opposite of 'assert' -- 'de-assert' OR 'deassert'?
liss_...@yahoo.com
Hi all,
Here comes the stupid question... ;)
What is the opposite of 'assert'? Is it 'de-assert' or 'deassert' (no
hyphen on that one)? I checked several sources online as well as my fat
dictionary and can't find out.
Thanks,
Melissa
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The opposite of "assert" would be "deny."
Gene Kim-Eng
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From: <liss_...@yahoo.com>
|
| Hi all,
| Here comes the stupid question... ;)
|
| What is the opposite of 'assert'? Is it 'de-assert' or 'deassert' (no
| hyphen on that one)? I checked several sources online as well as my fat
| dictionary and can't find out.
liss_...@yahoo.com
Ok, maybe I asked the wrong question. What I really want to know is which
one is correct - de-assert or deassert? Forgot about the opposite of
assert.
There are particular cases at our company where assert applies and we need
to de-assert/deassert.
Thanks again,
Melissa
| The opposite of "assert" would be "deny."
|
| Gene Kim-Eng
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liss_...@yahoo.com
Just fyi, it has to do with a specific hardware issue related to a chip.
Here's an example from a Motorola data sheet I found on the web:
Any General-Purpose I/O (GPIO) pin can be used to implement Chip Select
for the Serial EEPROM, as long as the pin is kept deasserted any time the
EEPROM is not in use.
It looks like if Motorola is using it without a hyphen, I guess I just
found my answer.
Melissa
| I am not sure the context in which you are using the term. However, I would
| suggest "deny," "refute," or even "disagree with." If you present the
| sentence, we would have a better idea of how you are trying to use the term.
|
| Time
James Jones
The word 'deny' comes to mind. But I suppose that what you want to
communicate is more relevant here than usual.
(1) 'The official asserted that no computer virus has been found yet.'
(2) 'The official denied that any computer virus has been found yet.'
(3) 'The official did not assert that any computer virus has been found
yet.'
(3) seems to be the simple opposite of (1). (2) seems to say more.
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Melissa Clark wrote:
What is the opposite of 'assert'? Is it 'de-assert' or 'deassert' (no
hyphen on that one)? I checked several sources . . .
Bob Colwell
Unless the context is in digital system design, where one speaks of
asserting a signal, and then later deasserting it. This particular
idiom is ubiquitous in the computer design field. -BobC
Gene Kim-Eng
Always helps to know the context. :)
Gene Kim-Eng
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From: <liss_...@yahoo.com>
| Just fyi, it has to do with a specific hardware issue related to a chip.
|
| Here's an example from a Motorola data sheet I found on the web:
| Any General-Purpose I/O (GPIO) pin can be used to implement Chip Select
| for the Serial EEPROM, as long as the pin is kept deasserted any time the
| EEPROM is not in use.
|
| It looks like if Motorola is using it without a hyphen, I guess I just
| found my answer.
Time Barrow
I am not sure the context in which you are using the term. However, I would
suggest "deny," "refute," or even "disagree with." If you present the
sentence, we would have a better idea of how you are trying to use the term.
Time
-----Original Message-----
From: liss_...@yahoo.com
Subject: opposite of 'assert' -- 'de-assert' OR 'deassert'?
Hi all,
Here comes the stupid question... ;)
What is the opposite of 'assert'? Is it 'de-assert' or 'deassert' (no
hyphen on that one)? I checked several sources online as well as my fat
dictionary and can't find out.
Thanks,
Melissa
tech...@theverbalist.com
| What is the opposite of 'assert'? Is it 'de-assert' or 'deassert'
|
Assert:
"She asserted her arrival at the grand ball."
Opposite of assert:
"Shortly thereafter, she stomped off in a grand huff 'cause everyone was
all "blah blah blah Cinderella" and not paying any attention to her."
Therefore, the antonym of assert is "stomped off in a huff".
Helpfully,
Mandy...yeah, but it's Friday in somebody's time zone...
Simon North
It isn't quite Friday here in the Netherlands yet, so I will risk a serious
response.
The oposite of 'assert' is 'deny'.
Simon.
Jones, Donna
Sounds like verbiage worthy of a trashy romance novel. I'm guessing you
haven't read many of those, T.? (Can't tell what your gender is from your
e-mail address and signature, so I can't make any assumptions.) :-)
Hmm. It may not be Friday everywhere yet, but as Alan Jackson and Jimmy
Buffett would say, it's 5 o'clock somewhere. Isn't that license enough to
get a little goofy? Time for a cold one!
| She "asserted" her arrival? A usage I am unfamiliar with.
| > Assert:
| > "She asserted her arrival at the grand ball."
| >
| > Opposite of assert:
| > "Shortly thereafter, she stomped off in a grand huff 'cause everyone was
| > all "blah blah blah Cinderella" and not paying any attention to her."
| >
| > Therefore, the antonym of assert is "stomped off in a huff".
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:27:06 -0600, tech...@theverbalist.com
<tech...@theverbalist.com> wrote:
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| > What is the opposite of 'assert'? Is it 'de-assert' or 'deassert'
| >
|
| Assert:
| "She asserted her arrival at the grand ball."
|
| Opposite of assert:
| "Shortly thereafter, she stomped off in a grand huff 'cause everyone was
| all "blah blah blah Cinderella" and not paying any attention to her."
|
| Therefore, the antonym of assert is "stomped off in a huff".
|
| Helpfully,
| Mandy...yeah, but it's Friday in somebody's time zone...
|
|
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T.W. Smith
She "asserted" her arrival? A usage I am unfamiliar with.
Although, I did chuckle. Grand huff. Got it. <g>
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:27:06 -0600, tech...@theverbalist.com
<tech...@theverbalist.com> wrote:
|
| > What is the opposite of 'assert'? Is it 'de-assert' or 'deassert'
| >
|
| Assert:
| "She asserted her arrival at the grand ball."
|
| Opposite of assert:
| "Shortly thereafter, she stomped off in a grand huff 'cause everyone was
| all "blah blah blah Cinderella" and not paying any attention to her."
|
| Therefore, the antonym of assert is "stomped off in a huff".
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tech...@theverbalist.com
| She "asserted" her arrival? A usage I am unfamiliar with.
|
|From M-W.com: 1 to state firmly, positively, or assuredly "he continued to
assert his innocence"
...'though you can no longer assert your innocence as to that arcane, and
possibly spurious, usage ;)
Sabahat Ashraf
I have had to deal with that recently. I am part of a semi-mature
fabless semiconductor start-up--meaning I document microchips and
related software and I work almost alone.
In the technical sense, I have chosen to try and enforce "de-assert"
as the standard, partly because I want to stress that a signal that
was being asserted up to that point is changing state--as opposed to
just going to a certain state.
In any other context, I would not accept "deassert" as a real word. [Yet.:D]
Though something like "when you the Reset pin is set, the Signal pin
stomps off in a huff" is definitely something I might try in a
document some time.
S
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:26:48 -0600, liss_...@yahoo.com
<liss_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
|
| Just fyi, it has to do with a specific hardware issue related to a chip.
|
| Here's an example from a Motorola data sheet I found on the web:
| Any General-Purpose I/O (GPIO) pin can be used to implement Chip Select
| for the Serial EEPROM, as long as the pin is kept deasserted any time the
| EEPROM is not in use.
|
| It looks like if Motorola is using it without a hyphen, I guess I just
| found my answer.
|
| Melissa
|
| > I am not sure the context in which you are using the term. However, I would
| > suggest "deny," "refute," or even "disagree with." If you present the
| > sentence, we would have a better idea of how you are trying to use the term.
| >
| > Time
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| What is the opposite of 'assert'? Is it 'de-assert' or 'deassert'
|
Assert:
"She asserted her arrival at the grand ball."
Opposite of assert:
"Shortly thereafter, she stomped off in a grand huff 'cause everyone was
all "blah blah blah Cinderella" and not paying any attention to her."
Therefore, the antonym of assert is "stomped off in a huff".
Helpfully,
Mandy...yeah, but it's Friday in somebody's time zone...
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| > > Assert:
| > > "She asserted her arrival at the grand
| ball."
But I was denied entry :-(
So she asserted her exit, stomping off in a huff.
Quite the opposite!
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In the requirement specs and detailed design documents
I use to derive our customer technical manuals, I have
run across the term "large iron mallet" regarding a
very strong reset action upon a chip... which is quite
de-assertive... or deassertive...
In these matters (such as buses vs. busses, firmware
vs. FPGA code) I hasten to www.googlewar.com to see
what the ignor... internet masses have to say.
The results for the current debate are:
"de-assert" 3,040 hits
"deassert" 5,480 hits
"Deassert" wins.
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