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Vernon Erle Ikeda

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Feb 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/11/96
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On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, Kenneth Skolyan wrote:

> Does anyone know if Alco RS-1 road switchers (1000 h.p.) were ever set up
> to run multiple unit with other RS-1's or even other power. What roads,
> if any , did?
> thanks

The only problem that RS-1's might have in mu'ing with other
pwer is that most (if not all) RS-1's used the 14EL brake system. Also
it was prior to the days of "universal" mu control (i.e every locomotive
builder had their own mu setup/jumper arrangement). Someone else can
expand on it and if not, I'll do something if I can find the time next
week.

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Kenneth Skolyan

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Feb 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/11/96
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Does anyone know if Alco RS-1 road switchers (1000 h.p.) were ever set up
to run multiple unit with other RS-1's or even other power. What roads,
if any , did?
thanks

Larry Russell

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Feb 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/11/96
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>Does anyone know if Alco RS-1 road switchers (1000 h.p.) were ever set up
>to run multiple unit with other RS-1's or even other power. What roads,
>if any , did?
>thanks

Many RS-1's were set up for mu. NdeM, Spokane International (UP) are 2 that
come to mind. The SI ran them as 4 units from Spokane to Kingsgate
regularly.

Larry Russell, Associater Editor, Extra 2200 South "The Locomotive Newsmagazine"

Richard D. Orr

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Feb 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/11/96
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The following PRR RS-1s were MUed.

5619-5640 PRR class AS10am
8485-8486 PRR class AS10ams

R. Orr
suvc...@aol.com

JOHN D KIRK

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Feb 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/11/96
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(Sorry, system lost original question..)

Frisco had five ex-AT&N RS-1s that had m.u. connections, but only on
the short hood end, and the units were set up for long-hood forward
operation. If I recall correctly, Frisco mainly used them in yard
switching service, as the maximum number of units that could be m.u.ed
was two, because of the single end m.u. connections.........

John Kirk
ki...@okstate.edu

Keith Ranker

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Feb 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/11/96
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New York, Susquehanna, and Western RS1s ran in MU all the time.


Keith

CWM

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Feb 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/12/96
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On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, Kenneth Skolyan wrote:

> Does anyone know if Alco RS-1 road switchers (1000 h.p.) were ever set up
> to run multiple unit with other RS-1's or even other power. What roads,
> if any , did?
> thanks

I think most of them were able to M/U with other units. I know the
Alaska RR, GMO and CNW units could...as could the U.S. Army RS1/RSD1s.

William Gripp (908) 704-4256

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Feb 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/12/96
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>Does anyone know if Alco RS-1 road switchers (1000 h.p.) were ever set up
>to run multiple unit with other RS-1's or even other power. What roads,
>if any , did?

MU was an option on the RS-1. CNJ and NYS&W RS-1's were MU equipped.
My understanding is that the MU system on the RS-1 was not generally
compatable with other units. It may have possibly worked with Alco
S1/S2/S3/S4 switchers, but not GP-7's, RS-3's, etc.

blac...@nji.com

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Feb 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/14/96
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Keith Ranker wrote:
> New York, Susquehanna, and Western RS1s ran in MU all the time.

The Susquehanna had two RS-1's without MU. They were the first ones
purchased in 1941, and sent to Iran in WW2. The Suskie replaced them in
1943. They were numbered 232 and 233(odd numbered).

Later purchaces of RS-1's were MU equipped, and were therefore
assigned even numbers, which originated the RR's tradition that's kept
to this day.

Bob in Kinnelon, NJ, which is trackside to the Susquehana.

William Gripp (908) 704-4256

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Feb 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/14/96
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>> New York, Susquehanna, and Western RS1s ran in MU all the time.

In the 40s and 50s, it was common for the NYSW to operate freights
with 5 or 6 RS1s in MU.

> The Susquehanna had two RS-1's without MU. They were the first ones
>purchased in 1941, and sent to Iran in WW2. The Suskie replaced them in
>1943. They were numbered 232 and 233(odd numbered).

231. I have shots of this unit I took in 1979 and 1980.

> Later purchaces of RS-1's were MU equipped, and were therefore
>assigned even numbers, which originated the RR's tradition that's kept
>to this day.

230-256 even. I'm not 100% sure, but DO may have briefly had some RS3s
painted NYSW which had MU and ODD numbers.

Gary Kazin (PBMA)

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Feb 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/15/96
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The non-mu RS-1's on the NYSW were _231_ and 233, odd numbered.
232 is even and was MU equipped.

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