The BEST Smartmailer
Daniel Tran
>Objective: Novell / Windows NT LAN to Internet connectivity, where users
>have full and/or email-only access to the Internet.
>Option 1: Service provider provides DNS, POP, SMTP
>Option 2: Local network box provides DNS, SMTP (Can NT do this well?)
I Don't think NT can do this
>We would prefer to use a DOS or Windows NT box for the smart mailer, even
>though having a UNIX box on the LAN is probably the best choice, but most
>Novell sites that I support don't have the in-house support staff to handle
>UNIX. Maybe Linux is a viable option. Other suggestions?
I don't think NT can run "sendmail" and "DNS"
Linux is great - some Unix experience is good - however it's quite easy to set
up sendmail and DNS. O' Reilly has good books on the subject.
Daniel Tran - dt...@emelnitz.ucla.edu
Steve Louis
to connect their Novell 3/4.x networks to the Internet. From reading the
postings in this group for awhile, I've come to recognize the expertise
available. If you have a few minutes, please let me know what you think is
the best way to connect, considering the many options that are available.
Objective: Novell / Windows NT LAN to Internet connectivity, where users
have full and/or email-only access to the Internet.
Option 1: Service provider provides DNS, POP, SMTP
Option 2: Local network box provides DNS, SMTP (Can NT do this well?)
Option 3: Email services ONLY
Option 4: Full Internet services including email.
[NOTE] All sites will use Pegasus mail and/or Mercury for transport (good
job, David) except those that are "locked into" inferior products. Some
sites will use a dialup SLIP/PPP, others will have a high speed connection.
We would prefer to use a DOS or Windows NT box for the smart mailer, even
though having a UNIX box on the LAN is probably the best choice, but most
Novell sites that I support don't have the in-house support staff to handle
UNIX. Maybe Linux is a viable option. Other suggestions?
It would be preferable to use Winsock at the workstations instead of having
to load an IP protocol stack.
I've read about various options, UGATE (with MHS), KA9Q, Waffle, but am not
sure what the advantages/disadvantages are. Anybody out there have a nice
Windows NT solution? Anybody use the new Novell NOV*IX server based LAN to
Internet product?
Thanks -Steve Louis- CNE
Lloyd Brodsky
>the best way to connect, considering the many options that are available.
>Objective: Novell / Windows NT LAN to Internet connectivity, where users
>have full and/or email-only access to the Internet.
>Option 1: Service provider provides DNS, POP, SMTP
>Option 2: Local network box provides DNS, SMTP (Can NT do this well?)
>Option 3: Email services ONLY
>Option 4: Full Internet services including email.
This question isn't answerable in a meaningful way without talking about what
you are trying to accomplish and budget. Full internet services including
email dominates email services only -- but it costs more
>We would prefer to use a DOS or Windows NT box for the smart mailer, even
I'm not sure what you mean by smart mailer in this context. UUCP connections
are quite inexpensive and can effectively route mail within the LAN, but it
relies on an external smarthost for DNS service for outbound messages.
>though having a UNIX box on the LAN is probably the best choice, but most
>Novell sites that I support don't have the in-house support staff to handle
>UNIX. Maybe Linux is a viable option. Other suggestions?
If you don't see UNIX as a viable choice, you certainly don't want LINUX.
>It would be preferable to use Winsock at the workstations instead of having
>to load an IP protocol stack.
Winsock won't operate without an IP protocol stack. Winsock simply provides a
common API to Internet applications -- it's a shim between the application and
the protocol stack.
>I've read about various options, UGATE (with MHS), KA9Q, Waffle, but am not
>sure what the advantages/disadvantages are. Anybody out there have a nice
>Windows NT solution?
Windows NT has reasonably complete Internet support built into it. Tell me
what you're trying to accomplish (ie, what Internet applications do you want
to run and for how many people and on what budget) and I'm sure the people in
this group could give you a better answer.
> Anybody use the new Novell NOV*IX server based LAN to
>Internet product?
Very nice product. Not cheap.
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Joshua M.K. Masur
> >Internet product?
I was reading a brief bit about NOV*IX (specifically, it's getting
bundled with NW41 by several distributors, or maybe the big red N
itself), but I have yet to understand what services it provides.
Anyone care to enlighten me?
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Lloyd Brodsky
>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:50:29 +0500
>From: "Joshua M.K. Masur" <jm...@ECHONYC.COM>
>Subject: Re: The BEST Smartmailer
>> > Anybody use the new Novell NOV*IX server based LAN to
>> >Internet product?
>I was reading a brief bit about NOV*IX (specifically, it's getting
>bundled with NW41 by several distributors, or maybe the big red N
>itself), but I have yet to understand what services it provides.
>Anyone care to enlighten me?
Essentially it translates IP to IPX packets at the server (or encapsulates
them so that you don't have to mess with multiple protocols or stacks at the
clients) and enables server administration of addresses, security, etc. Very
nice product, costs about $250 per station. Aimed at shops that are committed
to Novell, that need some Internet, but don't want to sweat the details and
don't mind some of the processing inefficiencies of the Nvix approach.