Canon and Nikon adds
Sebastien Rochon
Howard M. Paul
For you PJs unfamiliar, its called "stock photographs."
At 01:37 AM 1/15/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Did anyone ever notice the Canon add usually at the back of a magazine, =
>the one with someone from a tribe with is face all paint in yellow and =
>red???? it's the one promoting the EOS system. Well on the back cover of =
>another magazine there is another add, this one from Nikon with another =
>guy from the exact same tribe wearing the same colors and the exact same =
>design in his face. This add is promoting the Nikon F70. I almost =
>certain that those two picture are from the same photog is that =
>possible???
>If so, how could one would promote Nikon while the other one goes for =
>Canon??? Is it common practice in advertising???
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Steven Frischling
Chances are a Canon advertising person & a Nikon advertising person
shopped at the same stock photography agency. For about 8 monthsin
the 90s the Bronica advertisments were shot with Hassy cameras (you
could tell because Hassy cameras leave a notch in the film, and ONLY
Hassy bodies do this)
It is a mistake I am sure. The Tamron advertiiment for the
AF200-400f5.6 was shot by Art Wolfe with a Nikkor 200-400f4 AI-S for the
wolf shot and the moon was shot with a Nikkor 500f4 AI-S-P and digitally
sandwiched by Art Wolfe on a Mac.........I know this because A: I
worked as a tech geek for Tamron B: Art Wolfe showed the imaged and
how it was made on a nature photography TV program.
I am sure someone at some company was fired for the oopsie
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Sue Jarrett
That is surprising, because usually somewhere in a corner of the camera ad
is a little box saying camera and lens used. I wouldn't think either Canon
or Nikon would hype their cameras with a stock photo. The whole idea is
look what YOU can take WITH this brand. Besides, sharp-eyed viewers like
Sebastian would catch 'em! Unless, Howard, you sold the stock photo in
question? Huh, huh, huh? Fess up!
I want to know if the "Now it's Canon's Turn" ad showing the row of PJ's
shooting at some major event w/ long glass was taken w/ a Canon, :-)
Sue
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> From: Howard M. Paul <hmp...@ECENTRAL.COM>
> To: NPP...@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU
> Subject: Re: Canon and Nikon adds
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 1998 2:18 AM
toni hopper
Yes, I am familiar with this ad.
It is a shame Nikon couldn't be more creative!
Probably using a stock agency. Such an ad shows that the department
responsible is not keeping up on the competition.
Canon has used this ad for some time now.
Toni
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From: Sebastien Rochon <sr...@MTA.CA>
To: NPP...@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU
Subject: Canon and Nikon adds
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 11:37 PM
Did anyone ever notice the Canon add usually at the back of a magazine, the
one with someone from a tribe with is face all paint in yellow and red????
it's the one promoting the EOS system. Well on the back cover of another
magazine there is another add, this one from Nikon with another guy from
the exact same tribe wearing the same colors and the exact same design in
his face. This add is promoting the Nikon F70. I almost certain that those
two picture are from the same photog is that possible???
If so, how could one would promote Nikon while the other one goes for
Canon??? Is it common practice in advertising???
I know that some time ( well most of the time) the picture that is
promoting a camera (lets say a Nikon F 50) was not taken with this
camera... But those two adds... it's very confusing, can anyone have a look
on this??
Regards,
Sibastien Rochon
sr...@mta.ca
Zuzana
About these ads that depict other cultures and use their native dress
and exotic appearance, I think this is misappropriating a culture for
advertising use. The same is done using religion to sell the computer
game "Genesis".
In advertising, nothing seems to be sacred. Advertisers use/abuse what
is deepest in our cultures to get us to buy. There should be some limit,
i.e. something sacred.
Zuzana Jackevicius
photojournalist
Jacksonville Journal Courier
217-245-6121
Howard M. Paul
At 08:31 AM 1/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>In advertising, nothing seems to be sacred. Advertisers use/abuse what
>is deepest in our cultures to get us to buy. There should be some limit,
>i.e. something sacred.
So, these limits would be created by....?
And, they would be enforced by....?
Then, violators would be punished by...?
Billy Suratt
At 08:31 AM 1/16/98 -0500, Zuzana wrote:
>About these ads that depict other cultures and use their native dress
>and exotic appearance, I think this is misappropriating a culture for
>advertising use. The same is done using religion to sell the computer
>game "Genesis".
It seems to me there's a lot of difference between using a religion to sell
a game (which I've never heard of) and using a colorful model to sell a
camera lens. I do wonder, though: did the stock agency (seems like Tony
Stone Images) have a signed model release from the tribesman. Did they
even need one since the photo was used to illustrate the technical quality
of the lens and not to imply that EOS is the official camera system of the
tribe?
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