pronunciation guides for composers
Laura Dankner
every possible source for the answer to this question - just hoping
someone from the list would have the magic words of wisdom off the tops
of their head (or from wherever!) Is there a tool in which
pronunciations for composer's names are given? A student came in today
and wanted to know the correct pronunciation of the last name of
composer Charles Koechlin. He was Alsatian, by the way. I never did
come up with a real difinitive answer, which leads me to the actual
question: is there a guide to pronunciation of composers like Koechlin?
In other words, not exactly house-hold name type composers. It would be
quite useful, if it doesn't exist (anyone out there in need of a
project???)
Oh - and if you know the answer about how his name should be pronounced,
do let me know that as well! (I'll try MLA-L first, then IAML-L) for
answer. First one to answer gets a tacky New Orleans alligator chotchka
if they come to visit down here. Best,
LAURA DANKNER (aka Swamp Woman) Associate Professor/Music Librarian
Loyola University Music Library
Box 8, 6363 St. Charles Avenue
New Orleans, LA 70118
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James Brown
Dorothy Pearson@HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU.
there is a section devoted to pronunciation of names and titles.
It gives KUK-LEN as the proper pronunciation for Koechlin. By the way,
this true for the 7th edition - 1956. An oldie, but goodie!!!!!!!
Dorothy
John S. Conyers
informally published pronunciation guides at such places.
John Conyers, Special Services Librarian
Univ. of Texas at San Antonio
San Antonio, TX 78249-0671
Voice: 210-691-4580 Fax: 210-691-4571
e-mail: jcon...@lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu
Ned Quist
Row, 1987) gives pronunciation for the garden variety composers, but alas
no Koechlin. I do have it on Tom Grubb's authority that it should be
pronounced KESH-'LAH(N) (sorry, I don't know IPA).
Cheers,
Ned Quist
qu...@peabody.jhu.edu
Claude Beaudry
|
| Greetings from the swamps. I admit in advance that I
| have NOT checked
| every possible source for the answer to this question
| - just hoping
| someone from the list would have the magic words of
| wisdom off the tops
| of their head (or from wherever!) Is there a tool in
| which
| pronunciations for composer's names are given? A
| student came in today
Dear Laura,
As a francophone, I know how to pronounce Charles Koechlin but I
am unable to translate the sounds of that name with words because
I believe they do not exist in English. May I suggest you to
consult Pierre Fouche: Traite de prononciation francaise (Paris:
Klincksieck, 1959) or Leon Warnant: Dictionnaire de la
prononciation francaise (Gembloux: Duculot, 1964)
Meilleures salutations
Claude Beaudry
Bibliotheque
Universite Laval
Quebec
Canada
James Smith
phonetic spellings for all foreign names, however, the later first
supplement (1981) is more selective and has only a few names spelled
phonetically. I'm afraid I don't find Charles Koechlin in either
edition.
Karl Van Ausdal
glossary that includes composers, terms, and titles.
For handy and cheap, if you like used bookstores, I would also suggest
Rupert Hughes MUSIC LOVERS' ENCYCLOPEDIA. The editions that came out in the
'50's, when my parents gave me mine, were edited by Deems Taylor, and
included pronunciations for a lot more composers than the Oxford Companion
does, and also for every musical term that it defined. However, it does
seem better for German pronunciations than for French.
Since graphic representations of spoken sounds make most sense when one has
heard the language, may I suggest that Laura's patron rent some videos with
Peter Sellers as Inspector Clousseau, to get some idea of how to deal with
Koechlin.
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Karl Van Ausdal k...@conrad.appstate.edu
Music Library voice (704) 262-2389
Appalachian State University fax (704) 265-8642
Boone, NC 28608
Anders Lonn
> Is there a tool in which
> pronunciations for composer's names are given? A student came in today
> and wanted to know the correct pronunciation of the last name of
> composer Charles Koechlin. He was Alsatian, by the way. I never did
> come up with a real difinitive answer, which leads me to the actual
> question: is there a guide to pronunciation of composers like Koechlin?
> In other words, not exactly house-hold name type composers. It would be
> quite useful, if it doesn't exist (anyone out there in need of a
> project???)
>
Sohlmans musiklexikon, 2nd ed., gives the pronunciation (in the
international phonetic alphabet) of quite a few composers' names that are
not part of Swedish households.
The dictionary has been out of print for some time, and you probably
wouldn't buy it *just* for this purpose anyway, but those who do
happen to have it may not have thought of this useful aspect of it.
The ch in Koechlin is "hard" (k), oe is pronunced as in oeuvre, and "i" is
an open nasal i as in "fin". That's the best I can do given the limitations
of ASCII.
Anders L"onn
Musikaliska akademiens bibliotek
Stockholm
FITZG...@wmich.edu
Encyclopedia of Composers (Doubleday, 1985). He includes many
less-than-well-known composers, including Koechlin (Kesh'-lan, sort of).
Greg Fitzgerald
Western Michigan University
fitzg...@wmich.edu
Allie D. Goudy
Encyclopedia of Music, by Westrup andHarrison. Koechlin is in there. Last
names only, though.
Allie Goudy
mf...@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Paula
believed to know) as if it were French. His was mostly active in French
circles, if that counts. I am told that the best guide to the
pronounciation of composers' names is one created for the BBC. I've
never seen it, and don't know to what extent it's available. OK; that's
what's off the top of my head. Anybody elsewanto to talk about this? PE