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Skat

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Feb 9, 1995, 10:26:46 AM2/9/95
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I am sure that I am not alone in being a US Gov't employee who uses this
list, and given the nature of this list, this fact could not have
conceiveably escaped the senders of this ad. Perhaps we should contact
Fraud, Waste, and Abuse to see if this constitutes an illegal use of
Federal property. It is the equivalent of cold calling a Federal
employee on a Gov't owned phone.

Brad

Randolph Fritz

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Feb 9, 1995, 5:24:42 PM2/9/95
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I don't think so, more's the pity. The message didn't come from within the
gov't; it's more like a cold-call direct to your office. Unfortunately,
it's out of Canter & Siegel's site (they're the lawyers who invented spam
advertising) so complaints to the system administration will be worse than
useless. I've written the list owners suggesting they block postings from
that site, but I'm not sure that's even possible.

R.

Skat

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Feb 9, 1995, 6:03:22 PM2/9/95
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> >conceiveably escaped the senders of this ad. Perhaps we should contact
> >Fraud, Waste, and Abuse to see if this constitutes an illegal use of
> >Federal property. It is the equivalent of cold calling a Federal
> >employee on a Gov't owned phone.
> >
>
> I don't think so, more's the pity. The message didn't come from within the
> gov't; it's more like a cold-call direct to your office. Unfortunately,

Exactly!!! Deliberately making a call of such type to a Federal office
would probably be illegal. I don't know, but I do intend to contact our
ADP people for a ruling. Ok, so I am grasping, but this must stop.
Anyone feel like mailing they a postscript file that won't print with
something at the top saying that since they have taken an interest in
graphics, perhaps they could help find what is wrong with this. Enough
people do that, and maybe their system admin will care what they do.

Brad

Keith Brownmiller

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Feb 9, 1995, 11:13:57 PM2/9/95
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Greetings,

I am not pleased that I have been subject to your advertisement via several
technically based lists that I subscribe to. I am sure that your intention
were of the utmost ethical behaviour on the internet, but I am not sure
that your sending of messages to technical lists was in good taste and
keeping with the spirit of the internet. I know that from this message you
will have my address, but rest assured if I receive any email from your
organization in the future either direct or via any of the technical lists
of which I subscribe, I will be forced to vent my objection about your
activity on the internet to other controlling sources. This is not to say
that your need to advertise your services is not important to the success
of your organization, but the sources that you have chosen to advertise on
can do your organization more harm than good. Remember that well chosen
advertising can be more constructive that the method on which you have
embarked on.

Remember that the Internet goes everywhere and if I receive another email
about your services I will be forced to contact certain organizations about
your suspected ethical activity. Several of my technical lists have been
disrupted by your message rather than continuing to focus on our technical
areas of interest.

Sincerely,

On Thu, 9 Feb 1995 04:37:56 -0500,
Consumer Credit Advocates <cc...@CYBER.SELL.COM> wrote:

>Consumer Credit Advocates, PC
>11 Pennsylvania Plaza, Suite 2101
>New York, NY 10001
>(212) 629-5261 (telephone) (212) 629-4762 (fax)
>E-MAIL: cc...@cyber.sell.com
>
>Our LAW FIRM offers direct guaranteed effective credit
>restoration services by experienced attorneys. THIS IS
>NOT A DO-IT-YOURSELF KIT.
>
>What can we do?
>
>We have successfully facilitated the removal of Late
>Payments, Charge-offs, Foreclosures, Repossessions,
>Collection Accounts, Loan Defaults, Tax Liens, Judgments
>and Bankruptcies from our clients' credit reports. WE
>GUARANTEE THAT YOUR CREDIT CAN BE RESTORED!!!
>
>Who needs our services?
>
>Anyone who has experienced the inconvenience and
>embarrassment of being turned down for a credit card, a
>lease or a purchase of an automobile.
>
>Anyone who is unable to buy the house of their dreams
>due to denial of a mortgage application or who has to
>pay thousands of dollars more in mortgage interest than
>someone with good credit.
>
>Anyone who has been turned down for a job or promotion
>due to derogatory credit items on a credit report.
>
>Anyone in business who has lost a deal because a person
>or firm wanted to see his/her credit report before
>doing business.
>
>Anyone who has been unable to establish credit.
>
>
>THE FOUR GREAT MYTHS OF CREDIT:
>
>Myth #1: It is illegal or immoral to have your credit
>report cleared.
>
> Fact: It is not illegal nor immoral. In fact,
> that is what the Fair Credit Reporting Act is all
> about. The act was enacted by Congress in 1971.
> One of its purposes as to give consumers the
> protection of the law and to help guard against
> any unwarranted invasion of a consumer's right to
> privacy.
>
>Myth #2: The information on a credit report cannot be
>changed.
>
> Fact: Actually, the opposite is true under the
> Fair Credit Reporting Act. Federal and State laws
> require that items be removed if they are not 100%
> accurate or cannot be verified in a timely
> manner.
>
>Myth #3: It is impossible to get a bankruptcy off a
>credit report.
>
> Fact: Bankruptcies can come off credit reports
> like any other derogatory item. The nature of the
> derogatory item has nothing to do with its removal
> under the Fair Credit Reporting Act.
>
>Myth #4: Credit Reporting Agencies are empowered with
>some kind of governmental authority.
>
> Fact: Absolutely Not!! They are simply large
> corporations whose primary goal is to make a
> profit like any other business.
>
>
>If you have ever applied for or received credit, a file
>exists in one or more of the credit bureaus. These
>companies collect, store and distribute as much credit
>information as they can find, retaining negative
>information on a credit report for 7 to 10 years. This
>information is evaluated by potential creditors to
>determine your credit worthiness.
>
>Credit reporting agencies are in business to protect
>the interests of the creditors. the LAW FIRM's goal is
>to help and protect the individual consumer from
>inaccurate credit reporting.
>
>The president of our LAW FIRM has been practicing
>consumer law since 1984. The staff of our firm has
>successfully processed, disputed and challenged
>thousands of client credit reports.
>
>Our legal fee is based o the number of negative items
>that appear on a client's credit reports, issued b the
>three national credit bureaus. Our retainer agreement
>offers a MONEY BACK GUARANTEE stating that if any
>negative item is not deleted, upgraded or corrected
>from a client's credit file, it will give the client a
>full refund for that item or continue to process the
>client's file at no additional fee until that item is
>corrected, upgraded or deleted. THE ONLY THING YOU
>HAVE TO LOSE IS YOUR BAD CREDIT!!
>
>PLEASE CONTACT THE LAW FIRM AND LEAVE YOUR FULL NAME,
>MAILING ADDRESS AND TELEPHONE NUMBER SO WE MAY FORWARD
>FURTHER INFORMATION AND INSTRUCTIONS TO YOU ABOUT OUR
>SERVICE.
>
>Consumer Credit Advocates, PC
>11 Pennsylvania Plaza, Suite 2101
>New York, NY 10001
>(212) 629-5261 (telephone) (212) 629-4762 (fax)
>E-MAIL: cc...@cyber.sell.com
>
>

_____________________________________________________________________
Keith Brownmiller
Adj. Associate Professor
Chapman Unversity email: brow...@nexus.chapman.edu
FAX: (619)367-1653 Phone: (619)367-5123
____________________________________________________________________

Spencer....@med.umich.edu

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Feb 10, 1995, 10:26:58 AM2/10/95
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My response to spamming is to send back a polite note, saying that I
will not now, nor will I ever, patronize the firm in question. I
figure that if enough people do that, then they'll realize that
spamming is counter-productive.
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