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Dyck, Lionel B. , TRA
Sep 1, 2017, 2:14:54 PM9/1/17
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Any thoughts on how to get WinSCP or FileZilla to access z/OS datasets when connected?
All I am able to get is access to the OMVS side of the system.
thx
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All I am able to get is access to the OMVS side of the system.
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John McKown
Sep 1, 2017, 2:32:41 PM9/1/17
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On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) <Lione...@va.gov>
wrote:
> Any thoughts on how to get WinSCP or FileZilla to access z/OS datasets
> when connected?
>
IBM's ssh/scp cannot access z/OS non-UNIX data sets. Dovetailed
Technologies' can.
http://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html
> All I am able to get is access to the OMVS side of the system.
>
> thx
>
>
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> Any thoughts on how to get WinSCP or FileZilla to access z/OS datasets
> when connected?
>
Technologies' can.
http://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html
> All I am able to get is access to the OMVS side of the system.
>
> thx
>
>
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Elardus Engelbrecht
Sep 1, 2017, 3:07:39 PM9/1/17
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Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote:
>Any thoughts on how to get WinSCP or FileZilla to access z/OS datasets when connected?
>Any thoughts on how to get WinSCP or FileZilla to access z/OS datasets when connected?
>All I am able to get is access to the OMVS side of the system.
You can use WinSCP to access z/OS datasets. I will post on Monday a sample batch job (in windoze) how to do that.
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
Roger Bolan
Sep 1, 2017, 3:42:13 PM9/1/17
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I use Filezilla to connect to my z/OS systems both for MVS datasets and
OMVS. I have the same IP address for both site definitions. As far as I
can tell the only difference is on the Advanced Tab in the Site Manager
where the OMVS site definition has a default remote directory of /u/bolan
defined, and the MVS site definition has a blank default remote directory.
--Roger
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) <Lione...@va.gov>
wrote:
OMVS. I have the same IP address for both site definitions. As far as I
can tell the only difference is on the Advanced Tab in the Site Manager
where the OMVS site definition has a default remote directory of /u/bolan
defined, and the MVS site definition has a blank default remote directory.
--Roger
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) <Lione...@va.gov>
wrote:
Allan Staller
Sep 1, 2017, 4:13:57 PM9/1/17
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Coz:SFTP
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Paul Gilmartin
Sep 1, 2017, 5:42:49 PM9/1/17
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On Fri, 1 Sep 2017 13:42:00 -0600, Roger Bolan wrote:
>I use Filezilla to connect to my z/OS systems both for MVS datasets and
>OMVS. I have the same IP address for both site definitions. As far as I
>can tell the only difference is on the Advanced Tab in the Site Manager
>where the OMVS site definition has a default remote directory of /u/bolan
>defined, and the MVS site definition has a blank default remote directory.
>
Does FileZilla support both FTP and sftp? Is it possible, then, that your
>I use Filezilla to connect to my z/OS systems both for MVS datasets and
>OMVS. I have the same IP address for both site definitions. As far as I
>can tell the only difference is on the Advanced Tab in the Site Manager
>where the OMVS site definition has a default remote directory of /u/bolan
>defined, and the MVS site definition has a blank default remote directory.
>
success was with Classic FTP and the OP's failure was with sftp?
Does configuring the Co:z server for sftp require admin privilege/
>On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote:
>
>> Any thoughts on how to get WinSCP or FileZilla to access z/OS datasets
>> when connected?
>>
>> All I am able to get is access to the OMVS side of the system.
>>
-- gil
Jerry Whitteridge
Sep 1, 2017, 5:44:11 PM9/1/17
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We use Filezilla and can access both Classic and OMVS equally - I'll need to dig a bit for Lionel to check the version and the configuration.
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Rob Schramm
Sep 1, 2017, 5:52:17 PM9/1/17
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Winscp is only really good for SFTP and Unix files. Filezilla, bluezone,
I(something or other), cyberduck
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Wayne Bickerdike
Sep 2, 2017, 5:01:06 PM9/2/17
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I use Filezilla.
Thought it was just wrap quotes around the dataset name for z/OS otherwise
it goes to a USS file.
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Wayne V. Bickerdike
Thought it was just wrap quotes around the dataset name for z/OS otherwise
it goes to a USS file.
Wayne V. Bickerdike
Paul Gilmartin
Sep 2, 2017, 8:16:47 PM9/2/17
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 07:00:47 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
>I use Filezilla.
>
>Thought it was just wrap quotes around the dataset name for z/OS otherwise
>it goes to a USS file.
>
FTP, SFTP, or FTPS? Filezilla gives you your choice.
>I use Filezilla.
>
>Thought it was just wrap quotes around the dataset name for z/OS otherwise
>it goes to a USS file.
>
(Which does the OP need?)
Roger Bolan
Sep 3, 2017, 11:13:01 AM9/3/17
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Not for me. The Remote Site says 'BOLAN.' for MVS, and /u/bolan for OMVS.
I have two different site definitions in the Filezilla site manager. I
tried swapping on the Remote Site screen and it gets errors if I try to use
an OMVS HFS directory on the site that uses 'BOLAN.' and vice versa. I am
not using SFTP just FTP and passive mode. I also do not use anonymous
logon but have to give a userid and password for both sides. When I do
this from outside my office there are some additional VPN and firewall
logins I need before I can use Filezilla for anything, but I imagine that
is not Lionel's problem because he said he could get to the OMVS side.
I have two different site definitions in the Filezilla site manager. I
tried swapping on the Remote Site screen and it gets errors if I try to use
an OMVS HFS directory on the site that uses 'BOLAN.' and vice versa. I am
not using SFTP just FTP and passive mode. I also do not use anonymous
logon but have to give a userid and password for both sides. When I do
this from outside my office there are some additional VPN and firewall
logins I need before I can use Filezilla for anything, but I imagine that
is not Lionel's problem because he said he could get to the OMVS side.
Elardus Engelbrecht
Sep 5, 2017, 4:52:51 AM9/5/17
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Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
>Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote:
>>Any thoughts on how to get WinSCP or FileZilla to access z/OS datasets when connected?
>>All I am able to get is access to the OMVS side of the system.
>Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote:
>>Any thoughts on how to get WinSCP or FileZilla to access z/OS datasets when connected?
>>All I am able to get is access to the OMVS side of the system.
>You can use WinSCP to access z/OS datasets. I will post on Monday a sample batch job (in windoze) how to do that.
No FileZilla, since I could not use automated transfers in one or other way.
As promised, here is a generated Windows WinSCP script, I use to access a PS or PO dataset's member:
For retrieving three members from two PDS datasets:
"C:\Program Files\WinSCP\WinSCP.com" ^
/ini=nul ^
/command ^
"open sftp://<id>:<psw>@<ip>/ -hostkey=""???""" ^
"lcd C:\<folder>" ^
"cd //HLQ1.<whatever>" ^
"get <membername1>" ^
"get <membername2>" ^
"cd //HLQ2.<whatever>" ^
"get <membername3>" ^
"exit"
It is a PITA, but it is working. Transfer OMVS files is a dream. No problemo there!
I still prefer the FTP process from Automation software on z/OS where you can do on large scale mulitple FTP transfers while renaming destination files using wildcards, timestamps, etc. like this:
put 'HLQ.%%YESTERDAY' OUTPUT-%%YESTERDAY.TXT
It is hard to do the same tricks from a windoze machine...
Grab whatever utility you can use and live with that... ;-D
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
Kirk Wolf
Sep 5, 2017, 11:00:42 AM9/5/17
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Elardus,
I'm reasonably certain from looking at your script that your z/OS server is
running Co:Z SFTP, which is why it works :-)
Also, you could use PuTTY PSFTP to do batch scripting as well (on Windows),
or OpenSSH sftp on z/OS.
Regards,
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
I'm reasonably certain from looking at your script that your z/OS server is
running Co:Z SFTP, which is why it works :-)
Also, you could use PuTTY PSFTP to do batch scripting as well (on Windows),
or OpenSSH sftp on z/OS.
Regards,
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
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