FILEAID
Mike Llewellyn
For a variety of reasons, I'm looking for an alternative to FILEAID for our
application programmers. The feature they're most interested in is the
mapping of records using COBOL layouts in Edit/Browse.
Does anyone know of a similar product that does this in the MVS/ESA ISPF 4.x
environment?
TIA,
Mike Llewellyn (usmy...@ibmmail.com)
Fred Meyer, Inc. Portland, OR
Jim Kyriakakis
SERENA International have a product called StarTools that will fit the bill.
Check out their web page at www.serena.com.
Jim K.
Ubiquity Pty Ltd
Level 1 24 Albert Road
South Melbourne Victoria Australia
Phone +61 3 9699 1300
Email: ji...@ubiquity.com.au
WEB Page www.ubiquity.com.au. Please have a look and pass
on any comments.
Steve Huitt
Mike Llewellyn wrote:
>
> For a variety of reasons, I'm looking for an alternative to FILEAID for our
> application programmers. The feature they're most interested in is the
> mapping of records using COBOL layouts in Edit/Browse.
>
> Does anyone know of a similar product that does this in the MVS/ESA ISPF 4.x
> environment?
>
optional charge feature called SuperEdit that provides copybook mapping
and selective edit. And besides that it's a must have product for all
the other things it can do.
Steve Huitt
Nordstom
Zoltan Forray
We looked at an alternative for FILEAID, called MAX from
MB Solutions, Inc.
1720 S. Bellaire Street
Suite 106
Denver, CO 80222-4302
Tel: 303-782-0178 also 1-800-779-1740
Fax: 303-782-4703
We were looking to replace FILEAID because their price jumped. However, someone
eventually came up with the money and we kept FILEAID.
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Date: 12/16/96 7:14 PM
For a variety of reasons, I'm looking for an alternative to FILEAID for our
application programmers. The feature they're most interested in is the
mapping of records using COBOL layouts in Edit/Browse.
Does anyone know of a similar product that does this in the MVS/ESA ISPF 4.x
environment?
TIA,
Jim Steelman
In article <IBM-MAIN%9612161...@UA1VM.UA.EDU>,
usmy...@IBMMAIL.COM says...
>
>For a variety of reasons, I'm looking for an alternative to FILEAID for our
>application programmers. The feature they're most interested in is the
>mapping of records using COBOL layouts in Edit/Browse.
>
>Does anyone know of a similar product that does this in the MVS/ESA ISPF 4.x
>environment?
>
>TIA,
> Mike Llewellyn (usmy...@ibmmail.com)
> Fred Meyer, Inc. Portland, OR
alternative to FILEAID. 800-457-3736
Gilbert Saint-flour
In <IBM-MAIN%9612161...@UA1VM.UA.EDU>, Mike Llewellyn <usmy...@IBMMAIL.COM> writes:
>For a variety of reasons, I'm looking for an alternative to FILEAID for our
>application programmers. The feature they're most interested in is the
>mapping of records using COBOL layouts in Edit/Browse.
>Does anyone know of a similar product that does this in the MVS/ESA
>ISPF 4.x environment?
Besides Serena's STARTOOL and MB/Solutions MAXVSAM, you may consider
McKinney's ISPF VSAM Utility and Insync Soft's Insync.
gd...@aol.com
I would not use anything other than the former PDSTOOLS, now called
STARTOOL. The support from Steve Smith and Bruce Leland is far superior
to any other vendor competing with this product. The latest STARTOOL has
added selective VSAM and a batch edit utility, and it is a LOT LESS
EXPENSIVE than FileAid. Give Serena a call.
Regards,
Thomas Conley, President
Pinnacle Consulting Group, Inc.
MBSI Inc
My name is Dan Beck. I'm with MB Solutions in Denver Colorado. We offer a
product called MAX that does more than F/AID (including COBOL copybook
mapping) at less than 1/4 the price.
For more information, call me at (800) 779-1740 or check out our web site
at max2000.com.
Dan Beck
Barry A. Goldstein
Mike Llewellyn wrote:
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> For a variety of reasons, I'm looking for an alternative to FILEAID for our
> application programmers. The feature they're most interested in is the
> mapping of records using COBOL layouts in Edit/Browse.
>
> Does anyone know of a similar product that does this in the MVS/ESA ISPF 4.x
> environment?
>
We used a product called DataXpert but I don't remember the name of the vendor.
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| Barry A. Goldstein | Union Electric - Saint Louis, Missouri |
| EDP Systems Analyst - Data Management | bgold...@ue.com |
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Sam Knutson
Barry A. Goldstein wrote:
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> Mike Llewellyn wrote:
> >
> > For a variety of reasons, I'm looking for an alternative to FILEAID for our
>
>
>
Data-Xpert was purchased along with DB2-Xpert, IMS-Xpert, etc. and is
now part of File-Aid. It was a nice product. FILEAID is also a nice
product and in the end Compuware provided a reasonable conversion from
Data-Xpert to a full File-Aid lisc.
Best Regards,
Sam Knutson
Murray Bob
"Barry A. Goldstein" <bgold...@ue.com> wrote:
We went through an extensive evaluation and trial of a variety of
products and went with Insync which met most of our needs.
They have been working on the rest of our requirements.
I caution you that some products do not handle large copybooks or
utilize tremendous amounts of cpu.
INSYNC was NOT one of these.
Murray
>Mike Llewellyn wrote:
>>
>> For a variety of reasons, I'm looking for an alternative to FILEAID for our
>> application programmers. The feature they're most interested in is the
>> mapping of records using COBOL layouts in Edit/Browse.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a similar product that does this in the MVS/ESA ISPF 4.x
>> environment?
>>
>> TIA,
>> Mike Llewellyn (usmy...@ibmmail.com)
>> Fred Meyer, Inc. Portland, OR
>We used a product called DataXpert but I don't remember the name of the vendor.
>
Rick Streebel
DataXpert was purchased by Compuware a few years ago. The features of it
and FileAid were then merged with release 8.0.
Rick
In article <32C9A7...@ue.com>, "Barry A. Goldstein"
<bgold...@ue.com> wrote:
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Rick Streebel rstr...@isub.edu
Kelly Bert Manning
We've moved from the the transitional version of the XA products to
the FileAid ones apart from IMS-Xpert/DC, which is still the
XA Systems version.
One glitch is that none of the DATA-Xpert Batch PDS utility
control cards are usable with FileAid. It may be possible to
achive the same result somehow, but the only documentation we got
was bookmanager format, which seems quite opaque and is of no use
for transit reading. There is no conversion utility that I can see, or
even an example of converting. XA Systems let us make as many photocopies
of their manuals as we needed. The manuals and examples seemed quite clear.
PDSFast is available on the same system, so I am using it for copying and
member selection instead of FileAid, and using FileAid just for changing
across PDS members(DB2 SSID , etc.) when I migrate.
I also found that one of the display formats disappeared(Unformatted?).
This let you view a single record across multiple lines, 70 bytes per
line, in hex or char mode.
There seem to be a lot of glitches with the Fileaid for DB2 product.
With DB2-Xpert I could do a change group and then reset my authorization
ID under option 0, wihtout leaving the dialog and losing temporary parms.
With FileAid you must use either the TSO ID or RACF Group that you originally
started with. This assumption of a constant connection has interesting
results when the connection dies for some reason(I think it drops
after doing Relationship Utility functions).
Fileaid for DB2 also seems inferior in the way it handles masks. I use a
43x80 host screen size. If you give FileAid for DB2 a mask you get a tiny
pop up select window(sometimes 10 lines, sometimes 8). Once you make a
selection and PF3 back you end up back at the panel where you specified
the mask, not at the list of objects. This makes it very time consuming to
work with lists of any size. It must be burning up a lot of DB2 resources
going back to the catalog repeatedly as well.
I've seen ISPF adjust pop sizes for different terminal sizes, so I don't
understand why FileAid for DB2 can't do it, if they insist on using pop
ups. It seems to me that pop ups are most appropriate where there is a
relatively small number of choices, rather than where there is a large
or open ended number.
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