DCS - What is it?
Eric Bielefeld
Eric Bielefeld
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Because of the hard channel boxes I am almost sure you could not share
tapes on DCS. The 709x had external channel controllers, the 704x did
not (if my miserable memory serves me right).
If you remember correctly, DCS was the spooler -
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IMHO you're right. OTH, AFAIK if you RTFM you'll be :)
(BTW, I didn't know GFS either)
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What is DCS stand for? I wish people would spell out terms such as DCS
when they use them. <snip>
Eric Bielefeld
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What is DCS stand for? I wish people would spell out terms such as DCS when
they use them. It doesn't take much extra, and it makes things a lot more
readable. It also generates extra posts, like my asking this question, and the
reply or replies. Another good example is GFS, in several recent posts -
Getmain Freemain Storage trace. I never heard that term either until someone
asked and explained it. There are so many acronyms, I don't think it is
possible for anyone to remember them all.
Eric Bielefeld
Sr. MVS Systems Programmer
P&H Mining Equipment
Milwaukee, WI
414-671-7849
eb...@hii.com
>>> B...@CPUPERFORM.COM 08/23/00 06:42PM >>>
Because of the hard channel boxes I am almost sure you could not share
tapes on DCS. The 709x had external channel controllers, the 704x did
not (if my miserable memory serves me right).
If you remember correctly, DCS was the spooler -
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Metz, Seymour
already familiar with the software in the 7090 era.
Meanwhile, I wish that people wouldn't use the wrong acronym, e.g., BAL,
UCB, and that IBM wouldn't recycle acronyms that have already been used,
e.g., CMS. :-(
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Bielefeld [SMTP:EB...@HII.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:24 AM
>
> What is DCS stand for? I wish people would spell out terms such as DCS
> when they use them.
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John Ford
Wanna see Virtual Storage Access Method instead of VSAM? International
Business Machine? These examples are (I hope) overkill, but... Where would
we draw the line? Personally, I'm too lazy to worry about it. I'd rather
have the occasional "what's this mean" post than go through the
mental/physical effort of writing out acronyms/abbreviations, and often a
simple expansion of an acronym doesn't help much.
Besides... then -I- would have to know what they mean when -I- use them!
(Does it matter if I know what JES stands for, as long as I know what it
does and how it works?)
You could always Email directly to the person who posted the message if you
don't want to clutter the list. Most of us are quite willing to share what
we know at any level.
-jcf [Jaded Conniving Fool]
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Bielefeld [mailto:EB...@HII.COM]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 8:24 AM
Subject: DCS - What is it?
What is DCS stand for? I wish people would spell out terms such as DCS when
they use them. It doesn't take much extra, and it makes things a lot more
readable. It also generates extra posts, like my asking this question, and
the reply or replies.
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Eric Bielefeld
I think there are a lot of basic MVS acronyms that almost everyone knows, like VSAM, JES, VTAM, etc. If you are on the list and you don't know them, you probably should look for them elsewhere. But there are a lot of acronyms that are not obvious. One that comes to mind is PFCSK - Pimply Faced Computer Science Kids. That seems to pop up every 2 or 3 months, and someone usually asks what it is. I think I asked over a year ago and found out.
I think your comment about being too lazy to type the whole thing is appropriate. Now that someone has posted where we can look up all these terms, I find I'm too lazy to go there to look! Hopefully this won't start another long discussion again.
Eric Bielefeld
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GerardS
| John,
|
| I think there are a lot of basic MVS acronyms that almost everyone knows,
like VSAM, JES, VTAM, etc.
_____________________________________
Actually, ..... it's more like nobody knows ....
When VS/1, VS/2, VSAM, VS, VM and others were introduced, the "V"s all meant
the same
thing: "Virtual" ..... virtual this, virtual that, yadda, yadda, yadda.
But one wasn't. However, EVERYONE was calling it Virtual Telecommunications
Access
Method, IBM had to change it to .... what everyone else was calling it.
Originally, it was: "Vortex Telecommunications Access Method".
Anyway, that's the story I heard from an IBMer a way way long time back.
Gerard S.
Howard Brazee
>
> Besides... then -I- would have to know what they mean when -I- use them!
> (Does it matter if I know what JES stands for, as long as I know what it
> does and how it works?)
The real silly one was when I read an IBM manual in the early 1980's to
discover that spool is really an acronym for a process which IBM has
which means the same thing as spool the word.
Howard Brazee
>
> When VS/1, VS/2, VSAM, VS, VM and others were introduced, the "V"s all meant
> the same
> thing: "Virtual" ..... virtual this, virtual that, yadda, yadda, yadda.
>
> But one wasn't. However, EVERYONE was calling it Virtual Telecommunications
> Access
> Method, IBM had to change it to .... what everyone else was calling it.
>
> Originally, it was: "Vortex Telecommunications Access Method".
And now "virtual" means "having to do with computers". The word never
quite fit when it had some meaning in computers, and its new meaning
certainly doesn't fit the traditional meaning of the word.
I am virtually finished with my program...
Yvette Seifert Hirth, CCP, CDP
called.
And UCB - this is now obsolete?
<shrugging shoulders>
Huh. Back to school at my age! Pooh.
Y
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> Direct Coupled System, which doesn't really tell you much unless you are
> already familiar with the software in the 7090 era.
>
> Meanwhile, I wish that people wouldn't use the wrong acronym, e.g., BAL,
> UCB, and that IBM wouldn't recycle acronyms that have already been used,
> e.g., CMS. :-(
>
>
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Bielefeld [SMTP:EB...@HII.COM]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:24 AM
> >
> > What is DCS stand for? I wish people would spell out terms such as DCS
> > when they use them.
>
William Reitwiesner
>Direct Coupled System, which doesn't really tell you much unless you are
>already familiar with the software in the 7090 era.
>
>Meanwhile, I wish that people wouldn't use the wrong acronym, e.g., BAL,
>UCB, and that IBM wouldn't recycle acronyms that have already been used,
>e.g., CMS. :-(
Um, those aren't acronyms, those are initialisms.
If you pronounce it as a word, like "kicks", then it's an acronym. If you
spell it out, like "see eye see ess", then it's an initialism.
Pedantically yours,
William Addams Reitwiesner
wr...@loc.gov
John Ford
Although descriptive, I occasionally wondered how they picked "spool" for
that concept. So now you made go look... http://www.acronymfinder.com/ says:
Acronym Definition
SPOOL Send Print Out Off Line
SPOOL Simultaneous Peripheral Operations On-Line
SPOOL Simultaneous Peripheral Output On-Line
Now we better start a SPOOL thread [argh!] to decide which one (or another
one) IBM used.
-jcf
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Brazee [mailto:how...@BRAZEE.NET]
<snip>
The real silly one was when I read an IBM manual in the early 1980's to
discover that spool is really an acronym for a process which IBM has
which means the same thing as spool the word.
Eric Bielefeld
Eric Bielefeld
>>> John....@HEALTHPARTNERS.COM 08/24/00 11:52AM >>>
Howard,
Although descriptive, I occasionally wondered how they picked "spool" for
that concept. So now you made go look... http://www.acronymfinder.com/ says:
Acronym Definition
SPOOL Send Print Out Off Line
SPOOL Simultaneous Peripheral Operations On-Line
SPOOL Simultaneous Peripheral Output On-Line
Now we better start a SPOOL thread [argh!] to decide which one (or another
one) IBM used.
-jcf
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Robert A. Rosenberg
>Meanwhile, I wish that people wouldn't use the wrong acronym, e.g., BAL,
>UCB, and that IBM wouldn't recycle acronyms that have already been used,
>e.g., CMS. :-(
In the case of CMS, the name changed by it still referred to the same (or
functionally the same) program/facility. CP67/CMS was the same as VM/CMS
(just the Operating System evolved from CP67 to VM/370/390.
McKown, John
CMS = Conversation Monitor System (when used in a VM context)
CMS = Cross Memory Services (when used in an OS/390 context)
John McKown
HealthAxis
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:09 AM
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Mullen, Patrick
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Two different CMS acronyms (or initialism as somebody else pointed out)
CMS = Conversation Monitor System (when used in a VM context)
CMS = Cross Memory Services (when used in an OS/390 context)
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William H. Blair
>
> Although descriptive, I occasionally wondered how
> they picked "spool" for that concept. So now you
> made go look... http://www.acronymfinder.com/ says:
>
> Acronym Definition
> SPOOL Send Print Out Off Line
> SPOOL Simultaneous Peripheral Operations On-Line
> SPOOL Simultaneous Peripheral Output On-Line
>
> Now we better start a SPOOL thread [argh!] to decide
> which one (or another one) IBM used.
>
>>
>> The real silly one was when I read an IBM manual in the early 1980's to
>> discover that spool is really an acronym for a process which IBM has
>> which means the same thing as spool the word.
>>
There is no decision to make. Both the HASP and ASP
manuals I have explicitly indicate that IBM defined
SPOOL as "Simultaneous Peripheral Operations On Line."
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Bruce Black
> CMS = Conversation Monitor System (when used in a VM context)
> CMS = Cross Memory Services (when used in an OS/390 context)
(CP/67 and the original CMS came from IBM's Cambridge Labs).
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Chase, John
[SMTP:JMc...@HEALTHAXIS.COM] wrote:
> Two different CMS acronyms (or initialism as somebody else pointed out)
>
> CMS = Cross Memory Services (when used in an OS/390 context)
??? If that's true, what's XMS?
-jc-
McKown, John
>[SMTP:JMc...@HEALTHAXIS.COM] wrote:
>> Two different CMS acronyms (or initialism as somebody else
pointed out)
>>
>> CMS = Conversation Monitor System (when used in a VM context)
>> CMS = Cross Memory Services (when used in an OS/390 context)
>
>??? If that's true, what's XMS?
You're right. Brain failure on my part, I fear.
Bob Halpern
IBM Cambridge MA scientific center.
GerardS
| Mck...@HEALTHAXIS.COM wrote:
|> Two different CMS acronyms (or initialism as somebody else
|> pointed out)
|>
|> CMS = Conversation Monitor System (when used in a VM context)
|> CMS = Cross Memory Services (when used in an OS/390 context)
|>
|>??? If that's true, what's XMS?
Cross Memory Services was originally known as CMS (a little turf
battle was then going on between the MVS and VM within IBM) ...
It was later renamed to XMS.
Gerard S.
Skip Robinson
'initialism' (which BTW neither I nor my spell checker had ever heard of)
as 'an acronym formed from initial letters'. Therefore, according to
Aristotle, if M-V-S isn't an acronym, then it can't be an initialism.
Or maybe Webster and Aristotle should duke it out with Mr. Reitweiser as
referee. Winner takes all. ;-)
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>UCB, and that IBM wouldn't recycle acronyms that have already been used,
>e.g., CMS. :-(
Um, those aren't acronyms, those are initialisms.
If you pronounce it as a word, like "kicks", then it's an acronym. If you
spell it out, like "see eye see ess", then it's an initialism.
Pedantically yours,
William Addams Reitwiesner
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Greg Price
Any truth to the assertion that HAM is a third level acronym?
3: HAM = HASP Access Method
2: HASP= Houston Automatic SPOOLing Program
1: SPOOL = Simultaneous Peripheral Operations OnLine
Anyone know of any other 3rd or higher level acronyms?
Just wondering.
Cheers,
Greg Price
GerardS wrote:
Gerard S.
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William Reitwiesner
>I hate to call a pedantry foul, but my Webster's New Collegiate defines
>'initialism' (which BTW neither I nor my spell checker had ever heard of)
>as 'an acronym formed from initial letters'. Therefore, according to
>Aristotle, if M-V-S isn't an acronym, then it can't be an initialism.
>
>Or maybe Webster and Aristotle should duke it out with Mr. Reitweiser as
>referee. Winner takes all. ;-)
Webster's is wrong. See the Preface of the *Acronyms, Initialisms &
Abbreviations Dictionary* (ISSN 0270-4404), published by The Gale Group, of
Farmington Hills, Mich. The 26th edition of this series was published in
1999, in half a dozen (or so) volumes. The contents of this are not
available (as far as I'm aware) over the public Internet.
Final word (from me, at least) on this subject.
William Reitwiesner
wr...@loc.gov
Metz, Seymour
defines acronym as "a word formed from the initial letter or letters of each
of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term." That's it; no
restriction on how you pronounce an acronym. Also, it does not even list
initialism as a word.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Reitwiesner [SMTP:wr...@LOC.GOV]
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 12:23 PM
>
> Um, those aren't acronyms, those are initialisms.
>
> If you pronounce it as a word, like "kicks", then it's an acronym. If you
> spell it out, like "see eye see ess", then it's an initialism.
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Metz, Seymour
was referring to Cross Memory Services, which was not a new flavor of
Cambridge Monitor System.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert A. Rosenberg [SMTP:hal...@PANIX.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 12:09 PM
>
> In the case of CMS, the name changed by it still referred to the same (or
> functionally the same) program/facility. CP67/CMS was the same as VM/CMS
> (just the Operating System evolved from CP67 to VM/370/390.
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Metz, Seymour
Metz, Seymour
when someone is *NOT* talking about BAL but uses the acronym anyway. I doubt
that any code has been written in BAL for decades.
"UCB" is not obsolete. But the acronym is again misused where it is totally
wrong, as in "UCB address" when referring to something that is *NOT* the UCB
address.
BAL = Basic Assembler Language, a component of BPS. No macro support. Last
updated in the 1960s and dead, dead, dead. HLA is not BAL. Assembler (H) is
not BAL. Assembler (XF) is not BAL. ...
UCB = Unit Control Block. A data structure in storage. UCBNAME contains a
device address. What you put in the UNIT keyword is a device address or
device number, not the address of the UCB.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yvette Seifert Hirth, CCP, CDP [SMTP:yve...@dbtgroup.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:39 AM
>
> Wait a sec, Seymour, what's wrong with BAL? That's what it was originally
> called.
>
> And UCB - this is now obsolete?
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Mullen, Patrick
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From: Shirey, Greg [mailto:Shi...@CI.FORT-WORTH.TX.US]
Yes, but Webster's also defines a word as "an articulate or vocal
sound...uttered by the human voice and by custom expressing an idea or
ideas." So, if an acronym is a word, it must be an articulate or vocal
sound. I don't think DFSMS, for instance, meets the criteria.
Shirey, Greg
sound...uttered by the human voice and by custom expressing an idea or
ideas." So, if an acronym is a word, it must be an articulate or vocal
sound. I don't think DFSMS, for instance, meets the criteria.
Greg Shirey
City of Fort Worth
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From: Metz, Seymour [mailto:sm...@NSF.GOV]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 8:37 AM
Where do you get that from? Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary
defines acronym as "a word formed from the initial letter or letters of each
of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term." That's it; no
restriction on how you pronounce an acronym. Also, it does not even list
initialism as a word.
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Shirey, Greg
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From: Mullen, Patrick [mailto:Patrick...@SAGASOFTWARE.COM]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:53 AM
In what way does de-effessemmess not meet the criteria :)
<Yes, but Webster's also defines a word as "an articulate or vocal
sound...uttered by the human voice and by custom expressing an idea or
ideas.">
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Shirey, Greg
Greg Shirey
City of Fort Worth
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From: Metz, Seymour [mailto:sm...@NSF.GOV]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:39 AM
Which Webster's? If it only gave one definition, it's not a useful
reference; the one that I quoted from gives a dozen alternate definitions,
not all tied to voice. Which is just as well, since I would assume that
deaf-mute people communicating with ASL are using words.
DFSMS meets the criteria of at least two of the definitions.
Metz, Seymour
reference; the one that I quoted from gives a dozen alternate definitions,
not all tied to voice. Which is just as well, since I would assume that
deaf-mute people communicating with ASL are using words.
DFSMS meets the criteria of at least two of the definitions.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shirey, Greg [SMTP:Shi...@CI.FORT-WORTH.TX.US]
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:14 AM
>
> Yes, but Webster's also defines a word as "an articulate or vocal
> sound...uttered by the human voice and by custom expressing an idea or
> ideas." So, if an acronym is a word, it must be an articulate or vocal
> sound. I don't think DFSMS, for instance, meets the criteria.
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Metz, Seymour
words in a phrase. If it is then it is, and we'll be stuck with figuring out
how to pronounce it.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shirey, Greg [SMTP:Shi...@CI.FORT-WORTH.TX.US]
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:42 AM
>
> Well, then so does zzzyfrtz. But is it really a word or even an acronym?
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Shirey, Greg
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From: Metz, Seymour [mailto:sm...@NSF.GOV]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:49 AM
It's only an acronym if those are the initial letters of the words or major
words in a phrase. If it is then it is, and we'll be stuck with figuring out
how to pronounce it.
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Metz, Seymour
Sometimes it's even a word that we haven't already coined with an unrelated
meaning.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
"recycle newspapers, not acronyms."
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shirey, Greg [SMTP:Shi...@CI.FORT-WORTH.TX.US]
Chase, John
wrote:
> It's only an acronym if those are the initial letters of the words or
major
> words in a phrase. If it is then it is, and we'll be stuck with figuring
> how to pronounce it.
SAFIMID.
-jc-
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shirey, Greg [SMTP:Shi...@CI.FORT-WORTH.TX.US]
> > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:42 AM
> >
> > Well, then so does zzzyfrtz. But is it really a word or even an
> > acronym?
>
Shirey, Greg
about any slogan or collection of other words, you have added a boatload of
words to the language. How will Webster be able to keep up with them?
-----Original Message-----
From: Metz, Seymour [mailto:sm...@NSF.GOV]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:09 AM
An acronym is a word even before we figure out how to pronounce it.
Sometimes it's even a word that we haven't already coined with an unrelated
meaning.
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Metz, Seymour
people have even forgotten that they are acronyms.
As to keeping up, we have the same problem with words that are not acronyms,
but neologisms and new meanings loaded onto existing words, e.g., "color",
"charm".
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shirey, Greg [SMTP:Shi...@CI.FORT-WORTH.TX.US]
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 11:24 AM
>
> That's an astounding assertion. Since you can create an acronym out of
> just
> about any slogan or collection of other words, you have added a boatload
> of
> words to the language. How will Webster be able to keep up with them?
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Brad Taylor
Brad Taylor@NEON
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08/25/2000 10:38 AM
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I am outraged. As a charter member of Aroused Citizens Representing
Oppressed New York Minorites, I think this thread is inappropriate.
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Mullen, Patrick
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From: Metz, Seymour [mailto:sm...@NSF.GOV]
new meanings loaded onto existing words, e.g., "color", "charm".
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Rick Fochtman
new meanings loaded onto existing words, e.g., "color", "charm".
For the non-physicists: these are properties attributed to certain
short-lived subatomic particles that are created during high-energy
atom-smashing.
IIRC, they are properties of a particle called a QUARK.
GerardS
| IBM refers to the CMS lock.
IBM has to keep calling it the CMS lock (at least, internally) instead of
XMS as many programers have already coded their programs with the "CMS" name
for the (spin) lock.
In a similar vein, the old CMS (Cambridge Monitoring System), when it went
through the upgrade from CMS to CMS (heh heh heh) that is, it was now
known as the Converstional Monitoring System) has some of it's commands
renamed, the most notable was the
KX (kill execution)
command, which was renamed to
HX (halt execution) ---- [we can't have users KILLING their programs,
now, can we? ...],
which still has an internal (program) constant known as the
KX flag (EQUate).
Gerard S.
Howard Brazee
"Shirey, Greg" wrote:
>
> That's an astounding assertion. Since you can create an acronym out of just
> about any slogan or collection of other words, you have added a boatload of
> words to the language. How will Webster be able to keep up with them?
Dictionaries keep track on how often a new word is used - if it is used
enough, it is added. They don't care whether the word is an acronym or
not for this determination. Dictionaries also have proper names in
them, although they must use different thresholds. I just pulled out a
cheap dictionary and found "Denver" in it, but the city of "Boulder"
wasn't there (Boulder Dam was there).
How do dictionaries and spell checkers work in German, where compound
words get easily created and used?
I wish spell checker and dictionary software was better developed. All
software which does spell checking on my computer should recognize my
name without me putting it into 15 different spell checkers. When I
post in the IBM-MAIN newsgroup, it should recognize CICS, when I post in
a movie newsgroup, it should recognize Bette Davis (but possibly not
visa versa). I want it smart enough to know Orson Welles is correct but
H.G. Welles is incorrect. I want to add a word and have it ask enough
information to know which variations are correct (Schwarzenegger is a
name, therefore Schwarzenegger's is also spelled correctly, but
Schwarzeneggers may need to be flagged). I want to add words at a
workgroup level. I want to export my dictionaries and use them in my
next computer.
I want my newsgroup reader to recognize the "Joe Baloka wrote:" even
though it isn't part of the quote, and assume what IT placed there is
spelled correctly. I want spell checkers to check the subject line. I
want to tell the automatic spell checker to skip the 50 lines of JCL
which I pasted in my message.
I see no evidence that any work is being done in this field.
Skip Robinson
Bob Halpern
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If Webster wrote the first dictionary, where did he get the words?
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dictionary when it becomes "common", i.e., when it appears in the media with
others not needing a direct and immediate translation or explanation.....
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That's an astounding assertion. Since you can create an acronym out of just
about any slogan or collection of other words, you have added a boatload of
words to the language. How will Webster be able to keep up with them?
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Mike Andrews
: I don't know if you have noticed or not, but a "word" only appears in the
: dictionary when it becomes "common", i.e., when it appears in the media with
: others not needing a direct and immediate translation or explanation.....
Well ... not always.
I'm responsible for a word appearing in the Oxford English
Dictionary, and I've never (in a widely-read 40+ years)
seen it in the media. In fact, I've only seen it in one book
other than the OED, but it was in the book and _not_ in the
OED at the time. It's in both now, and I have the dictionary
slip to prove it.
Look up "avenor".
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subject. If he is wrong, he should politely answer any questions. For
example, many computer personnel assume that everyone knows what IBM stands
for; but I had to tell my 5 year old what it stood for. I told my older
kids to go look it up.