Using CA-JOBTRAC V11 in Production Environment
Carlson, Steve
Steve Carlson
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Burrell, C. Todd , CDC/OCOO/ITSO, CTR
Jobtrac 11.0. We tried to upgrade a couple of times and ran into
catastrophic errors every time, so the decision was made to just stay on
an unsupported release than to try and debug 11.0 for CA. There were a
number of quirks that caused issues with 11.0, but I don't really
remember them since we gave up on 11.0 about a year ago.
We will probably revisit 11.0 one day, but right now 3.5 runs fine and
it is very stable. Since we depend so heavily on Jobtrac for scheduling
we cannot take a chance on 11.0 until CA fixes the release.
If I can find the old emails on the issues we had I will post them. I
do know that we had numerous issues with Datacom.
C. Todd Burrell, PMP, MCP
Lead z/OS Systems Programmer
ITSO
(404) 723-2017 (Cell)
Bob Shannon
No software and no vendor is perfect. Have you worked with the vendor to resolve the issues? There are a number of forum participants from CA. I suspect one of them will take ownership of the issue.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
Beesley, Paul
hoping for a smooth ride. I have done the upgrade successfully on their
DR system.
Maybe it helps that they already run Datacom for CA11.
What service pack are you on ? SP4 seems pretty stable.
Regards
Paul
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Subject: Re: Using CA-JOBTRAC V11 in Production Environment
We have ended up staying on Jobtrac 3.5 due to the horrible issues with
Jobtrac 11.0. We tried to upgrade a couple of times and ran into
catastrophic errors every time, so the decision was made to just stay on
an unsupported release than to try and debug 11.0 for CA. There were a
number of quirks that caused issues with 11.0, but I don't really
remember them since we gave up on 11.0 about a year ago.
We will probably revisit 11.0 one day, but right now 3.5 runs fine and
it is very stable. Since we depend so heavily on Jobtrac for scheduling
we cannot take a chance on 11.0 until CA fixes the release.
If I can find the old emails on the issues we had I will post them. I
do know that we had numerous issues with Datacom.
C. Todd Burrell, PMP, MCP
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David Waldman
We have been running r11 SP1 on our z/OS 1.9 systems for almost 2 years
now without any major problems.
By far, the biggest challenge for us was installing and setting up Datacomm,
and implementing the Datacomm external RACF security.
We had lots of issues when we first started back in 08 with r11 SP0. SP0 was
not ready for production.
Dave Waldman
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:43:33 -0800, Carlson, Steve
<Steve....@NSC.COM> wrote:
> I have been working on getting CA-JOBTRAC V11 implemented into our
production environment. There is an internal customer asking about how many
mainframe shops are running CA-JOBTRAC V11 in a production environment.
Has anyone been able to use CA-JOBTRAC V11 in their production
environment, and what difficulties did you run into? If you were unable to
implement CA-JOBTRAC V11 into your production environment, then what did
you do?
>
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Burrell, C. Todd , CDC/OCOO/ITSO, CTR
Jobtrac 11.0 for the vendor. If the product is out on a beta release I
have no problem doing this, but we were on Jobtrac 11.0 SP3 and we were
still constantly sending in dumps to CA for different issues. We
eventually gave up, and it will be a LONG time before we revisit Jobtrac
11.0. The product/release was simply not ready for release, and a forum
will not help with this.
It would be interesting to hear any success stories...
C. Todd Burrell, PMP, MCP
Lead z/OS Systems Programmer
ITSO
(404) 723-2017 (Cell)
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John Kelly
If you were unable to implement CA-JOBTRAC V11 into your production
environment, then what did you do?
At this account, we got tired of trying to get it to work and dropped
JobTrac. We were lucky in that job scheduling was minimal and the rest
we put into MVS/OPS.
Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)