Tsiwreio 8ewrnma
Kostas Kartsonas
Astera kai brnka ta parakatw:
Kwstas
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Akolouthei h original diatypwsh tou thewrhmatos Tsiwra. Einai mia stigmh
istorikh, enas stathmos sthn istoria ths listas kai parakalw na deiksete
ton anagkaio sevasmo.
Vartan
(drumroll)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 20:35:00 CST
From: jco...@IHLPB.ATT.COM
Subject: H Hellas kai to movaxiko agori
To movadiko sumperasma pou ebgala apo autn tn lista stous 8 mnves tns suvdromns
mou eivai oti o ari0mos twv postings tou ka0e apostolea eivai eu0ews avalogos
me tn sexoualikn tou katastasn.
(Avaferomai apokleistika gia ta arsevika meln tns listas - elpizw oi kopellies
tns listas va mnv me pareksngnsouv).
Eimai apolutws bebaios oti opoios dev exei gomeva (n n gomeva tou eivai allou)
gemizei tn lista me mails (polles fores me epi0etiko ufos).
Av arxisei kati va psnvetai ta postings tou arxizouv va ligosteuouv.
Av bgalei gomeva (n av uparxousa er0ei va tov episkeutei) ta surmata siwpouv
akoma perisotero.
Perimevw tis gvwmes sas (me to xeri stnv kardia) gia va dw av apetuxa sta
sumperasmata mou.
Costas Tsioras
AT&T Bell Labs
Chicago
P.S. Na proteivw tn lusn pou 0a stamatnsei to faivomevo twv 200 mails tnv
nmera ?
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Additional Formulations by a variety of members through the years
to approve the theorem.
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Xiaretw,
Mou fainetai pws prepei na xanathymisw to Thewrima Tsiwra, mias kai vlepw
pws teleytaia h lista exei parei t' apanw ths. To Thewrima, me apla logia
leei ta exhs :
Hellas Theorem 1.0 ( Tsiwras et al., 1989 )
O Arithmos postings enos subscriber sthn Hellas einai antostrofws
analogos twn poswn forwn thn evdomada o subscriber vrisketai se
'intimate' shesh, me atomo toy antithetouy fylou.
Formoulation :
N = a/S + b
opou :
N: arithmos postings/week
S: Aritmos 'intimate encounters' / week
a, b statheres.
Elpizw na voithisa,
Kwnstantinos
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From: kont...@DIAMOND.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject: Re: To Thewrima
>From: "Kostas Blathras" <kos...@zoro.cis.temple.edu>
>Subject: To Thewrima
>
> Hellas Theorem 1.0 ( Tsiwras et al., 1989 )
> O Arithmos postings enos subscriber sthn Hellas einai antostrofws
> analogos twn poswn forwn thn evdomada o subscriber vrisketai se
> 'intimate' shesh, me atomo toy antithetouy fylou.
>
> Formoulation :
> N = a/S + b
>
> opou :
> N: arithmos postings/week
> S: Aritmos 'intimate encounters' / week
> a, b statheres.
Koita Kwsta, vomizw oti dev diatupwses swsta to 0ewrnma, dioti
agvonses tnv periptwsn pou paratnreitai suxva metaksu twv subscribers,
opou S = 0.0 (twra 0a mou peis giati real number edw, alla auto 0a to
suzntnsoume sto veo paper pou etoimazetai autn tnv epoxn). Dev 0a
diatupwsw pavtws edw tnv swstn formouleisiov, dioti vomizw oti
kseperva to skopo autou tou posting, alla 0a parapempsw tous
evdiaferomevous se katallnlo journal. Pavtws, meta apo apoktn0eisa
peira meta to '89, opote egive kai n arxikn diatupwsn, n vea version,
va poume, tou 0ewrnmatos 0a lambavei upopsnv tov ar0imo kafedwv pou
katavalwvei o subscriber kata tn diarkeia tns evergou sumetoxns tou
sto Network, tns katastasews twv aeriwv tns evdokoiliakns xwras, tuxov
suvavstrofes me eterofula atoma ta opoia exouv aspastei to Koravio 0a
lambavovtai upopsn me diaforetikn sta0era, opws kai o ari0mos postings
me diaforetiko ID (koivws fakes) episns 0a lambavetai upopsn me
diaforetikn sta0era.
Telos va upev0umisw oti av kapoios prospa0ei va lusei tnv parapavw
formula, va poume, ws pros S, me teliko skopo va brei posa encounters
eixe px. o Tade@Somewhere, gvwrizovtas tis sta0eres tou Tade, va
poume, kai tou bgei telika S < 0.0, tote exei pesei se periptwsn ...
omofulofulikns sxesws... (n periptwsn tns auto.i.kavopoinsews dev
lambavetai uposn, ka0ws ta apotelesmata tns eivai apolutws orata kata tnv
avagvwsn twv postings tou upo eksetasn subscriber, me apotelesma va
mnv epnrreazouv posws, va poume, tnv formouleisiov tou Tsiwreiou).
Tuxov erwtnseis parakalw, meta tis 15 tou mnva, stnv Glufada,
Bouliagmevn .n. Knfnsia kata protimnsn...
Ek tou avalutn tou Nova Club,
Yiwrgos, R-SUNJ, BME.
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From: ctsi...@IHLPN.ATT.COM
Subject: Re: To Thewrima
> Subject: To Thewrima
> Xiaretw,
> Mou fainetai pws prepei na xanathymisw to Thewrima Tsiwra, mias kai vlepw
> pws teleytaia h lista exei parei t' apanw ths. To Thewrima, me apla logia
> leei ta exhs :
> Hellas Theorem 1.0 ( Tsiwras et al., 1989 )
> O Arithmos postings enos subscriber sthn Hellas einai antostrofws
> analogos twn poswn forwn thn evdomada o subscriber vrisketai se
> 'intimate' shesh, me atomo toy antithetouy fylou.
> Formoulation :
> N = a/S + b
> opou :
> N: arithmos postings/week
> S: Aritmos 'intimate encounters' / week
> a, b statheres.
dustuxws Kwnstantine to 0ewrnma dev eixe labei upopsn to gegovos oti
o subscriber mporei va brisketai se intimate sxesn (koivws tsibikwma)
kai me meln tou tetrapodou basileiou (;-))).
As mas pei o avalutns tou Nova Club kurios Kontaxakns pws 0a mporousame va
baloume mesa sto formulation kai autnv tnv parametro.
> Elpizw na voithisa,
> Kwnstantinos
jCostas
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From: al...@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject: 0ewrnma: Suvexeia
Sumfwvoi me tnv vea nmiempeirikn sxesn pou proteivei o Dimitrios ALLA
me mia allagn sto prosnmo kai mia mikrn gevikeusn:
N = a / ( S + c ) + b
Opou a,b,c sta0eres kai opwsdnpote a,c>0 (alliws odngoume se arvntiko
ari0mo postings)
Av malista orisoume:
Nmax = N(S=0) = a/c +b
sav to megisto duvato ari0mo postings (isoduvamo me S=0 ara megales kapsoures)
kai episns orisoume eva adiastato S:
s = S/c kai n= N / Nmax
tote exoume tnv evdiaferousa morfn:
n = (1 + g s) / (1 + s)
opou
g= 1 / (1 + a/bc )
me to movo periwrismo oti g < 1
H fusikn snmasia twv sta0erwv;
To g (to "gamma" dnladn) paristavei to limit ka0ws s-->infinity
giauto to ovomasa kai "gamma".
H sta0era c periexei mesa to restriction oti kai av akomi s-->0
dev eivai duvatov to N--> infinity giati uparxouv kai periorismoi
tou diktuou....
Av loipov eivai va givei mia peiramatikn avalusn tote to
kleidi eivai va bre0ei n sta0era "gamma".
To peirama pou proteivetai eivai va paroume autov
pou kavei ta perissotera postings kai va tov kleisoume se
klivikn me vumfomaveis kai parakolou0nsoume pws allazei to n.
Av paei va kavei level off se kapoia timn, 0axoume brei tnv sta0era "gamma".
Bebaia sto movtello dev exw balei akomi mia alln sta0era pou va pairvei
up'opsiv tn fusikn avtoxn tou ev logou Hellasitn sto limit s-->infinity.
Alekos
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From: al...@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject: 0ewrnma Suvexeia
Loipov kati va pros0esw stnv avalusn tou 0ewrnmatos:
Eixame meivei me tnv adiastatn morfn:
n = ( 1 + gamma s ) / ( 1 + s )
Avagvwrizovtas omws oti gamma = n (s-->infinity) blepoume oti
n pio fusiologikn adiastatn morfn tou N eivai:
N- Nmin / Nmax - Nmin kai oxi N/Nmax
Etsi loipov av twra orisoume eva diaforetiko n ws:
n= (N-gamma) / (Nmax - gamma) exoume tnv polu apln morfn:
n = 1/ (1+s)
Pou dev exei kammia parametros.
Sumperasma. To PT0: Prwto Tsiwriov 0ewrnma eivai UNIVERSAL!
Edw skubw to kefali mou prws tnv idiofuia tou Kuriou Tsiwra
pou borese va dei amesws tnv fusikn suvdesn twv duo faivomevwv
To 0erwnma isxuei gia OLOUS mas. Dnladn dev exei dikaiologies tou tupou
"n dikn mou n sta0era a eivai mikrotern apo tn dikn sou giati eimai
pio wraios", Oxi!
H aplwtns kai idifuia tou 0ewrnmatos eivai favern stn sxesn:
n = 1 / (1+s)
Gia olous mas isxuei qualitatively n IDIA AKRIBWS KAMPULH!
Twra gia osous evdiaferovtai qualitatively va brouve tis akribes times tou
N kai S tote ev0umoume edw oti:
gamma= bc / (a+bc)
Nmax=(a+bc) / c
kai s=S/c
Prosexws: Linear Stability Analysis kai Epiron tns sta0eras m (as in Mutlu)
Alekos
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An kai pote den synexisthke h seira twn papers (due to lack of funds?) exoume
mia poly kalh kai endiaferousa douleia...
Vartan
PS. To thewrhma einai applicable se arketous aftes tis meres...