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Leo J. Irakliotis

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Sta tria xronia akribws eftasa sto aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy. Tote htan sto
dytiko, ayth th fora sto anatoliko. Molis eixan kleisei oi kalpes kai
anoijei ta stomata stis thleoraseis. To ueama htan apolaystiko: ysteries,
fwnes, prowroi panhgyrismoi oi opoioi argotera metatraphkan se yposxeseis
prosfyghs se eklogodikeia, dhlwseis epwnymwn kai anwnymwn, thleoptika
parauyra me toys antimaxoys na fwnaskoyn kai ton dhmosiografo sth mesh na
xamogelaei yperoptika yperanw olwn, kai liga sas lew.

Ayth h xwra htan kapote Balkania, den htan paije-gelase. Shmera ua mporoyse
kallista na einai h 51h politeia twn HPA, ena krama apo West Virginia, Texas,
kai oligon Christian South genikws -- exoyme blepete kai ton Xristodoylo.

Kai ti den exei omws to periboli. Exoyme exit-polls mprosta apo ta eklogika
tmhmata gia na mauainoyme grhgorotera to epikeimeno apotelesma ths kalphs.
Oi palioi politikoi paromoiazan thn kalph me thn egkyo gynaika. Mexri thn
teleytaia stigmh den jereis an ua bgalei agori 'h koritsi. Poy na'jeran gia
toys yperhxoys kai ta exit polls oi foykarades -- ase poy htan kollhmenoi kai
se enan aysthro dikommatismo!

Perpatas sta magazia ekei sto Syntagma kai nomizeis pws eisai se kanena mall.
Bitrines ala Pottery Barn, Bed Bath and Beyond, Linen and Things kai ta
sxetika.

Stis efhmerides oi trapezes diafhmizoyn etairikes kartes ths AmEx, kaue
trapeza bgazei kai th dikia ths Visa -- h Mastercard den kineitai poly ap'
oti fainetai -- sta deltia eidhsewn yparxoyn xorhgoi gia ton kairo kai ta
aulhtika nea, kai h UPS kobei boltes stoys dromoys me bespes bammenes sto
gnwsto xrwma kai me kalauaki sto pisw kauisma. Se poion antiamerikanismo toy
Ellhna pontarise o makariths o Antreas, adynatw na katalabw. Dhladh "ejw oi
baseis" kai "mesa to Barnes & Noble, Starbucks, Office Depot, kai Wendy's?".

Ta kinhta thlefwna pernoyn kai dinoyn ... h Telestet pernaei se eptachfio
systhma klhsewn dioti toys teleiwsan oi ariumoi! H katanalwsh jeperase tis
prosdokies toys. Sta kafe ths plateias Ejarxeiwn ta kinhta den stamatoyn na
xtypoyn. Shmeiwnei kaneis arage thn eirwneia? Kyrades, filanurwpoi papades,
oloi toys me ta kinhta. Opoy koitazw na koitazeis, olh h Ellada mia
ateleiwth syndialejh. An ypologiseis to axti toy Ellhna me thn talaipwria
poy etrwge apo ton OTE edw kai tosa xronia, mazi me thn tash gia epideijh
(eimaste Mhtsoi poy ueloyme na ginoyme Dhmhtrhdes -- efh Lazopoylos)
katalabaineis giati piasan ta kinhta toso. Xortasan oi Ellhnes apo
Anagnwrish Klhshs (Caller ID), Anamonh Klhshs (Call Waiting), Metagwgh Klhshs
(Call Forwarding), k.a. Eidikoi stis thlepikoinwnies giname!

H Auhna paidia den ftiaxnetai me tipota. O Abramopoylos to 'xei piasei to
nohma kai asxoleitai me syntribania, leloyda, kagkelakia stoys dromoys kai
alla synafh. Bgainei meta h Damanakh (dixws yposthrijh apo to PASOK) kai
leei ua thn ftiajw egw thn polh, les ki oi Auhnaioi trwne pia koytoxorto.
Gremizontai mwrh oi polykatoikies na fardynoyn oi dromoi kai na ftiaxtoyn
pezodromia? Pws ua lyseis to kykloforiako? Ua kaneis t' aytokinhta pio
mikra? Ma ginetai pio mikro oxhma apo to Cinquecento (sp?). Exei gemisei h
Ellada pia me dayta poy moiazoyn me anaphrika karotsakia... skwliwsh
pauaineis gia na mpeis.

"H Auhna file den ftiaxnetai" moy lege o tajitzhs poy me phge sto aerodromio
gia na anebw Uessalonikh. "Edw ua peuanoyme" eipe oso eimastan kollhmenoi
sthn Xarilaoy Trikoyph gia trianta lepta. Ton pisteca otan sthn Syggroy
piasame ta 160 xiliometra thn wra me aytokinhto 19 etwn.

Sto aerodromio to idio xaos me thn Olympiakh. H ypallhlos huele na moy
xrewsei yperbaro (gia thn aposkeyh Koyklh, oxi gia mena). Ma, ths lew, to
eishthrio einai polyptyxo, apo Chicago ... 30 kila moy epitrepei. Tipota
ayth ... 15 kila stis pthseis eswterikoy kai huele na dei kai to diabathrio
moy. Ti to ues to diabathrio afoy einai pthsh eswterikoy. Na ths deixnw egw
ta 30 kila poy egrafe to eishthrio kai na moy leei ayth pws isxyei mono apo
Chicago pros Auhna. Sto telos hrue kai h pro.i.stamenh -- prepei na thn
ferane apo thn khdeia ths mhteras ths dioti tetoia moytra eixe -- kai eipe
pws exei dikio o kyrios den prepei na plhrwsei yperbaro. Dakrysa apo
sygkinhsh: thn wra poy h Ellada ginetai Amerikh h Olympiakh mas paramenei
akrws balkanikh. Les na yparxei Ueos?

Fysika kai yparxei Ueos. Doylos kai apostolos aytoy o arxiepiskopos toy
Ueoy ton logo skorpaei me to xamogelo kai se aptaisth dhmotikh, eniote
malliarizoysa. Tis goystaroyn allwste tis trixes oi papades mas. Fwtogenhs
o dikos soy me to mati tsaxpiniko milaei kai ton katalabainei o kosmos.
Einai na mhn ginei firma o arxiepiskopos? Milaei o Baruolomaios ki an den
exeis ton Kwnstantino ton Palaiologo 'h estw ton allo ton Gyrologo (aka,
Mhtsotakh) na soy metafrazei den katalabainei gri h giagia. Enw o
Xristodoylos exei mia anesh, allo pragma. San pramateyths poy dialalei "o,ti
pareis ekato, asto katw ayto kyra moy, pentakosies kanei".

H Astynomia pernaei krish megalh, eidika meta to episodio me ton
Ellhnoroymano -- toy opoioy ta Ellhnika htan kalytera apo toy Eyaggelatoy! O
prwuypoyrgos den exei politikh eyuynh -- dhlwse -- mia mera prin epilejei to
neo arxhgo ths ELAS, oyte ki o Ypoyrgos Dhmosias tajhs. Eytyxws poy ston
eperxomeno anasxhmatismo ua yparjoyn leei kai domikes allages kai isws to Yp.
Dhmosias Tajhs na aporrofhuei sto Eswterikwn. Sto metajy kratoymenoi
"aytoktonoyn" -- proxtes ena paidi 14 etwn apo th Boylgaria sta kraththria
ths Dramas kremasthke -- kai auwoi pyroboloyntai en cyxrw "shoot first, ask
latter": to pio prosfato peristatiko sth Uessalonikh opoy Gioygkoslabos
foithths ektelesuhke apo astynomiko poy ton perase gia klefth sto kentro ths
polhs. Kai meis anarrwtiomaste poia na 'nai h Ellhnikh prwtoboylia gia
eirhnh sta Balkania...

Me ta polla eftasa sth Drama, pantreca toys filoys moy poy toys perimename
dekatessara xronia kai epistrefw sth Uessalonikh (eipame kyrie Koyklh exoyme
kai doyleies) kai meta spiti moy sto Chicago.

Tria xronia eixa na eruw sthn Ellada kai moy 'leice. Ti htan omws ayto poy
moy 'leipe? Akomh den to 'xw brei kai mallon m' ayth thn aporia ua fygw.
Xalali omws dioti to ryzi poy mas rantisan sto gamo -- basmati htan -- ebale
mprosta alles sygkinhseis kai mas phre se kati ypogeies diadromes kai
mysthria reymata ta opoia apaitoyn ellhnikes grammatoseires.

Na 'ste kala,
Lewnidas
sto parko twn Komnhnwn

Nikos Sarantakos

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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At 07:09 ðì 26/10/98 -0600, Leo J. Irakliotis wrote:
>
>Ayth h xwra htan kapote Balkania, den htan paije-gelase. Shmera ua mporoyse
>kallista na einai h 51h politeia twn HPA, ena krama apo West Virginia, Texas,
>kai oligon Christian South genikws -- exoyme blepete kai ton Xristodoylo.
>
>Kai ti den exei omws to periboli. Exoyme exit-polls mprosta apo ta eklogika
>tmhmata gia na mauainoyme grhgorotera to epikeimeno apotelesma ths kalphs.
>Oi palioi politikoi paromoiazan thn kalph me thn egkyo gynaika. Mexri thn
>teleytaia stigmh den jereis an ua bgalei agori 'h koritsi. Poy na'jeran gia
>toys yperhxoys kai ta exit polls oi foykarades -- ase poy htan kollhmenoi kai
>se enan aysthro dikommatismo!
>
>Perpatas sta magazia ekei sto Syntagma kai nomizeis pws eisai se kanena mall.
>Bitrines ala Pottery Barn, Bed Bath and Beyond, Linen and Things kai ta
>sxetika.
>
>Stis efhmerides oi trapezes diafhmizoyn etairikes kartes ths AmEx, kaue
>trapeza bgazei kai th dikia ths Visa -- h Mastercard den kineitai poly ap'
>oti fainetai -- sta deltia eidhsewn yparxoyn xorhgoi gia ton kairo kai ta
>aulhtika nea, kai h UPS kobei boltes stoys dromoys me bespes bammenes sto
>gnwsto xrwma kai me kalauaki sto pisw kauisma. Se poion antiamerikanismo toy
>Ellhna pontarise o makariths o Antreas, adynatw na katalabw. Dhladh "ejw oi
>baseis" kai "mesa to Barnes & Noble, Starbucks, Office Depot, kai Wendy's?".
>
>Ta kinhta thlefwna pernoyn kai dinoyn ... h Telestet pernaei se eptachfio
>systhma klhsewn dioti toys teleiwsan oi ariumoi! H katanalwsh jeperase tis
>prosdokies toys.

(ktl.)

Lewnida, wraia ta les, alla' sto peri 51hs politeias pefteis polu eksw.
Den sunteleitai eksamerikanismos, alla' ekseurwpa.ismos sthn
ellada, allwste ta eksit polls ki an den einai gallikh patenta (isws
einai) oi galloi prwtoi ta eftasan se epipedo aksiopistias.

Akou 51h politeia! Exei o mesos amerikanos 25 meres adeia to
xrono? Deka kai parakaletes, mou lene oi amerikanoi, klaigontas.

ns

Yianna Papanikolaou

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Oct 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/27/98
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Panos Kouklis wrote:

> tsekares ta merh pou tragoudane oi talentares kai anastenazei h ellada?
> perna apo kanena magazi pou syxnazei o agroths, o ergaths, o foithths, o
> dianooumenos, o fantaros. rixe kammia zeimpekia kai na tragoudaei o gyftos
> "esy pou hsouna olh h zwh mou , egines twra h katastrofh mou", spase
> kanena piato kai nanai ola ta skylia sthn pista, ti allo kinhtro 0es gia
> na gyriseis dhladh?
> h ellada pou antisteketai, h ellada pou epimenei re, akou na akouseis pou
> den exei leei panepisthmia,nosokomeia kai dromous
> mhn eiste epifaneiakoi typoi, to ba0os metraei...
>
> panos

Kai to vathos apo pou trefetai?
Kai ta skilia stin pista ti paristanoun?

Oxi pos diafono m'auta pou les peri ousiastikis
omorfias kai vathous (psihis isos), alla kati liga
-san ki auta pou leei o Leonidas- me provlimatizoun,
kai kati alla liga me anisihoun, me halane.

Yianna.

Lida Anestidou

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Oct 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/27/98
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Ma agaphte mou Sarantako, 3exases na peis pws uparxei kai pio
apotelesmatikos tropos gia na xwrame sta pezodromia: na adunatisoun oi
xontroi!

to arxidiabolaki >:>

Lida Anestidou

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Panos Kouklis wrote:
>
>
>
> h ellada pou antisteketai, h ellada pou epimenei re, akou na akouseis pou
> den exei leei panepisthmia,nosokomeia kai dromous
> mhn eiste epifaneiakoi typoi, to ba0os metraei...

eidika to ba8os twn katadysewn, Pano mou, eidika auto!


to arxidiabolaki >:>

Leo J. Irakliotis

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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> Phgaine sta Giannena

Niko toso to Xatzhkwsta (prwhn panepisthmiako) to opoio einai etoimoropo kai
moyxliasmeno oso kai to neo panepisthmiako to opoio einai xtismeno dipla sth
xaboyza ths Pedinhs/Doyroyths exoyn th brwmia toys kai ta problhmata toys.
Teleytaia fora sto panepisthmiako twn Iwanninwn breuhka ton Oktwbrh toy 1995.
An kati allaje apo tote, ua 'nai ena eyxaristo neo.

Lewnidas

Leo J. Irakliotis

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> Kardivalie, otav sta legame auta priv apo deka xrovia (sxedov tou de' vtei
> gamw to feleki mou) esy agrov ngorazes...otav o ka0eis pou katebaive kai
> meta tnv epistrofn tou listopoiouse tis evtypwseis tou krouwvtas tnv
> kampava tns Filadelfias esy xleuazes 0ewrovtas oti episkeptnkav mia kapia
> alln xwra kai oxi tnv Ellada pou (vomizes) oti nkseres kalytera apo
> oiovdnpote allov.

Petro 'h se phran ta xronia 'h xtyphses mpompa whiskey megale. Gia uymhse
moy pote egraca ayta ta opoia moy apodideis; Prin 10 xronia (toy de nte.i.
plas ma.i.noys toy giars) den hmoyn sth lista.
Lewnidas

Leo J. Irakliotis

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Grafei o Nikos Sarantaos:

> Oso gia ta prokeimenou pou les pio katw, den exei nohma na
> ta suzhthsw ena-ena (pezodromia, nosokomeia ktl. -se polla
> sumfwnw) alla' oi etairoi mas -pou leme- ta exoun kataferei
> xwris na ftasoun sto epipedo kthnwdias ths amerikhs.

Me toys etairoys mas -- poy leme -- mas xwrizei mia oysiwdhs diafora Niko kai
pisteyw pws entopizetai sthn paideia.

Den pernw kapoia sygkekrimenh fash. H stash moy apenanti sto genikotero
zhthma peri Elladas einai h idia edw kai xronia ki as me mperdeyei o Petros
me allon. H diafora moy isws me ton Petro na einai sto gegonos pws pera apo
thn kritikh moy pisteyw pws o topos exei dynamiko to opoio dystyxws paramenei
se desmies katastaseis elleicei oramatos kai sklhrhs doyleias.

> Edw tis proalles anoikse o Beropoulos to deutero soupermarket
> sta Skopia kai htan parontes sthn teleth o upourgos ekswterikwn,
> o upourgos oikonomias, o dhmarxos Skopiwn kai h kuria Gkligkoroba.

Me kauysterhsh 10+ etwn Niko. Ayto poy jekinhse o Beropoylos prin 2-3 xronia
eprepe na eixe jekinhsei prin 10-12 xronia. Twra einai kommataki arga dioti
ton Beropoylo ton exoyn prolabei Aggloi, Galloi, Germanoi, kai Amerikanoi.
Na 'maste kai meis, ws aggarofatses, teleytaioi kai kata.i.drwmenoi. Me to
"einai kefath" den ginetai ejwterikh politikh, pWs na to kanoyme.

Lewnidas

Nikos Sarantakos

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Gia xontrous den kserw, giati akoma den eimai.
Kai den anaferqhka eidika sta pezodromia, opou allwste
sumfwnw me ton Leo.

To na dianuseis thn Agiou Aleksandrou (ksereis esu)
sprwxnontas karotsi, apo thn paralia ws th Na.iadwn,
kai apofeugontas neratzies kai autokinhta, einai
aqlos pou ton ekana kapote duo fores th mera. Skefthka
na to proteinw kai sthn kuria Gianna na to baloume
Olumpiako agwnisma to 2004
"dromos meta fusikwn kai metafusikwn empodiwn"
kai ta metallia qa ta eixame eksasfalismena.

ns

Nikos Sarantakos

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At 12:58 ðì 28/10/98 -0600, Leo J. Irakliotis wrote:
>Grafei o Nikos Sarantaos:

>
>> Edw tis proalles anoikse o Beropoulos to deutero soupermarket
>> sta Skopia kai htan parontes sthn teleth o upourgos ekswterikwn,
>> o upourgos oikonomias, o dhmarxos Skopiwn kai h kuria Gkligkoroba.
>
>Me kauysterhsh 10+ etwn Niko. Ayto poy jekinhse o Beropoylos prin 2-3 xronia
>eprepe na eixe jekinhsei prin 10-12 xronia. Twra einai kommataki arga dioti
>ton Beropoylo ton exoyn prolabei Aggloi, Galloi, Germanoi, kai Amerikanoi.
>Na 'maste kai meis, ws aggarofatses, teleytaioi kai kata.i.drwmenoi. Me to
>"einai kefath" den ginetai ejwterikh politikh, pWs na to kanoyme.
>
>Lewnidas
>

Prin apo 10-12 xronia htan 1986-1988 kai opws ksereis
ola taskiaze h fobera kai ta plakwne h sklabia tou
koumounismou.

Twra, eixa diabasei oti oi ellhnikes ependuseis sth DtM
(lansarw ta nea arxika ths PGDM gia na ta sunhqisoume:-))
einai polles, isws oi deuteres meta apo ...(? den qumamai).
Bebaia, den epimenw, esu eisai o panepisthmiakos edwmesa,
opote fantazomai ta stoixeia sou qa ta exeis tsekarei kalutera.
den nomizw na mas poulas foumara. Mallon etsi pou to
les qa einai.

ns

Lida Anestidou

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me sygxwreis, nthar, alla sthn A8hna se kentrikous dromous, apo tote pou
mphkan ta kagkela kai empodizoun ta mhxanakia na parkaroun sta
pezodromia, perpatas mia xaroula.
Ara den einai pantou ta pezodromia mikra. (Ena to kratoumeno)
(deutero to kratoumeno). Apo to terastio xali tou Palaiou Falhrou esena
h Agiou Ale3androu se peira3e? Mhpws *den* eides th brwma kai dyswdia me
ta skoupidia pantou, kadous aplytous, xartia sto dromo, mpaza
parathmena, myrwdies euwdiastes? Mallon 8a'souna se allo Falhro tis
proalles. Prwth fora eida tetoio xali, o a8lios o prwhn dhmarxos pou
bghke kai 2 fores sunexeia, o axrhstos, o brwmiarhs, katanthse to Falhro
sa thn toualetta tou spitiou tou. Gia mena, loipon, proexei na
ka8aristei o topos kai epeita na ftia3oun ta pezodromia. Ase pou, molis
arxisoun na rixnoun klhseis gia to parking sthn Agiou Ale3androu, 9a
mporeseis na perpathseis mia xara.

Lhda
PS. einai gegonos, pantws, oti oso mikrotero to ektopisma tou swmatos
sou, toso pio eulugistos eisai kai xwras se trupoules:)))

Nikos Sarantakos

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At 07:14 ðì 28/10/98 -0600, Lida Anestidou wrote:
>me sygxwreis, nthar, alla sthn A8hna se kentrikous dromous, apo tote pou
>mphkan ta kagkela kai empodizoun ta mhxanakia na parkaroun sta
>pezodromia, perpatas mia xaroula.
>Ara den einai pantou ta pezodromia mikra. (Ena to kratoumeno)
>(deutero to kratoumeno). Apo to terastio xali tou Palaiou Falhrou esena
>h Agiou Ale3androu se peira3e? Mhpws *den* eides th brwma kai dyswdia me
>ta skoupidia pantou, kadous aplytous, xartia sto dromo, mpaza
>parathmena, myrwdies euwdiastes? Mallon 8a'souna se allo Falhro tis
>proalles.

Se parakalw, ti antifalhrikh usteria einai auth! Na omologhsw
dhladh ola mas ta straba stous ksenous? :-))

Prwth fora eida tetoio xali, o a8lios o prwhn dhmarxos pou
>bghke kai 2 fores sunexeia, o axrhstos, o brwmiarhs, katanthse to Falhro
>sa thn toualetta tou spitiou tou.

Treis fores bghke: 1986, 1990 kai 1994.

Gia mena, loipon, proexei na
>ka8aristei o topos kai epeita na ftia3oun ta pezodromia. Ase pou, molis
>arxisoun na rixnoun klhseis gia to parking sthn Agiou Ale3androu, 9a
>mporeseis na perpathseis mia xara.

Pros to paron, oute to lewforeio den mporei na stripsei apo thn
Tritwnos, to parakolouqw apo to mpalkoni mou (otan eimai
ekei) na frakarei sth strofh, toulaxiston treis fores th mera
erxetai h troxaia.

Telos pantwn, epeidh th Deutera einai ta geneqlia mou kai den
ennow na ta perasw sthn allodaph, qa petaxtw aurio katw kai
ama th epistrofh mou qa sou pw an beltiwqhke h katastash
twra pou o laos tou Falhrou katadikase thn antila.ikh politikh
ths deksias :-))

ns

Panos Kouklis

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yianna papanikolau wrote:
>
>Kai to vathos apo pou trefetai?
>Kai ta skilia stin pista ti paristanoun?

to bathos einai ekei kai yparxei, given, de 0elei tipota gia na trafei
ta skylia einai decor aplws, mhn th skeftesai ponhra th fash


>Oxi pos diafono m'auta pou les peri ousiastikis
>omorfias kai vathous (psihis isos), alla kati liga
>-san ki auta pou leei o Leonidas- me provlimatizoun,
>kai kati alla liga me anisihoun, me halane.

o metanasths (emeis oi perissoteroi) exei panta th dikia tou eikona apo th
xwra pou afhse, ola tou fainontai perierga, eikona streblwmenh apo th
nostalgia, oxi toso tou xwrou alla tou xronou.
ola 0elei na ta sygkrinei me tote kai me allou san to mwro paidi

ara koulare kai mhn problhmatizesai kai anhshxeis mauta pou lene oi
hellasites. ka0enas to bioli tou


panos

>Yianna.

Panos Kouklis

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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>eidika to ba8os twn katadysewn, Pano mou, eidika auto!

de mou les, ekanes tipota? ante giati 0a skouriasoun ta diplwmata


panos


>
>to arxidiabolaki >:>

Leo J. Irakliotis

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Grafei o Nikos Sarantakos:

> Prin apo 10-12 xronia htan 1986-1988 kai opws ksereis
> ola taskiaze h fobera kai ta plakwne h sklabia tou
> koumounismou.

Niko den einai akribws etsi. H poreia ths Gioygkoslabias htan fanerh apo
kairo kai oi diatmhtikes taseis meta ton uanato toy Tito eixan arxisei na
ginontai aisuhtes sta ypoloipa Balkania. Yphrxe loipon tote sthn Ellada enas
diplwmaths stadiodromias onomati Mixalhs Doyntas o opoios afoy ekane mia
ejoxh analysh toy Gioygkoslabikoy (h analysh eixe dhmosieytei kai ston
Ellhniko Typo, mallon ston Oikonomiko alla den eimai bebaios gi ayto)
proteine mia oikonomikh epiuesh ths Elladas ston eyrytero xwro twn Balkaniwn,
arxhs genomenhs apo thn omospondh dhmokratia ths Makedonias (tote kapws etsi
thn apokaloysame epishmws). To problhma htan pws o Doyntas anhke sth sxolh
twn "realistwn" oson afora thn ejwterikh politikh kai oso na 'nai oi apoceis
toy den htan idiaitera dhmofileis. Eixan enuarynuei malista arketoi Ellhnes
epixeirhmaties na anoixtoyn sta Skopia alla af'enos ta kinhtra ta opoia toys
douhkan den htan arketa kai epeita mas proekyce oikoymenikh kai Samaras kai
jypnhsan ta eunikistika aisuhmata. Opws gnwrizeis akomh trexoyme na sbhsoyme
tis fwties poy anacan.

Oi ependyseis toy Beropoyloy sthn FYROM (kai auroistika twn Ellhnwn) se
sygkrish me tis ependyseis toy Soros kai amerikanwn uesmikwn ependytwn, kauws
kai eyrwpa.i.kwn omilwn einai mallon mikres. Tosa mporw na soy pw apo th
Drama. Me thn epistrofh sto Chicago ua mporesw na dwsw kai posotika stoixeia
an endiaferesai. Endeiktika stoixeia isws briskontai sto WWW server toy
Soros Foundation. An uymamai kala einai www.soros.org.

Lewnidas

Lida Anestidou

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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Panoulh, kanonizw na bouth3oume me ta O.Y.K., de sto'pa? Skeftoami
kanena nhsi tou Ioniou, exeis na proteineis tipote kalo?


L.

Lida Anestidou

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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e, ti na sou pw...egw, bre orgio, pws ta perasa proxtes sto galveston ta
dika mou gene8lia kai su mas petas ena ..ax, paw A8hna, adelfia..

bre oust:))

L.

LHDAKI ELEOS!

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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Lndaki mou dev n3era pws eixes geve0lia. Alliws
0a eixa steilei mpouketo me Interflora...
XRONIA POLLA pavtws sou euxomai, EYTYXISMENA,
kai elpizw ta epomeva geve0lia sou va ta giortasoume mazi.

Kitsos


File/filn esteiles mnvuma sumparastasns
sto: anes...@girch1.med.uth.tmc.edu???
Zntnses apo to Lndaki va sugxwresei tov Xrnstara?
Av vai, xilia euxaristw. Av oxi, mnv to avabaleis allo.

Panos Kouklis

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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leei h lhda

>Panoulh, kanonizw na bouth3oume me ta O.Y.K., de sto'pa? Skeftoami
>kanena nhsi tou Ioniou, exeis na proteineis tipote kalo?


nhsi tou ioniou 0es?
tote mallon gia kerkyra syzhtame, pantws ekei (eidika esy) den blepw na
thn bgazeis ka0arh xeimwna kairo.
ti 0a eleges gia gh tou pyros h estw kanena kourakao h aruba,
sthn esxath anagkh ante mexri kai jamaika, kommatia na ginei

panos

>L.

Lida Anestidou

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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mpa, elega gia kammia I8akh, einai pio zesta apo thn kekryra..

curacao kai aruba poly euxaristws...twra pou exei kai apeu8eias
aeroplanaki apo xeston, poios mas pianei:))

L.
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