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ALEXANDROS IORDANOGLOU

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Jan 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/31/97
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>>> Spyros Dascaleas <s.das...@CITYSCAPE.CO.UK> 01/31/97 08:26am >>>
At 12:02 30/01/97 -0500, ALEXANDROS IORDANOGLOU wrote:
>>Kat' arxas, to callback den einai paranomo. Alla kai na einai, ginetai mono
>>kai mono gia na mas xrewnei o OTE oti goustarei. Ligos antagwnismos
>>de blaptei, idiws an exei san apotelesma kaluteres times gia ton
>>katanalwti (Economics 101).
>
>
>Katse... 'h einai paranomo 'h den einai... ti paei na pei antagwnismos kai
>ahdies... an kati einai paranomo se mia xwra, einai paranomo gia kapoio
>sygkekrimeno logo (ston opoio den anaferomai twra, alla an to ferei h
>koybenta, paei ki ekei to 8ema).


Tha sou eksigisw giati einai paranomo: pane oi tou OTE kai klaigontai
stin kubernisi oti to callback exei san apotelesma ti meiwsi kata
15-20% (den kserw an ta pososta auta einai akribi gia tin Ellada, auto
omws einai to average gia tis upoloipes xwres) twn uperastikwn
tilefwnimatwn pou exoun ton OTE san carrier.

Leei loipon i kubernisi: "a tous poustides! Tha to apagorepsw dia
nomou gia na sunexisei o OTE na xrewnei oti tou katebei, na min
kanei pote anadiarthrwsi kai na mi dei pote o katanalwtis aspri
mera oson afora xamiles times kai kalo service".

Otan ena monopwlio ksafnika brisketai sta prothura tis eisaksis
antagwnismou stin agora, kanei oti mporei gia na diatirisei to
status quo pou to sumferei. Etsi loipon, o OTE zitaei na
kiruxthei paranomo to callback. Den paei na pei omws oti einai
kai swsto auto. Polla perissotera ofeli exei na prosferei ena
competitive market environment, para mia meriki idiwtikopoiisi
me xilia duo prostateutika metra gia tin idiwtikopoioumeni etaireia
.
Oxi de, mono gia ton katanalwti, alla kai gia tin idia tin etaireia
pou kateixe to monopwlio, afou tha tin wthisei sto na ginei pio
efficient kai pio euaisthiti stis sunthikes tis agoras.

Competition will come to us sooner or later. It's better we
get used to it sooner, and prepare accordingly, rather than
having to scramble later and, once again, get left behind.

-Manolio

kostas yannakopoulos

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Feb 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/4/97
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RE: Xrhsimopoiei kaneis MS Exchange gia to email?

Geia soy Niko,
ki egw xrhsimopoiw MS Exchange ki ektos apo ena problhma pou exw me to subject
line kata ta alla eimai euxaristhmenos.
Drag and drop, dunatothta dhmiourgias folders einai ta pio shmantika
xarakthristika. Apo th allh ta basika tou arxeia einai duo, ena gia ta
addresses kai ena gia ola ta emails (dhl. se opoia folders kai na briskontai).
Opote an to arxeio me ta emails ginei corrupted 'h pa9ei otidhpote einai
pi9anon na xaseis ola ta emails sou. Uparxei ena utility ths Microsoft pou
kanei recovery (Inbox Repair Tool) alla de me boh9hse kai polu otan prin apo
kammia dekaria meres exasa ta mails 3 mhnwn apo Hellas.

Oso gia to oti einai memory hungry, auto einai alh9eia, egw to trexw me 16 MB
Ram kai den exw problhma. Ara s' ayto exei dikio o Dhmhtrhs, alla oson afora
to Windows Messaging, auto 9ewreitai apo th Microsoft ws update kai oxi patch
kai kata ta legomena tous einai pio grhgoro, pio eurwsto kai ligotero
apaithtiko ws pros th mnhmh.
To Internet Mail pou anaferei o allos Nikos einai diaforetiko mail client (ki
auto kalo).
Shmeiwse oti to problhma mou einai oti xanetai to subject line ston apodekth,
ALLA den exei parathrh9ei apo kanena allo xrhsth, apo oti mou lene apo to
Microsoft Network tou opoiou eimai melos.

Oti allo 9eleis edw eimai!
Kostas

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From: The Hellenic Discussion List on behalf of Nick Gavrielatos
Sent: 01 February 1997 19:47
To: HEL...@AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Xrhsimopoiei kaneis MS Exchange gia to email?

Re paidia, kserw polloi xrhsimopoioun Eudora gia na stelnoun/diabazoun
mail, alloi Pegasus, alloi elm tou Unix klp klp...

Yparxei kaneis na paizei me to gnwsto kai yparxon sta Win 95 san client
Microsoft Exhange? Aplws Qelw na rwthsw thn gnwmh tou/ths...

Nikos Gavrielatos
To Sixameno Plasma
ni...@matrix.kapatel.gr

kostas yannakopoulos

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Feb 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/4/97
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RE: Erwthsi * Efhmerides

Wx,wx Thano anabeis fwties,
auth den einai erwthsh, einai kalesma gia makria syzhthsh sthn Hellas, me
mpolikes antipara9eseis.
Pantws apo tis polles apoceis pou 9a deis eilikrina elpizw na bgaleis akrh.
Alh9eia posa xronia leipeis gia na 3erw/oyme apo poy n' arxisoyme.

Filika,
Kostas
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From: The Hellenic Discussion List on behalf of Thanos Voudouris
Sent: 03 February 1997 22:08
To: HEL...@AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Erwthsi * Efhmerides

Paidia,

Leipw arketa xronia apo Ellada kai twra pou exei ena swro efhmerides
gia diabasma sto internet, den 3erw ti na protopistepsw.

Qa parakalousa an mporei kapoios 'h kapoia na kanei mia lista me tis
Ellhnikes Efhmerides kai dipla na grafei ti politiko coma/apopseis
yposthrizei h ka9e efhmerida.
An ginetai kai mia mikrh protash pou na ka9reftizei thn efhmerida
gia to yliko pou parousiazei.

Eyxaristw,
Thanos
___________________________________________________________________
__|__~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanos (apo to spiti tou Capital Porky '95)
| ~~~~~~~~~~~ tha...@vlsi.gsfc.nasa.gov
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HELLAS_W3 http://www.Greece.org/hellas

kostas yannakopoulos

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Feb 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/4/97
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RE: Erwthsi * Efhmerides
Symplhrwnw dipla sto Giwrgo
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From: The Hellenic Discussion List on behalf of HyperLEX (George A. Stathis)
Sent: 04 February 1997 20:38
To: HEL...@AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: Erwthsi * Efhmerides

>
>Loipon, mexri twra exw mazepsei ta akolou9a. An kapoios 9elei
>na pros9esei/dior9wsei kati...
>
>Eleutheros Tupos --- N.D. (de3ia) Nai. Htan diey9ynths o Rizos,
paramenei laspwdhs sto styl ths Ayrianhs.
>Adesmeutos Tupos --- N.D. (de3ia) anti-Ebertikh fra3ia (Dimitris=
Rizos)
>Apogeumatinh --- N.D. (de3ia) klassikh N.D. Prwtoi titloi :paradosh
stoys temaxismoys ptwmatwn.
>Bradyynh --- N.D. (de3ia) klassikh N.D. (den 3erw an...
ekleise?) :-) Nomizw oti h Akropolh einai ayth poy ekleise.
>
>Ta Nea --- Pasok (aristera) oxi akribws. Autokratoria Sir=
Lamprakh . ֔, filopasokikh
>Aurianh --- Pasok (aristera) oxi akribws. Analoga me symferonta.
Pollh Lasph. Meta apo diafwnies kai katinies me Lianh xtypoyse to Pasok. Twra
den 3erw. Aytokratoria Koyrh.
>Eleu8erotupia --- Pasok (aristera) OXI. Ane3arthth kentro-aristera.
Tegopoulos (kai toy Mega) Filopasokikh palia me motto: Sthrizoume thn Allagh,
elegxoyme thn E3oysia, meta to 90 nomizw to paizei pio ane3arthth. Einai h
efhmerida poy diabazotan pio poly sta E3arxeia, kyriws logw Botsh (bl. Pol.
Paraskhnia), epishs h protimwmenh apo th 17N efhmerida gia anakoinwseis klp.
>Eleutheros --- Pasok (aristera) ANTI8ETA. La.i.kistikh pteryga 100%
N.D.
>
>Pontiki --- KKE OXI bebaia. Teinei pros ta aristera.
SATIRIKH efhmerida. Aristeroanarxokataolwnsasgrafwstapaliamou klp.
>Rizospasths --- KKE NAI, "epishmo organo tou KKE, to komma sou
lae..."
>Logos --- KKE OXI KA8OLOU!!! PASOK 100%!!! Isws kai
"DHKKI"-den 3erw...
>
>Ka8hmerinh --- Alafouzos (sxetika kalh) OXI. De3ioula, _orismenes_
sthles kales. 3enerwth. Poly a3iopisth omws an kai perase trikymies. De 9a
elega de3ia an kai leipw ki egw kairo apo Ellada. Kalo en9eto th Kyriakh. Mazi
me thn Eley9erotypia exei "e3ax9ei" sto exwteriko.
>
>Ependuthsm --- Oikonomikh ane3arthth
>Bhma --- Ane3arthth, oikonomikh KA8OLOU ANE3ARTHTH.
Kentrwa-Organo Lamprakh. ֔, alla blepeis poikila ar9ra. Plwriths, Marinos
(mpliax) klp. Mono Kyriakh, polles selides, polla en9eta.

Kyriakatikh (Eley9erotypia): Me to gnwsto Info, htan pio filopasokikh panta
kai ligo pio light alla kai edw arketa ar9ra kai polles synentey3eis
>
>Fws --- Sport, Efhmerida gayrwn
k© alles a9lhtikes alla ... bariemai !

Fysika den tis diabazw oles, kai den 3erw... Yparxei kai to PARON, to
LOIPON, to ONOMA,
den 3erw an yparxei to STAR. Psaxnw gia mia pio kalh apo thn
"Eleu8erotypia" alla DEN
briskw... Kai mia kainourgia:

>E3OUSIA --- Mallon KYBERNHTIKH, PASOKO-fernei...


Giwrgos

Kostas

kostas yannakopoulos

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Feb 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/5/97
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Mallon den perase ,to 3anastelnw

E3ormhsh -----PASOK To epishmo organo toy kinhmatos

>Logos --- KKE OXI KA8OLOU!!! PASOK 100%!!! Isws kai
"DHKKI"-den 3erw...
>
>Ka8hmerinh --- Alafouzos (sxetika kalh) OXI. De3ioula, _orismenes_
sthles kales. 3enerwth. Poly a3iopisth omws an kai perase trikymies. De 9a
elega de3ia an kai leipw ki egw kairo apo Ellada. Kalo en9eto th Kyriakh. Mazi
me thn Eley9erotypia exei "e3ax9ei" sto exwteriko.
>
>Ependuthsm --- Oikonomikh ane3arthth
>Bhma --- Ane3arthth, oikonomikh KA8OLOU ANE3ARTHTH.
Kentrwa-Organo Lamprakh. ֔, alla blepeis poikila ar9ra. Plwriths, Marinos
(mpliax) klp. Mono Kyriakh, polles selides, polla en9eta.

Kyriakatikh (Eley9erotypia) --- Me to gnwsto Info, htan pio filopasokikh panta
kai ligo pio light apo thn Eley/pia alla kai edw arketa ar9ra kai polles

Spyros Dascaleas

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Feb 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/6/97
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Sxedon 6 to prwi, 3enyxtismenos 2 bradia xarh twn (&=A3$%^$$ e3etasewn gia t=
o
(*=A3"!%$%^"! MBA, stelnw ena tragoydi sth lista, to teleytaio mexri na
gyrisw apo Ellada se 2 bdomades. Afierwmeno e3airetika sth syntrofisa
Gianna (Gianna, feygw ayrio opote den prolabaineis na me skotwseis poy
apokalypsa thn ideologikh soy taytish me ton Trotski). Ena tragoydi apo th
Farantoyrh, stixoyrgo / syn8eth den 3erw, an 3erei kaneis as moy to steilei
(8a eimai se nomail apo to apogeyma shmera btw)...


San to metanasth


San to metanasth sth dikh soy Gh
Mera nyxta lyneis - deneis thn plhgh
Ki ola gyrw 3ena
Ki ola petrwmena
Kai den 3hmerwnei na'r8ei h xaraygh
Ki ola gyrw 3ena
Ki ola petrwmena
Kai den 3hmerwnei na'r8ei h xaraygh

Straggis' h zwh soy poy aimoragei
Ka8e wra tromos, ponos kai kraygh
Kai s'akoyn oi 3enoi
Ki o aderfos swpainei
Ax den einai allh pio ba8ia plhgh
Kai s'akoyn oi 3enoi
Ki o aderfos swpainei
Ax den einai allh pio ba8ia plhgh


Syrma ki allo syrma kai xontro gyali
Matwse o hlios thn anatolh
Klais ki anastenazeis=20
Leyteria fwnazeis
Ma h elpida mayro, apiasto poyli
Klais ki anastenazeis
Leyteria fwnazeis
Ma h elpida mayro apiasto poyli...


Spyros--------------------------------------------
Most civilisation is based on cowardice. It's so easy to civilise by
teaching cowardice. You water down the standards which would lead to
bravery. You restrain the will. You regulate the appetites. You fence in
the horizons. You make a law for every movement. You deny the existence of
chaos. You teach even the children to breathe slowly. You tame.

The emperor Leto Atreides II

kostas yannakopoulos

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Feb 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/8/97
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Costa, prwta prwta prepei OPWSDHPOTE na kaneis deytero profile. S' auto 9a
diale3eis ws services :Microsoft Network Online Service
Microsoft Fax
Kata th diadikasia dhmioyrgias toy profile 9a soy zhthsei o wizard poy 9es na
einai to address book : DEN 9' alla3eis to folder (synh9ws einai C:/Exchange)
alla to onoma
p.x. mailbox1.pab
To idio 9a kaneis kai gia to personal folders
p.x mailbox1.pst
9a deis oti sto C:/Exchange 9a exei telika 4 files (dyo PAB kai dyo PST
extensions).

Telos sto Options/Tool/General 9a kaneis check to <Prompt for a profile to be
used>.
Ola ayta shmainoyn oti ka9e fora poy 9a fortwneis to MS Exchange 9a soy zhta
profile kai analoga se poio profile exeis mpei 9a exeis diaforetiko address
book kai personal folders.

An katalaba kala, esy ekanes deytero profile alla de dhmiourghses 3exwrista
address kai folders arxeia. An pali DEN katalaba kala, 3anasteile email, edw
eimaste!

Kostas
se-m'-exei-phdh3ei-kai-mena-h-Microsoft-mode
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From: The Hellenic Discussion List on behalf of Costa Flocas
Sent: 07 February 1997 15:33
To: HEL...@AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: MS Exchange help!

Fwsthres tou MS Exchange:

Prosfata eixe ginei mia suzhthsh gia to MS Exchange, pou me to patch apo =
to www.windows95.com ginetai Windows Messaging (to ekana, DEN eida kai =
kamia idiaiterh diafora) klp, klp...

Ane3arthta ap' auto, exw mia erwthsh gia osous 3eroun:

PWS pros8etei kaneis ena address list (oxi distribution list, dhladh =
groups me pollous recipients of emails sto yparxon address book), alla =
ena deutero address book all together?

8elw dhladh na exw ena address book gia tis internet dieu8unseis mou, =
kai ena allo address book gia tis dieu8unseis fax. Pws kanei kaneis =
loipon CREATE ena deytero address book? To paidepsa apo 'dw, to paidepsa =
apo 'kei, tipota. To windows95.com san solution proteinei na =
dhmiourghsei kaneis 2 active profiles, ena gia ta fax kai ena gia ta =
internet emails (mhpws epeidh epitrepetai ENA address book per =
profile?). OMWS, otan paei kaneis sto address book dialog, de3ia epanw =
sou dinei MEN th dynatothta me pull-down menu na diale3eis address list, =
alla otan kaneis pull down, ENA available address list sou dinei, to =
yparxon! Phga kai sta Tools Menu/Services/Personal Address Book, alla =
telika auto einai mono gia na kaneis add to SERVICE san service, ki oxi =
ena deytero address book!

Ap' to control panel/Mail to mono pou mporeis na kaneis einai =
dhmiourghseis ena allo profile...

GAMWTO! Mporei na mou pei kanei pws ginetai???????????????????

Thanks,
cf
se-exw-ph3ei-pleon-tou-deontos-mode, =
boh8eiste-kale-ton-tyflo-boh8eiste-kale-ton-aomato!

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