As police moved in, the grenade went off. One hostage, a 25-year-old
woman, was in critical condition and two others were listed as
serious after the violent end to the four-hour ordeal, broadcast live
from inside the family's apartment.
The raid began two hours after escaped convict Sorin Matei, 27,
released one of the hostages. Shots were heard and a few minutes
later the hand grenade detonated.
"I have chosen a road and there is no return," Matei told Athens'
Skai television station shortly before the raid.
Matei allowed two of the hostages, 25-year-old Amalia Ginaki and her
mother Soultana, 58, to make appeals over the telephone.
"He has tied us all together and is clenching the hand grenade," the
daughter said.
Matei had demanded a sports car, $500,000, a first aid kit, and
amphetamines.
After the raid, Matei and the hostages were taken to hospital. At
least six police officers, including the chief of the Greek police
were also injured by the hand grenade.
The operation took place when Skai anchorman Nikos Evangelatos, who
was negotiating with Matei, cut away for a commercial break.
In a broadcast without precedent in Greece, Matei rambled,
negotiated, issued demands, and at one point hung up before calling
Evangelatos again.
On Sept. 6, Matei used a hand grenade to take a police officer
hostage for almost eight hours before security forces released him.
He fled in a taxi and police were unable to track him down until
Wednesday, when they located him hiding inside an apartment building
near the capital's red light district.
But Matei, a drug addict who admitted during the standoff that he
was high on cocaine, managed to elude police, sliding down a skylight
and bursting into the family's apartment.
A former mental patient, Matei escaped from a police holding facility
last July. At the time he had already spent nearly a decade in jail,
serving sentences for attempted murder, and a series of armed
robberies. He had nearly 25 yeas left to serve.
###
>> The operation took place when Skai anchorman Nikos Evangelatos, who
>> was negotiating with Matei, cut away for a commercial break.
> W 0eoi !
> Favtazomai 0a triksav ta para0yra (tnleoptika kai mn)...
> Petros
Malakies grafei Petran o lebevtns tou praktoreiou ..... O "Eisaggelatos"
epairve ka8' oln tnv diarkeia tns suvomilias tou me tov Sorin, odngies ap'
tov B' uparxngo tns EL.AS. pou ntav stov Ska.i. H epixeirnsn dev egive otav
o Ska.i. diekoye gia diafnmiseis, apla otav n astuvomia ekave tnv
epixeirisn, o Euaggelatos avagkastnke va diakoyei ..... Flomwsame stnv
malakia autes tis duo meres !!!
giwrgos
> Tufla va'xei to ``COPS'' !!! Auto loipov apavtaei to erwtnma tou
> Flokou: ti apasxolei tov veoellnva (giati gia va tou to deixvouv
> snmaivei oti to zntaei, etsi dev eivai sta fri-market kolpa ?).
Petro, gia soul-searching pou 8es, DEN eimai o katallhlos...
Alla an hsoun esy o SKAI ki eixes sthn allh grammh auton, TI 8a ekanes?
Kai gia poious logous, bebaia, etsi? Mas diafwtizeis, w, Obi-1-Kenobi?
cf
to problima einai oti ginan apanota lathi, me apotelesma na katstrafi (isos
kai xathi) i zoi athoon anthropon.
Avto pou katalaba ego, einai oti i astinomia itan bebei oti i xirobombida
itan pseftiki, opote koustoumaristike oli i igesia tis astinomias kai pige
gia na fotografi apo tis kameres parea me ton silifthenta eglimatia. an i
epixirisi ginotan merikes ores argotera kai oloi kimonotusan (endexomenos
kai o roumanos), tha xanan tin doja apo ta plana me to "skotomeno therio".
filika
Stelios
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Hellenic Discussion List [mailto:HEL...@lists.psu.edu]On
> Behalf Of Costa Flocas
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 10:44 AM
> To: HEL...@lists.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: Live on TV: Fugitive Takes Four Hostage with Hand Grenade
>
>
La8os Stelio. Giati kai tnv alln fora pou o Sorin eixe piasei omnro, ekeivo
tov astuvomiko ap' tnv Xalkida, o Ska.i. (kai oi alloi sta8moi) eixe
suvexomevn zwvtavn kaluyn (opou, mporei mev va mnv eixe suzntnsn me tov
kakopoio, 8eamatikotnta omws eixe e3 isou megaln) kai par' ola auta n
astuvomia evnrgnse polu or8a. Apla autn tnv fora, mplextnkav la8os av8rwpoi
se la8os douleies kai gi' auto egive telika mpaxalo .....
> to problima einai oti ginan apanota lathi, me apotelesma na katstrafi
(isos
> kai xathi) i zoi athoon anthropon.
Sumfwvw, me mia evstasn. Dev egivav apavwta la8n opws les, eva movo la8os
egive, alla ntav moiraio !!!
> Avto pou katalaba ego, einai oti i astinomia itan bebei oti i xirobombida
> itan pseftiki, opote koustoumaristike oli i igesia tis astinomias kai
pige
> gia na fotografi apo tis kameres parea me ton silifthenta eglimatia. an i
> epixirisi ginotan merikes ores argotera kai oloi kimonotusan (endexomenos
> kai o roumanos), tha xanan tin doja apo ta plana me to "skotomeno
therio".
Dev 3erw av pngav koustoumarismevoi movo kai movo gia tnv do3a, ekeivo pou
3erw eivai oti ta pragmata dev eivai akribws opws mas ta periegrayav oi
tnleoptikoi sta8moi kai oi efnmerides kai pws kapoioi ap' autous pou (gia
mia akoma fora, opws kai tnv prongoumevn) egivav nrwes sta matia mas,
mallov dev to a3izouv !!!
Kalo sabbatokuriako
giwrgos
Oxi.
To "Sir, I'm sorry, I just work here!" mentality den 8a boh8ouse sthn
periptwsh, den symfwneis? Alla ti rwtaw, mallon oxi. Esy bebaia to
exeis sigouro oti autos DEN 8a ta epairne sthn krana kai den 8a tous
skotwne olous giati den tou 'kanes to xathri... I see...
cf
> mpros loipov, asydwsias to avagvwsma...kai vai, av eisai o SKAI kai
> se parei tromokratns kai arxiseis ta mpalamoutia apo to tnle-para0yro
> mesw tou upallnlou sou pou (apo oti katalabaivw) DEN eivai forensic
> psychologist, prepei va sou katalogistouv eu0nves ws suveisferwv sto
> makeleio...
Sth 8ewria, nai, symfwnw ki egw, AN ONTWS sthn pra3h esy (o ekastote
Euaggelatos) ta gamhses th mana me ton Roumano sto thlefwno and he went
postal...
Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh OMWS, o sygkekrimenos Euaggelatos (pou
fysika DEN HTAN MONOS TOU sto studio, Peeeeeetro!!!), DEN ta gamhse th
mana, ta phge PARA POLY KALA, kai an mh ti allo, ka8ysterhse ena symban
pou mporei na eixe ginei grogorotera ki edwse thn eukairia stous
*armodious* na skeftoun kai na pra3oun, pou katw apo alles syn8hkes,
DEN 8a eixan, mallon, auth thn polyteleia tou xronou!!!
Petro, autoi oi ARMODIOI ta gamhsan th mana, OXI o Euaggelatos (& sia),
sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Alla to gegonos oti telika ONTWS to
malakisan to 8ema, den shmainei oti ferei meridio eu8ynhs o SKAI .h. o
Euaggelatos!
> Sixtiri pia me ta caveats...
Auto, 3anapes' to! Alla, you surprise me! Not typical of you! ;-)
> Eipes oti oi Ellnves eleu0eroi epaggelmaties pou gurvouv, exovtas dei
> diafores katastaseis sta ekswterika pou eivai aksies mimnsns, 0a
> apotelesouv
> tnv arxn tns allagns diaforwv suvn0eiwv kai tnv kalytereusn tns
> Elladas.
> Stn suzntnsn peri prosbolas vte...
>
> Petros
A, etsi malista. Oi ELLHNES eleu8eroi epaggelmaties. (Isws na
pare3hghsa to "3enofertoi" prin...)
Koita, believe it or not, egw to blepw sthn pra3h. Otan loipon egw, to
x8esino skato (by experience standards, no irony intended here) xtypaw
douleies isa3ia me 100plasia megalyteres antagwnistikes etairies apo th
dikh mou kai tis pairnw, SIGOURA den tis pairnw gia ta matia mou (pou,
enta3ei, wraia einai, alla eipame...) ;-) Apla, egw eixa thn kalh tyxh
na gnwrisw enan allo tropo epaggeles8ai kai customer service sthn OUZA,
pou, pistepse me, einai h eidopoios diafora gia pollous apo tous
pelates mou. Kai sigoura den eimai o monos, exw ki alla paradeigmata
filwn kai gnwstwn, apla gia mena mporw na milhsw me apolyth sigouria.
To shmantikotero de, einai oti yparxoun polloi "pelates" e3w pou
siga-siga arxizoun na bariountai to montelo, "Re, poios einai o
kollhtos mas pou poulaei epipla gia na pame n' agorasoume?" kai pernane
sto "Poios kanei thn kalyterh douleia, overall, sto na poulaei epipla?
Ekei prepei na pame..."
Auth h allagh nootropias Petro, opws antilambanesai, den ginetai ap' th
mia mera sthn allh, gia ena OLOKLHRO kratos! Safws kai h pleiopshfia
twn ellhnwn akomh me ton 1o tropo douleuei, alla auto allazei. Isws,
bebaia, na mhn prolaboume emeis sth zwh mas na th doume auth th
metastrofh oloklhrwmenh, alla exei ksekinhsei.
Auto ennousa.
cf
> E kai ? ki egw edw sto grafeio mou dev eimai movos mou, exw tov
> Xristo
> apo ta deksia mou va me ka0odngei...
Petro, DEN EIXE ton Xrhsto dipla tou... To post tou Bobolou to
diabases?
> Eleos re Kwsta, ELEOS...apo ta liga pou exw diabasei oso pio grngora
> givei to vtou toso pio kala apotelesmata 0a exei mias kai o kakopoios
> dev 0a exei tov kairo va skeftei pou brisketai, ti va kavei av givei
> vtou, va orgavwsei to avastatwmevo tou myalo...bale apo to auti kai
E, na, blepeis loipon pou eisai la8os? Mporei etsi na leei h 8ewria,
alla o *sygkekrimenos* Roumanos KAI organwmenos htan, KAI nhfalios htan
(an kai xa.i. sthn koka), KAI poly, MA POLY diabasmenos... Ti na
kanoume, EIXE peira o an8rwpos, oh, and--not to mention--a fucking
GRENADE sta xeria tou re pousth mou!!! Ki esy mou les twra 8a ton
enoxlouse an o Euaggelatos tou 'baze tis fwnes!!! Ti les re Petro
twra??? Ta pisteueis auta pou grafeis? Gi' auto sou lew, kala ta
manuals, but...
> tis striglies tou Euagellatou (tov exw dei polles fores va avebazei
> tous tovous epitndes gia effe'), kai dev mou faivetai api0avo o kakos
> va ekave oti ekave afou kourdistike apo to olo tsirko (fasaria, laos,
> apeksw, Euagellatos sto auti tou).
Na sou fainetai api8ano, giati o enas omhros pou htan mesa eipe
argotera oti o Roumanos tous fer8hke san Kyrios!!! Ta phre sthn anw
kraniakh xwra otan egine to ntou, OXI apo to Euaggelato. TI NA KANOUME?
E-T-S-I E-G-I-N-E. Period. Fact. Den egine to mpaxalo e3 aitias tou
Euaggelatou, XWNEPSE TO EPITELOUS! Mpla, mpla, mpla, kales oi 8ewries
sou, alla ta gegonota tis diapseudoun. Den sou ftaei o SKAI gi' auto!
> Kai sto katw-katw, giati va mnv meivei n grammn avoiktn gia kavav
> epaggelmatia psyxologo ?
Re Petro, anarwth8hkes pote sou an o Roumanos 8a GOUSTARE na milhsei,
.h. na diapragmateutei me enan "epaggelmatia" psyxologo??? PROSE3E:
ston idaniko sou kosmo, ETSI 8a eprepe na ginei, symfwnw ki egw! Plhn
omws, DEN HTAN OI IDANIKES SYN8HKES prox8es to brady, poso mallon, oi
textbook-case circumstances for a hostage-situation, gia na efarmoseis
to manual sou!!!
Sto katw-katw, o Roumanos ekane call ta shots, whether you like it or
not. Autos eixe th xeir/da xwmenh sto panteloni ths kopelas! E, loipon,
an sou parousiastei tetoia periptwsh esena (na eisai Euaggelatos
dhladh) se symbouleuw na tou peis, "OK mister, let's hear what you have
to say" kai na pas glyka-glyka me ta nera tou, MPAS kai kalmarei kai
den ta kanei giampala, GIATI STO KATW-KATW TO 'XEI GRAMMENO PRO POLLOU
TO MANUAL SOU!!!
cf
Kitsos
File/filn esteiles mnvuma sumparastasns
sto: anes...@girch1.med.uth.tmc.edu ???
Zntnses apo to Lndaki va sugxwresei tov Xrnstara?
Av vai, xilia euxaristw. Av oxi, mnv to avabaleis allo.
ns
> Re Floko exeis pa0ei malakyvsn egkefalou mou faivetai...me rwtnses
> ``av
> nmouv o SKAI'' re dev me rwtnses av nmouv o Euaggelatos. Ki egw sou
> apavtnsa pws 0a apavtousa ws SKAI...ta blakeies twra mou aradiazeis ?
Egw mporei na exw pa8ei malakynsh Petro mou, alla esy SIGOURA exeis
ginei teleiws amerikanaki. Ki ws kalo amerikanaki, se kati tetoies
periptwseis eisai "fyge kako ap' ta matia mou". E3 ou kai to "Sir, I
just work here!"
2on, EGW lew blakeies .h. ESY? Dhladh, o Euaggelatos aphnthse thn
klhsh? Mpa? Swpa re! To paizei kai grammateas twra mhpws? Kai telika,
diaforopoieitai to apotelesma an thn apantouse thn klhsh o Euaggelatos
.h. h grammateas tou? O Euaggelatos TI einai ekei? Touristas? Mhpws
ekproswpei ton SKAI??? Ante re Petro, mas flomwses pali.
> Kai ti sxesn re frouto exei ti 0a ekave outwsi allws o ``roumavos''
me
> to
> ti POLICY (gia tetoia 0emata) prepei va exw egw ws SKAI ?????? Telika
> eiste tragika asteioi sto Elladistav.
Frouto eisai kai fainesai. 2on, les oti o SKAI 8a eprepe na exei
*Policy* (ntoup!!!) gia tetoiou eidous contigencies!!! Nai? Sobara? Kai
ti policy--esy pou 8a ta proeblepes ola bebaia--8a eixes an hsoun o
head-cheese gia thn periptwsh ptwshs komhth sth gh? Mhpws 8a to eixes
afhsei e3w auto?
Ti les re Petro... KAI NA EIXES POLICY RE, 8A TO EKANES ENFORCE
TOOOOOOOOSO EUKOLA EKEINH TH STIGMH OTAN 3EREIS OTI APO THN APANTHSH
SOU KREMONTAI PI8ANWN ZWES??????
Isws, telika, Petro, EKEI AKRIBWS eggytai kai h diafora
Ellados-Amerikhs. Ekei aplws 8a (prospa8ousate toulaxiston) na
energhsete "by the book" (pou ki auto exei a3ia, de lew), enw edw akomh
yparxei kai ligo an8rwpia kai prwtoboulia kai mporei na katalabei
kapoios oti OLA ta pragmata DEN kaloupiarontai TOSO eukola. To kaloupi
einai h eukolh lysh Petro gia tous mh skeptomenous... Ti kanw an me
parei o tromokraths? See manual, page 235, section i, paragraph 3e...
> va avarwtn0w av ovtws oi ksevofertoi eleu0eroi eppagelmaties 0a eivai
> (opws mas les) evausma kalyterwv nmerwv gia tnv Ellada.
??? Auto efyge teleiws over my head... Gia spasta kai 3anarh3ta Petro
mou... Ti eipa egw akribws? Oti oi 3enoi eleu8eroi epaggelmaties einai
h aparxh mias kalyterhs Elladas?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
cf
> katarxin o telefteos pou fteei einai o evagelatos. Omos i dimosiotita
piese
> tin (anikani) astinomia kai akoma xirotera, kapioi astinomikoi tin idan
os
> efkeria na ginoun iroes kai na paroun piso tin xameni timi tis
astinomias.
> dioti min jexname oti mpori na xiristikan to proigoumeno peristatiko
> kalitera (den thrinisame thimata), alla pali eixan jeftilisti apo ton
> drapeti. an eixan energisi sosta, proton tha eixe silifthi stin xalkida
kai
> devteron meta tin apeleftherosi tou omirou tha ton eixan silabi.
Koita Stelio, egw ekeivo pou lew eivai oti dev eixav kammia douleia o
arxngos ki' o uparxngos tns astuvomias ekei, tnv stigmn pou upeu8uvos gia
tnv oln upo8esn 8a eprepe va eivai o dioikntns twv EKAM. Etsi leei o
kavovismos tns astuvomias, etsi givetai pavta. Ara oi "klares" tns EL.AS.
dev eixav kammia douleia stnv Axarvwv kai polu perissotero, dev eixav
kaveva logo v' avalabouv tnv sxediasn tns epixeirnsns. Av to akouses, otav
o Basilopoulos apofasise to "vtou", o dioikntns twv EKAM avtedrase kai
malista evtova. O av8rwpos eixe to sxedio tou, to opoio, eimai apolutws
sigouros, oti 8a epefere ta avamevomeva apotelesmata. Allwste, av eixav
afnsei tov idio av8rwpo to idio apogeuma va kavei tnv douleia tou, xwris va
empodizetai apo eisaggeleis kai paratrexamevous kai pali n istoria 8a eixe
teleiwsei ekei. Alla prepei va exoume oloi logo epi pavtos epistntou, etsi
eimaste emeis ..... Oso, telos, gia tov Euaggelato, to movo pou mporw va
sou pw eivai va sugkriveis tnv stasn tou stnv arxn tns "tnlefwvikns
suvomilias", me tnv stasn tou meta tnv afi3n tou B' uparxngou stov sta8mo.
Tipote allo ......
>> Sumfwvw, me mia evstasn. Dev egivav apavwta la8n opws les, eva movo
la8os
>> egive, alla ntav moiraio !!!
> metrao mono merika apo ta lathi, ta pio profani. esy anaferese mono sto
> lathos simperasma, oti nomizan pos i xirovombida itan plasti.
> proto lathos, oti den kataferan na ton silaboun sto diamerisma tou.
Sou avefera parapavw.
> devtero lathos oti den ejantlisan ta perithoria na mini me ton minimum
> arithmo omiron prin epemboun. o nearos isxirizete oti eixe pisi ton
roumano
> na afisi eleftheri tin araboniastikia tou kai na mini ekinos os omiros.
O vearos mporei va isxurizetai o,ti 8elei. Ki' egw sou lew oti o vearos tnv
"ekave" ap' to para8uro, molis eide tous EKAMites va mpaivouv, afnvovtas
tnv idia tou tnv guvaika sto eleos tou Sorin. Sou leei tipote auto ???
> trito lathos. akoma kai an htan 99% bebeoi oti i xirovombida itan plasti,
> pali den eprepe na riskaroun. Exoume di oloklira aeroplana na allazoun
poria
> me aeropirates ousiastika aoplous. den exi dikeoma kanis na peji me tin
zoi
> athoon, prokimenou na ton paroun stin tileorasi na forai tis xiropedes se
> enan kakopio.
Edw exeis dikio. Htav to movo (kai moiraio bebaia) la8os tns astuvomias.
Para to gegovos oti, akoma kai gi' auto, akougovtai polla.
> tetarto lathos. eprepe na eixan frontisi ston xoro na briskonte mono oi
> apolitos aparetiti. oute ta asthenofora den mporousan na plisiasoun.
> perisotera lathoi nomizo katametra ekinos pou ta xreothike me dilosis tou
> stis simerines efimerides, o arxigos tis astinomias.
To tetragwvo ntav apokleismevo apo dimoiries twv MAT. Ta as8evofora dev
mporousav va plnsiasouv giati, e3 arxns, eva fortngaki twv EKAM eixe epi
toutou kleisei to stevo, gia va mnv mporouv va pairvouv makruva plava oi
kameres tns tnleorasns. Auto to fortngaki empodize kai suvexise va
empodizei mias kai o odngos tou traumatistnke .....
>> Dev 3erw av pngav koustoumarismevoi movo kai movo gia tnv do3a, ekeivo
pou
>> 3erw eivai oti ta pragmata dev eivai akribws opws mas ta periegrayav oi
>> tnleoptikoi sta8moi kai oi efnmerides kai pws kapoioi ap' autous pou
(gia
>> mia akoma fora, opws kai tnv prongoumevn) egivav nrwes sta matia mas,
>> mallov dev to a3izouv !!!
> ego prosopika den blepo kanenan "iroa" peran isos tou drapeti pou tha exi
> gini pleon indalma tou ypokosmou. I astinomia kataskevase allon ena
"thrilo"
> (o roxamis tha ta exi pari sto kranio pou tou kleboun tin doja), ton opio
> boithise na ... pari proagogi kai na gini kai dolofonos.
Hrwas egive o Ellnvo-roumavos pou e3e8ese tnv astuvomia, nrwas egive o
Euaggelatos pou avtikatestnse tnv astuvomia, nrw.i.da egive n mntera tou
Ellnvo-roumavou pou diaolostile tnv astuvomia kai tnv opoia ftasame sto
snmeio v' akoume s' ola ta deltia eidnsewv tnv Tetartn to bradu, tnv Pemptn
oln mera, tnv Paraskeun oln mera, to Sabbato oln mera ki' oln vuxta, x8es
oln mera, oln vuxta kai stov upvo mas (mias kai to Sabbato pe8ave o guios
tns), avti va akoume toulaxistov ws prwtn eidnsn, plnrofories gia tnv ugeia
tns kopellas pou traumatistnke sobara, ka8ws kai gia tnv ugeia twv duo
astuvomikwv pou eivai e3 isou sobara. Mnpws autoi dev eivai nrwes, n' apla
"dev poulave" ?????
> kalo sabbatokiriako kai ... klista parathira kai portes.
> Stelios
Ta leme,
giwrgos