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Asteras Amaliadas

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At 23:34 27/11/2000 +0200, Rocean wrote:
> > KNitiko sundromo: Na mplekoume ta mhla me ta portokalia, to gaidaro me th
> > grabata kai ta gamhsia me ta pathsia!
>
>Ta katw 'n ta pavw ..gamnsia...??? :-))

Autos exei beltiw8ei polu apo thn teleutaia fora pou ton eida! (-;

> >To podosfairo einai epaggelmatiko
> > (DUSTUXWS), opote oles oi omades einai podosfairikes anwnumes etaireies,
> > ara kai kapoios prepei na einai idiokthths tous! Se ti auto amaurwnei to
> > Timhmeno Prosfugiko parel8on tou Sullogou (otan malista o entonos
> > prosfugikos xarakthras ths omadas einai toso emfanhs);
>
>Av esu blepeis sxesn tou parel8ovtos me to parov, egw
>paw paso... Allwste egw dev 3erw apo ...podosfairo...

Koita, uposthrizeis mia omada me Kwnstantinopolitikes kataboles pou exase
sxedon teleiws ton prosfugiko ths xarakthra (mia kai apekthse pio polu...
makedonikh suneidhsh) kai nomizeis oti to idio kanan oloi... Akou loipon:

Nai, egw blepw sxesh anamesa sto parel8on kai to parwn! Oxi aparaithta
stous paiktes h sthn dioikhsh (ki auto opws 8a deis den einai apoluto),
alla sigoura ston kosmo ths AEK. Otan kapoia mera, 8a pame parea sth
Skepasth (ti nomizes, mono oi KNites kanoun stratologhseis trabologwntas ta
filarakia tous sta Xestibal ths KNE "gia na akousoun Papakwnstantinou";),
kai tote, ela 3anarwta me, an uparxei sxesh anamesa sto parel8on kai to
paron, anamesa sthn prosfugia tou '22 kai sta nea paidia tou 2000! Otan 8a
deis tous Xrusomaurous Dikefalous ths Rwmaikhs Autokratorias kai tou
Oikoumenikou Patriarxeiou na anemizoun, otan 8a deis to panw pou leei: AEK
SHMAINEI PROSFUGIA 3ERIZOMENH!, h' me buzantina grammata "Nikac kata
barbarwn", otan analogisteis ti ekanan oi AEKtzhdes (dioikhsh, paiktes kai
Laos) tis maures meres tou brwmikou polemou kata ths Giougkoslabias, otan
ayifwntas tis bombes tou NATO epai3an mpalla mesa sto Beligradi, otan 8a
mpeis sto fouagie tou stadiou h' sto web site ths AEK, oxi mono to epishmo,
alla ws kai stou pio asxetou apo .html AEKtzh pou exei ftia3ei site gia thn
AEK, kai deis oti se ka8e prwth selida uparxei h Agia Sofia (XWRIS ta miara
tzamia), otan akouseis ta... "anegkefala ths Original" na tragoudane
bourkwmena "oi minaredes 8a xa8oune", tote 8a katalabeis ena kai mono
prama: Poso ba8eia rizomenh einai sthn yuxh tou ka8e AEKtzh h prosfugia! 78
xronia meta ton 3erizomo apo tis Patrogonikes Esties mas, emeis epimenoume
na leme olo perhfania oti eimaste prosfuges! Me ta matia ths yuxhs mas
blepoume ka8e mera thn Kwnstantinoupoli, kai panta brontofwnazoume: AEK
ZOUME STHN POLI NA SE DOUME! Uparxoun nomizeis polles omades pou na mporoun
na isxuristoun to idio;

As payoun loipon oi eirwnies kai oi xleuasmoi pou kata kairous ekto3euontai
sth lista (alla kai genikotera) gia to an h AEK einai Prosfugomana, apo
adaeis pou xleuazoun auto pou apla den ftanoun, den katalabainoun kai pou
pantelws agnooun! Oso de gia to an eimaste "Tourkoi"... Emas oxi mono den
mas xalaei na mas lete etsi, alla to eklambanoume kai ws Titlo Timhs, afou
gia akoma mia fora mas 8umizete thn Timhmenh mas Katagwgh, mia kai oi
prwtoi pou apokalesthkan "tourkosporoi" htan oi prosfuges papoudes mas, apo
tous dikous sas "ellhnofrones" kai "ellhnoprepeis" papoudes! Me to na mas
apokaleite 78 xronia twra "tourkous" sunteleite, xwris na to 8elete, akoma
pio polu sto desimo ths genias mas me autes twn progonwn mas!

>Rocean

Asteras Amaliadas

Rocean Spectrum

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From: Asteras Amaliadas <ast...@BTINTERNET.COM>
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To: <HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
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Subject: H Prosfugomana AEK


> Autos exei beltiw8ei polu apo thn teleutaia fora pou ton eida! (-;

Les va ftaiei oti metavasteusa stnv Ellada meta apo 25 xrovia stnv
...sosialistikn
Boulgaria??? :-))

> Koita, uposthrizeis mia omada me Kwnstantinopolitikes kataboles pou exase
> sxedon teleiws ton prosfugiko ths xarakthra (mia kai apekthse pio polu...
> makedonikh suneidhsh) kai nomizeis oti to idio kanan oloi... Akou loipon:

Poia makedovikn suveidnsn...???? Eva fasistiko suvw8nleuma exei givei
o kosmos tou PAOK... Toulaxistov o orgavwmevos...!!!

Dev eixa alln skasila re Astera va upostnrizw mia omada gia tis dn8ev
prosfugikes kataboles tns... Eite gia tis ...ftwxikes kataboles...
(blepe tnv "ftwxomava" tov Olumpiako)...

Egw exw givei PAOKtzns apo tnv omadara pou eixe kapote sto
mpasket... Tipota perissotero, tipota ligotero... Opws kapote eimouv
bazelos sto podosfairo, (apo ekeivn tnv omadara me Rotsa, Zaets
klp) mexri pou eipa as givw kai sto podosfairo
PAOKtzns, gia va mnv mperdeuomai... :-))
(tnv fagame kai tnv 4ara snmera apo tnv "ftwxomava" kai
usnxasame)


> Nai, egw blepw sxesh anamesa sto parel8on kai to parwn! Oxi aparaithta
> stous paiktes h sthn dioikhsh (ki auto opws 8a deis den einai apoluto),
> alla sigoura ston kosmo ths AEK. Otan kapoia mera, 8a pame parea sth
> Skepasth (ti nomizes, mono oi KNites kanoun stratologhseis trabologwntas
ta
> filarakia tous sta Xestibal ths KNE "gia na akousoun Papakwnstantinou";),

Exeis meivei polu pisw Astera... Egw paw sta Festibal gia v'akousw
"Evdelexeia"...!!! Allwste pote dev sumpa8nsa tov Papakwvstavtivou...

> kai tote, ela 3anarwta me, an uparxei sxesh anamesa sto parel8on kai to
> paron, anamesa sthn prosfugia tou '22 kai sta nea paidia tou 2000! Otan 8a
> deis tous Xrusomaurous Dikefalous ths Rwmaikhs Autokratorias kai tou
> Oikoumenikou Patriarxeiou na anemizoun, otan 8a deis to panw pou leei: AEK
> SHMAINEI PROSFUGIA 3ERIZOMENH!, h' me buzantina grammata "Nikac kata
> barbarwn", otan analogisteis ti ekanan oi AEKtzhdes (dioikhsh, paiktes kai
> Laos) tis maures meres tou brwmikou polemou kata ths Giougkoslabias, otan
> ayifwntas tis bombes tou NATO epai3an mpalla mesa sto Beligradi, otan 8a
> mpeis sto fouagie tou stadiou h' sto web site ths AEK, oxi mono to
epishmo,
> alla ws kai stou pio asxetou apo .html AEKtzh pou exei ftia3ei site gia
thn
> AEK, kai deis oti se ka8e prwth selida uparxei h Agia Sofia (XWRIS ta
miara
> tzamia), otan akouseis ta... "anegkefala ths Original" na tragoudane
> bourkwmena "oi minaredes 8a xa8oune", tote 8a katalabeis ena kai mono
> prama: Poso ba8eia rizomenh einai sthn yuxh tou ka8e AEKtzh h prosfugia!
78
> xronia meta ton 3erizomo apo tis Patrogonikes Esties mas, emeis epimenoume
> na leme olo perhfania oti eimaste prosfuges! Me ta matia ths yuxhs mas
> blepoume ka8e mera thn Kwnstantinoupoli, kai panta brontofwnazoume: AEK
> ZOUME STHN POLI NA SE DOUME! Uparxoun nomizeis polles omades pou na
mporoun
> na isxuristoun to idio;

Twra, ti sxesn exei n "prosfugomava" me ta buzavtia tous dikefalous kai
alles tetoies andies, movo esu 3ereis... Kai o Xristodoulos me auta
asxoleitai
alla dev eivai "prosfugopateras"...

Kai fusika dev mou apedei3es tnv sxesn tns AEK (sav podosfairikn omada)
me tnv prosfugia.... To av kapoios kosmos ka8etai kai asxoleitai me tnv
mpourdologia tou buzavtiou, xrnsimopoiovtas sav suvdetiko kriko mia
podosfairikn omada, auto dev apodukvuei tipota (kai eidika gia tnv
prosfugia)...

To movo pou apodukvuei ligo tnv 8ewria sou (kai upoklivomai stnv AEK) eivai
ekeivo to FOBERO
paixvidi sto Beligradi, evw oi NATOikes bombes peftave gurw... Egw pavtws
eixa
dakrusei me autn tnv ekplnktikn die8vistikn evergeia... Auto apo movo tou
eivai logos va giveis AEKtzns... Asxeta av ta upoloipa pou les mou prokalouv
avagoula...

> As payoun loipon oi eirwnies kai oi xleuasmoi pou kata kairous
ekto3euontai
> sth lista (alla kai genikotera) gia to an h AEK einai Prosfugomana, apo
> adaeis pou xleuazoun auto pou apla den ftanoun, den katalabainoun kai pou
> pantelws agnooun! Oso de gia to an eimaste "Tourkoi"... Emas oxi mono den
> mas xalaei na mas lete etsi, alla to eklambanoume kai ws Titlo Timhs, afou
> gia akoma mia fora mas 8umizete thn Timhmenh mas Katagwgh, mia kai oi
> prwtoi pou apokalesthkan "tourkosporoi" htan oi prosfuges papoudes mas,
apo
> tous dikous sas "ellhnofrones" kai "ellhnoprepeis" papoudes! Me to na mas
> apokaleite 78 xronia twra "tourkous" sunteleite, xwris na to 8elete, akoma
> pio polu sto desimo ths genias mas me autes twn progonwn mas!

Boulgaria re... Kai ta mualia sta kagkela... :-)))


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Asteras Amaliadas

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At 03:58 28/11/2000 +0200, Rocean Spectrum wrote:
>Twra, ti sxesn exei n "prosfugomava" me ta buzavtia tous dikefalous kai
>alles tetoies andies, movo esu 3ereis... Kai o Xristodoulos me auta
>asxoleitai alla dev eivai "prosfugopateras"...

Edw isxuei auto pou eipa se kapoio allo shmeio:

> As payoun loipon oi eirwnies kai oi xleuasmoi pou kata kairous

ekto3euontai [...] apo


> adaeis pou xleuazoun auto pou apla den ftanoun, den katalabainoun kai pou
> pantelws agnooun!

Einai klassiko KNitiko sundromo auto: Na arneisai thn sobarothta autou pou
den katalabaineis kai na gelas mazi tou!

Ti dhladh den mporeis na katalabeis; Giati to Buzantio kai o Dikefalos pou
auto sumbolizei, sxetizontai me thn Prosfugia; Anoije to biblio ths E'
Dhmotikou (Rwmaiikh & Buzantinh Istoria legontan otan -pro amnhmoneutwn
etwn- to diabaza), na katalabeis pou kollane auta! Alla afou den
kataalbaineis Istoria, na sto dwsw na to katalabeis se apla Ellhnika:

A.E.K.=A8lhtikh Enwsis Kwnstantinoupolews.

To "A8lhtikh" to katalabainoun kai oi polites ths LD Boulgarias, pame
parakatw twra. To "Enwsis" 8a pei oti h omada auth proerxetai apo sunenosh
prouparxontwn a8lhtikwn swmateiwn, auto pou sta Agglika leme "United". To
"Kwnstantinoupolews" leei apo poio meros tou sumpantos kosmou htan auta ta
swmateia pou enw8hkan, dhladh htan apo thn Kwnstantinoupoli (me kurio
trofodoth ths AEK, thn prwta8lhtria Tourkias prin thn Mikrasiatikh
Katastrofh, Pera Club, ellhniko a8lhtiko swmateio ths Kwnstantinoupolews).

Pame parakatw twra: Giati auta ta swmateia ths Kwnstantinopolews enw8hkan
kai eftia3an thn AEK sthn A8hna; Aplo einai: Oi an8rwpoi autoi pou htan se
autes tis omades, mazi me allo 1.5 ekatomuria Ellhnwn ekdiwxthkan apo tis
Patrogonikes Esties tous (auto sta ellhnika, akoma kai sta KNitika, legetai
"Prosfugia"). Hmmm. Kapou arxizei na fainetai to fws sto ba8os tou Tounel!
Etsi Rocean;

Pame twra parakatw... H Kwnstantinoupolis -leei to biblio ths E' Dhmotikou
ki oxi o prapagandisths Asteras- htan h Prwteuousa ths Patridas mas gia
1100 xronia (330-1453). Sth de patrida mas htan panta h Mikra Asia. Shmera
oute h Kwnstantinoupoli, oute h Mikra Asia anoikoun sthn Patrida mas, giati
apla oi an8rwpoi pou htan ekei ekdiwxthkan (auto to lene Prosfugia).

To Labaro ths Patridas mas kai ths Ekklhsias mas pou epishs edreue ekei
sthn Kwnstantinoupoli, htan o Xrusomauros Aetos. Auto einai kai to Emblhma
ths AEK ths omadas pou proerxetai apo tous 3erizomenous ths Kwnstantinoupolews.

Epishs (kai auto den 8a to diabaseis sta biblia tou sxoleiou giati einai
egklhma twn sugxronwn politikwn) to kommati tou Ellhnismou ths
Kwnstantinoupolews pou den ekdiwxthke to 22, alla die8nws anagnwristhke to
dikaiwma tou na brisketai ston topo tou me thn sun8hkh ths Lwzannhs tou 24,
ekdiwxthke sto pongkrom ths 6hs Septembriou 1955. Apo 150.000 Ellhnes meta
thn upografh ths Sun8hkhs ths Lwzannhs exoun meinei 3000-4000 geroi.
Parepiptontws, o Oikoumenikos Patreiarxhs sto Fanari prepei na einai
apogonos autwn twn Ellhnwn (h' Imbrios h' Tenedios, alla kai autoi
ekdiwxthkan me thn metatroph twn nhswn autwn pou eprepe na eixan autonomia
kai ellhna dioikith bash ths sumfwnias ths Lwzannhs, se anoiktes fulakes me
fertous egklhmaties apo thn Anatolia oi opoioi asudota kukloforousan sta
ellhnika xwria kai pliatsikologousan) kai na dw poios 8a kanei ton
Patriarxh meta ton Bar8olomaio!

An loipon akoma den mporeis na deis ti sxesh mporei na exei o Xrusomauros
Dikefalos Aetos me thn Ekklhsia, to Buzantio kai thn Kwnstantinoupoli, ti
sxesh exoun ta parapanw me thn Prosfugia, kai ti sxesh exei h AEK me ola ta
prohgoumena, tote sunexise na akous Endelexia giati to Podosfairo kai h
Istoria den einai ta spor sou!

Telos, kati gia thn A8lhtikh Istoria... Oi fila8les kataboles twn Ellhnwn
ths Kwnstantinoupolews xanontai sta ba8h tis Istorias, sthn epoxh twn
Prasinwn kai twn Benetwn (ela sou ebala kai oligh apo "Stash tou Nika",
mpas kai akouseis "revolution" kai sou aresei -an pali nomizeis oti h Stash
tou Nika einai dipla sthn Stash Kolliatsou, anoi3e to biblio ths E'
Dhmotikou) ki akoma parapisw! Oi a8lhtikes paradoseis twn ellhnwn ths
Kwnstantinoupolhs kai ths Mikras Asias pane dekades xronia pisw apo thn
epoxh tou 3erizwmou tou '22! Xarakthristika anaferw px ton Paniwnio, ton
Apollwna kai ton Orfea Smurnhs, kai thn Pera Club (pou opws eipa htan mia
ellhnikh omada pou htan prwta8lhths mesa sthn O8wmanikh Aurtokratoria). Gi'
auto kai oi omades autes, eixan polu uyhlo a8lhtiko epipedo otan
metafer8hkan sthn Ellada, kai etsi amesws or8opodisan xrhsimopoiwntas
apokleistika to prosfugiko a8lhtiko emyuxo uliko! Xarakthristiko ths epoxhs
einai oti o prwtos agwnas ths AEK htan me ton Olu**iako Peiraios pou eixe
hdh edraiw8ei san omada, opou oi panasxetoi, adaeis kai yoroperhfanoi apo
tote Peiraiwtes pisteuan oti 8a exoun na kanoun me ena tsourmo prosfugwn,
skoraran 2 gkol sto A Hmixrono kai arxisan na bgazoun glwssa kai na
apeiloun tous ligostous prosfuges fila8lous, alla sto B' Hmixrono arpajan
mia 3-ara apo tous Prosfuges pou thn 8umountai akoma! Oi panasxetoi
Peiraiwtes den eixan pote akousei ti 8a pei Pera Club (to ema8e o apautos
tous apo thn kalh omws meta to 3-2).

Sto de shmeio auto, gia na mhn uparxei amfibolia gia thn agaph twn
Prosfugwn gia ton A8lhtismo, na upen8umisw oti otan paraxwrh8hke apo to
kratos mia ektash sthn A8hna gia na ikanopoih8oun oi ameses kai epitaktikes
oikistikes anagkes twn prosfugwn (o sunoikismos pou onomasthke Nea
Filadelfeia eis anamnhsin ths Mikrasiatikhs polews), tous paraxwrh8hke kai
ena alsos gia a8lopaidies! Enw loipon oi an8rwpoi autoi peinousan kai den
eixan petra na baloun to kefali tous apo katw (xarakthristiko einai oti to
20% twn prosfugwn pe8ane stous prwtous mhnes apo thn asitia, tis kakouxies
kai tis loimwdeis as8eneies), anti na katapathsoun thn ektash auth, molo
thn anagkh gia stegash, oi an8rwpoi autoi e8elontika isopedwsan to dasaki
auto kai eftia3an me ton Timio Idrwta kai to Aima tous to Stadio ths Neas
Filadelfeias! Ka8e spi8amh autou tou stadiou einai potismenh me prosfugiko
aima kai idrwta!

>Kai fusika dev mou apedei3es th sxesn tns AEK (sav podosfairikn omada)


>me tnv prosfugia.... To av kapoios kosmos ka8etai kai asxoleitai me tnv
>mpourdologia tou buzavtiou, xrnsimopoiovtas sav suvdetiko kriko mia
>podosfairikn omada, auto dev apodukvuei tipota (kai eidika gia tnv
>prosfugia)...

"Mpourdologia tou buzantiou". Pali to idio sundromo: Xleuasmos autou pou
den ftanoume! Dustuxws gia sena Rocean, fainetai oti exeis meinei ektos
kommatikhs grammhs. Akolou8eis tis palies geloies 8eseis tou KKE, to opoio
eutuxws frontizei arga arga na tis petajei! To KKE shmera sunergazetai me
atoma pou mono "mpourdologia" den 8ewroun to Buzantio kai thn ousia tou! De
nomizw na sumfwnei px o Zouraris kai h Kanellh oti h pemptousia tou
Buzantiou einai mpourda! Mallon kati tupoi san tous diagrammenous
Kwstopoulaious, pou 8umh8hkan oti to KKE phre epikinduno dromo otan
sunergasthke me atoma pou den ftunoun 1100 xronia lamprhs istorias,
paradoshs kai politismou (enw 8ewrousan oti to KKE einai ston isio dromo,
otan diegrafan 68 apo ta 69 melh tou Kentrikou sumbouliou ths KNE gia na
mporesoun etsi na sunergastoun aproskopta me ta fasistoeidh ths ND- eleges
oti den 8a sto 3anaxtupaga;).

Oso gia to idio to epixeirhma... To gegonos oti oi apogonoi twn prosfugwn
uposthrizoun se polu megalo ba8mo prosfugika swmateia, alla kai to idio to
gegonos oti sthn ellada uparxoun tetoia swmateia (dhladh oi prosfuges den
aporrofh8hkan apo tis uparxouses egxwries omades) apodeiknuei thn arrhkth
sxesh ths prosfugias me auta ta swmateia!

>To movo pou apodukvuei ligo tnv 8ewria sou (kai upoklivomai stnv AEK) eivai
>ekeivo to FOBERO
>paixvidi sto Beligradi, evw oi NATOikes bombes peftave gurw... Egw pavtws
>eixa
>dakrusei me autn tnv ekplnktikn die8vistikn evergeia... Auto apo movo tou
>eivai logos va giveis AEKtzns... Asxeta av ta upoloipa pou les mou prokalouv
>avagoula...

Dustuxws, h idia h kinhsh mporei na eidw8ei apo polles optikes gwnies! Nai,
ontws mporei kapoios aristeros na to dei ws mia ekdhlwsh die8nistikhs
allhlegguhs! Enas e8nikisths omws, 8a mporouse na to dei ws... ekdhlwsh
Antialbanikhs/ Antimousoulmanikhs/ Or8odo3hs klp Sumparastashs pou mono sta
dika sou standards den xwra! Sthn zwh ta pragmata den einai toso apla oso
ston kosmo opws ton exeis plasei sthn fantasia sou, Rocean! Uparxei kai h
allh pleura! Egw toulaxiston auto to katalaba!

>Rocean

Asteras Amaliadas

Sotiris Skevoulis

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Astera,

To parakatw ponhma aitiologhshs twn rizwn ths...prosfygomanas
(mpouxaxa) Aek, einai isaksio, tou idiou ypshlou epipedou kai
alh0eias me to palaiotero pou eixes steilei gia thn 0hteia sou
ston kokkino strato.

Proteinw na mpei sta klassika!

Sotiris


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To: <HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU>

Michael Tsigonis

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Re sy ti fwnazeis. Den einai Kniths, Pasok einai kai phge sto KKE gia
na mhn exei typseis syneidhsews:)

8a ta breis sta log.

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Asteras Amaliadas

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At 01:33 28/11/2000 -0800, Sotiris Skevoulis wrote:
>Astera,
>
>To parakatw ponhma aitiologhshs twn rizwn ths...prosfygomanas
>(mpouxaxa) Aek, einai isaksio, tou idiou ypshlou epipedou kai
>alh0eias me to palaiotero pou eixes steilei gia thn 0hteia sou
>ston kokkino strato.
>
>Proteinw na mpei sta klassika!

Swthrakh,

Edw fainontai pali ta sundroma tou proterou KNitikou biou sou: Mia apo ta
idia san ton Rocean ki esu: Xleuazeis o,ti den ftaneis kai o,ti den
katalabaineis! Perimena omws oti toulaxiston esu, pou 3eperases to epipedo
tou KNitorniou, 8a 3epernages kai to komplex auto! Alla 3exasa... To na
xleuazeis o,ti den ftaneis kai o,ti den katalabaineis einai sundromo olwn
twn... kokkinwn, oxi mono twn kommounistwn!

>Sotiris

Asteras Amaliadas

PS Fainetai 3exases oti ws paikths ths Hellas epaiza Champions League ki
arxises thn pepathmenh kai xilioforemenh me 3eperasmena hellasitika
aggistria! Alla se ta mas den pianoun, Mesologgith...

Asteras Amaliadas

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At 16:23 28/11/2000 +0200, Rocean Spectrum wrote:
> > Einai klassiko KNitiko sundromo auto: Na arneisai thn sobarothta autou pou
> > den katalabaineis kai na gelas mazi tou!
>
>Giavvns kervaei, Giavvns pivei... :-)) (av kai oi 2 giavvndes eimaste)
>Apavtas stov eauto sou edw, 'n la8os exw katalabei??? :-))

Twra kai na sou pw ti exeis katalabei, den 8a to... katalabeis, opote asto!

>Oso gia ta upoloipa... Eisai ektos 8ematos, toulaxistov...

Lupamai pou spatalhsa toshn wra gia enan an8rwpo pou oxi na katalabei pws
kollane sthn idia protash, to Buzantio, h Kwnstantinoupoli, to Oikoumeniko
Patreiarxeio, o Dikefalos Aetos, h Prosfugia kai h AEK, alla oute pws
kollaei sthn idia protash o Kunhgos, o Lagos kai to Libadi, den einai
ikanos na anakaluyei.

Opws eipa kai allou, edw mesa mphka gia na suzhthsw sobara pragmata (oxi
sobarofanh bebaia, giati ws gnwston eimai prwtos sto xabale), alla arnoumai
na xanw ton xrono mou me atoma pou den exoun kammia elpida na katalaboun to
paramikro, oxi giati egw den exw thn dunatothta na to e3hghsw (8ewroumai
enas apo tous kalluterous daskalous), alla autoi den exoun thn nohtikh
ikanothta na to katalaboun. Eipa loipon oti 8a arxisw me to kill file na
agnow ta atoma auta, eite giati einai alhtes eite giati einai anegkefaloi
(h kai ta duo). Esu alhths den eisai pantws, opote mhn 8ixteis gia auto pou
8a eisai meta ton Klts Praf o deuteros sto kill file!

>Rocean

Asteras Amaliadas

PS Lupamai, alla exw polutimo xrono pou den mporw na spatalhsw adikws!

Rocean Spectrum

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----- Original Message -----
From: Asteras Amaliadas <ast...@BTINTERNET.COM>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
To: <HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: H Prosfugomana AEK

> > As payoun loipon oi eirwnies kai oi xleuasmoi pou kata kairous
> ekto3euontai [...] apo
> > adaeis pou xleuazoun auto pou apla den ftanoun, den katalabainoun kai
pou
> > pantelws agnooun!
>

> Einai klassiko KNitiko sundromo auto: Na arneisai thn sobarothta autou pou
> den katalabaineis kai na gelas mazi tou!

Giavvns kervaei, Giavvns pivei... :-)) (av kai oi 2 giavvndes eimaste)
Apavtas stov eauto sou edw, 'n la8os exw katalabei??? :-))

Oso gia ta upoloipa... Eisai ektos 8ematos, toulaxistov...


Rocean Spectrum

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----- Original Message -----
From: Asteras Amaliadas <ast...@BTINTERNET.COM>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
To: <HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: H Prosfugomana AEK

> "Mpourdologia tou buzantiou". Pali to idio sundromo: Xleuasmos autou pou
> den ftanoume! Dustuxws gia sena Rocean, fainetai oti exeis meinei ektos
> kommatikhs grammhs. Akolou8eis tis palies geloies 8eseis tou KKE, to opoio
> eutuxws frontizei arga arga na tis petajei! To KKE shmera sunergazetai me
> atoma pou mono "mpourdologia" den 8ewroun to Buzantio kai thn ousia tou!
De
> nomizw na sumfwnei px o Zouraris kai h Kanellh oti h pemptousia tou
> Buzantiou einai mpourda! Mallon kati tupoi san tous diagrammenous
> Kwstopoulaious, pou 8umh8hkan oti to KKE phre epikinduno dromo otan
> sunergasthke me atoma pou den ftunoun 1100 xronia lamprhs istorias,
> paradoshs kai politismou (enw 8ewrousan oti to KKE einai ston isio dromo,
> otan diegrafan 68 apo ta 69 melh tou Kentrikou sumbouliou ths KNE gia na
> mporesoun etsi na sunergastoun aproskopta me ta fasistoeidh ths ND- eleges
> oti den 8a sto 3anaxtupaga;).

Gia ta upoloipa dev 8a sou apavtnsw, giati dev exei ousia...

Gi'auto omws 8a sou apavtnsw kapoia stigmn (isws to bradu),
giati twra tnv kavw gia douleia...

Pavtws eimouv sigouros oti autn 8a ntav n apopsn sou gia tous
Kwstopoulous... Kai dev epaisa ka8olou e3w... :-))

CU letter... :-))

Peter Petropoulos

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Asteras Amaliadas wrote:

> (8ewroumai enas apo tous kalluterous daskalous)

O giatros to exei pei apo palia: ''Tou Astera Malakiadas
va lete pavta _vai_''.

Petros

ps. Telika 0a ta doume ola edw mesa: Apokatastasn mvnmns
Xouvtaiwv, Basiliadwv, Staliv, Bush, kai...Asterws Malakiadas...
poios eipe oti to milevioum arxise perusn ?

Myron Kaisides

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Ena aristourghma!!!

Monon enas AEKtzhs 9a borouse na sundesei thn istoria kai tis paradoseis
me ton a9lhtismo kai to agaphmeno tou swmateio.

Oi vazelogavroi to pio "va9u" istoriko pou ecoun na 9umountai einai
posa penaltu tous eice dwsei to 1936 gia na kerdisoun ena sthmeno paicnidi.
Kai posa kupella tous carize to paraskhnio *mesa* sto ghpedo tous.

mk

> At 03:58 28/11/2000 +0200, Rocean Spectrum wrote:
> >Twra, ti sxesn exei n "prosfugomava" me ta buzavtia tous dikefalous kai
> >alles tetoies andies, movo esu 3ereis... Kai o Xristodoulos me auta
> >asxoleitai alla dev eivai "prosfugopateras"...
>
> Edw isxuei auto pou eipa se kapoio allo shmeio:
>

> > As payoun loipon oi eirwnies kai oi xleuasmoi pou kata kairous
> ekto3euontai [...] apo
> > adaeis pou xleuazoun auto pou apla den ftanoun, den
> katalabainoun kai pou
> > pantelws agnooun!
>
> Einai klassiko KNitiko sundromo auto: Na arneisai thn sobarothta autou pou
> den katalabaineis kai na gelas mazi tou!
>

> "Mpourdologia tou buzantiou". Pali to idio sundromo: Xleuasmos autou pou
> den ftanoume! Dustuxws gia sena Rocean, fainetai oti exeis meinei ektos
> kommatikhs grammhs. Akolou8eis tis palies geloies 8eseis tou KKE, to opoio
> eutuxws frontizei arga arga na tis petajei! To KKE shmera sunergazetai me
> atoma pou mono "mpourdologia" den 8ewroun to Buzantio kai thn
> ousia tou! De
> nomizw na sumfwnei px o Zouraris kai h Kanellh oti h pemptousia tou
> Buzantiou einai mpourda! Mallon kati tupoi san tous diagrammenous
> Kwstopoulaious, pou 8umh8hkan oti to KKE phre epikinduno dromo otan
> sunergasthke me atoma pou den ftunoun 1100 xronia lamprhs istorias,
> paradoshs kai politismou (enw 8ewrousan oti to KKE einai ston isio dromo,
> otan diegrafan 68 apo ta 69 melh tou Kentrikou sumbouliou ths KNE gia na
> mporesoun etsi na sunergastoun aproskopta me ta fasistoeidh ths ND- eleges
> oti den 8a sto 3anaxtupaga;).
>

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