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Re Pevtakalour mas douleueis? Allo va kapvizeis eva duo tsigara, allo
oloklnro to Agrivio kai allo xalasmevo xorto opws esu.=20

=20

Tseligkas

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From: Zero Gara [mailto:zero...@yahoo.com]=20
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 2:50 PM
To: Petropoulos, Lambros; HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Agorastikes evtupwseis (suvexeia prongoumevou)

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To oti den kapnizete einai kalo kai gia sas kai gia tous gurw sas. To
oti den kapnizete kai 0elete na EPIBLH0EI enas AMERIKANIKOS akapnos
kosmos epeidh esas sas ton EPEBALAN kai to dexthkate einai mia ka0ara
amerikanikh uperoyia tou emeis kanoume etsi kai kala 0a kanete na
akolou0hsete tis modes mas.
Dhstuxws gia tis amerikanikes sas giapikes sunh0eies (giati h
amerikanikh ergatia de trabaei tetoia zoria) h Ellada den einai
euxaristh. Exei omws wraia krasia kai thria. Kai patsa exei, trwte
tetoio;
Kai o kafes einai akribos giati den exoume oute Colombianous sklabous na
mas promh0euoun, oute Me3ikanous na mas ton brazoun, alla kai polla alla
den exoume!
Epiishs den ekteloume kai bombardizoume a0wous gia na mopwlhsoume
petrelaio, oute apeiloume tous as0ainesterous me to idio giati 0eloun na
oplis0oun opws ki emeis.
To kuriotero einai oti to YFAKI sas mas xwrizei se emas kai esas!
Sth NY pou h piknothta plhuismou einai analogh ths A0hnas, kai spasmena
pezodromeia exei, kai kourades exei, kai skoupidia, kai polla alla.
Paramenei h monh polh ths Amerikhs me endei3eis an0rwpinou politismou
kai oxi mias konserbopoihmenhs kthnwdias twn walmart kai twn 7-11!
Ti na thn kanw egw thn "smoke free environment" otan oi an0rwpoi pou den
kapnizoun einai kata suntriptiko poswsto san ayuxa proionta mias
biomhxanias!
Ti na thn kaneis thn wraia epidermida kai thn ugieinh zwh otan kaleisai
na apodexteis organwmena stratopeda sugkentrwsews kai basanismou xwris
na mporeis na antidraseis.

Opws lene kai sto Texas! If ya'll don't like it, get the fuck out!

KoZmas >>>>------------->

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Sto gia ta tsigara dev exei adiko to Lndn. Re seis pnga sto Xeimerivo to
Mercedes kai vomiza oti nmouv se 0alamo aeriwv. Les kai nmastav se
kndia, oloi klegame apo tov kapvo!!! Gi'auto kai oloi oi filoi deixvouv
toulaxistov 10 xrovia pio gerasmevoi. Oi dikoi mou apo edw otav sustnva
snma0ntes dev pisteuav oti pnga sxoleio mazi tous (bale kai to gegovos
oti pivouv tnv misn Skwtia kai 3evuxtouv mexri to prwi + ta brwmika priv
pave gia upvo kai edese n marevgka).=20

Evw to ouzaki re seis paei katw sav froutaki!!!(allatis egiva kai
pointns:-)

Tseligkas

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From: The Hellenic Discussion List [mailto:HEL...@lists.psu.edu] On
Behalf Of lida anestidou
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:28 AM
To: HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Agorastikes evtupwseis (suvexeia prongoumevou)

Eixa na paw Ellada poly kairo. Eipa, me tous
Olumpiakous 8a alla3ane ta pragmata. Elpiza pros to
kalutero. Apogohteuthka -opws panta, alla pleon meta
apo tosa xronia sto e3wteriko exw arxisei na
apostasiopoioumai kai etsi ta pairnw ola ligaki
elafrotera.

Anti8eta me th Sofia sto The Mall den phga oxi mono
giati zw sth xwra opou prwtoftiaxthkan ayta ta
kataskeuasmata, alla giati prospa8hsa na mhn asxolh8w
kai 3odepsw tis meres mou sta magazia.=20
Dustyxws den apefuga na anebw sto ketro isa me 8
prwina ka8oti o Ellhnas kai oi sunh8eies tou
apodeixthkan -gia mia akomh fora- dunatoteres apo thn
organwtikh mou ikanothta.=20

Brhka, loipon, oti to kapnisma exei au3h8ei kai oti oi
xwroi gia tous mh kanpizontes exoun meiw8ei sto
elaxisto h den uparxoun. Trapezes, dhmosies uphresies,
estiatoria, kafeteries, magazia.... e3aitias tou
tsigarou sto upogeio tou Tsantilh epa8a hmikrania. To
idio paroligo na mou sumbei sto estiatorio tou Attica
(ena ueber magazi, styl Galleries Lafayette). Frikh.=20

Ta Olumpiaka erga marazwnoun, kleidwmena kai aprosita
sto koino, xortariazoun kai prosmenoun poios 8a ta
parei misotimhs na ta kanei spitia. To tram
leitourgei apsoga, kai as lene oti argei: pragmati
argei dioti einai meros ths kukloforias. To eishthrio
tou panakribo: 60 lepta h mia diadromh. Ema8a omws,
afou diabasa monh mou- oxi afou me plhroforhsan oi
upallhloi tou Metro, gia thn ebdomadiaia karta twn 10
eyrw pou kanei gia ola ta mesa plhn proasteiakou gia
aerodromio.=20

H Glyfada kai to Palaio Falhro einai duo frikta merh
gia na menei kaneis kai einai oxi aplws aporias a3io
alla deixnei to megaleio ths e3upnadas tou Ellhna, to
pws kai posa plhrwnei o kosmos gia na menei sthn
"paralia". Spasmena pezodromia, brwmia, skoupidia
amazeuta, autokinhta to ena panw sto allo, xwroi gia
perpathma kai pezodromia exoun metablh8ei se parkingk,
kadoi anakuklwshs enas ana 10 xiliades katoikous, kai
kuriws koprana skulwn idiwtwn (oxi adespotwn) pantou.
Bombardizontai autes oi perioxes oxi mono apo thn
kakogoustia tou Ellhna kai twn arxitektonwn pou
xtizoun pantou me to apuroblhto kai katastrepsan (me
prwto dida3anta ton Babis Vovos) opoio xarakthra eixe
h A8hna, alla kai apo ta skata twn skulwn pou -fusika-
de skubei kaneis na mazepsei.

H plateia Suntagmatos ena aparadekto, kakogousto,
diafhmistiko asteio ths kurias dhmarxou (h opoia
suntomws 8a ginei upourgos) gemath apo stolismena
dentra, kai spitakia pou poulane lixoudies gia tis
xroniares meres. Kai kapoioi epitidioi pou exoun
ferei- kurios oide apo pou- kati dustyxismena pony
Skuriana me ta opoia fwtografizontai mikra paidia. Ena
kakomoiro oute na sta8ei or8io kala kala den mporouse
kai o tupos pou to eixe mou elege oti einai 8 mhnwn
giauto den pata gera sta podia tou. Den h3ere pou
emple3e o kakomoirhs, omws.
Poios ta epiblepei, poios dinei adeies, pou menoun
auta....Ti kratos einai auto pou den deixnei thn
paramikrh euais8hsia sta zwa pou den exoun kammia
epilogh sthn (kako)metaxeirhsh tous apo tous
an8rwpous...

H zwh einai akribh sthn A8hna gia tous katoikous ths.=20
Hpiame omws yperoxa ellhnika krasia kai 8ampw8hkame
apo thn apisteyth poikilia ellhnikwn turiwn. 8eatra
me dunates parastaseis alla kai h Peiraiws gemath me
kakogousta koutia gia aparadektous tragoudistes. Ta
"nea" ellhnika tragoudia einai frikalea kai h poiothta
ths thleorashs epishs. H Ellh Stah me makru 3an9o
malli kai oi fwnaklades exoun katalusei ta panta.

Autes tis entypwseis apokomisa. Dustyxws, ola
paramenoun "gia poulhma loipon"=20

Lhda

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eva duo tsigara, allo oloklnro to Agrivio kai allo xalasmevo xorto opws =
esu.

Tseligkas

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From: Zero =
Gara
[mailto:zero...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 13, =
2006
2:50 PM 
To: Petropoulos, Lambros;
HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU 
Subject: Re: Agorastikes
evtupwseis (suvexeia prongoumevou)

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To oti den kapnizete einai kalo kai gia sas kai gia tous gurw
sas.  To oti den kapnizete kai 0elete na EPIBLH0EI enas =
AMERIKANIKOS
akapnos kosmos epeidh esas sas ton EPEBALAN kai to dexthkate einai mia =
ka0ara
amerikanikh uperoyia tou emeis kanoume etsi kai kala 0a kanete na =
akolou0hsete
tis modes mas. 
Dhstuxws gia tis amerikanikes sas giapikes sunh0eies (giati h =
amerikanikh
ergatia de trabaei tetoia zoria) h Ellada den einai euxaristh.  =
Exei omws
wraia krasia kai thria.  Kai patsa exei, trwte tetoio; 
Kai o kafes einai akribos giati den exoume oute Colombianous sklabous na =
mas
promh0euoun, oute Me3ikanous na mas ton brazoun, alla kai polla alla den
exoume! 
Epiishs den ekteloume kai bombardizoume a0wous gia na mopwlhsoume =
petrelaio,
oute apeiloume tous as0ainesterous me to idio giati 0eloun na oplis0oun =
opws ki
emeis. 
To kuriotero einai oti to YFAKI sas mas xwrizei se emas kai esas! 
Sth NY pou h piknothta plhuismou einai analogh ths A0hnas, kai =
spasmena
pezodromeia exei, kai kourades exei, kai skoupidia, kai polla =
alla. 
Paramenei h monh polh ths Amerikhs me endei3eis an0rwpinou politismou =
kai oxi
mias konserbopoihmenhs kthnwdias twn walmart kai twn 7-11! 
Ti na thn kanw egw thn "smoke free environment" otan oi =
an0rwpoi pou
den kapnizoun einai kata suntriptiko poswsto san ayuxa proionta mias
biomhxanias! 
Ti na thn kaneis thn wraia epidermida kai thn ugieinh zwh otan kaleisai =
na
apodexteis organwmena stratopeda sugkentrwsews kai basanismou xwris na =
mporeis
na antidraseis. 
 
 
Opws lene kai sto Texas!  If ya'll don't like it, get the fuck =
out! 
 
KoZmas  >>>>-------------> 
 
"Petropoulos,
Lambros" <lambros.p...@WYLELABS.COM> =
wrote:

Sto gia ta tsigara dev exei adiko to Lndn. Re seis pnga sto =
Xeimerivo
to 
Mercedes kai vomiza oti nmouv se 0alamo aeriwv. Les kai nmastav se 
kndia, oloi klegame apo tov kapvo!!! Gi'auto kai oloi oi filoi =
deixvouv 
toulaxistov 10 xrovia pio gerasmevoi. Oi dikoi mou apo edw otav =
sustnva 
snma0ntes dev pisteuav oti pnga sxoleio mazi tous (bale kai to =
gegovos 
oti pivouv tnv misn Skwtia kai 3evuxtouv mexri to prwi + ta brwmika =
priv 
pave gia upvo kai edese n marevgka). 
 
Evw to ouzaki re seis paei katw sav froutaki!!!(allatis egiva kai 
pointns:-) 
 
Tseligkas 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: The Hellenic Discussion List [mailto:HEL...@lists.psu.edu] On 
Behalf Of lida anestidou 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:28 AM 
To: HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU 
Subject: Re: Agorastikes evtupwseis (suvexeia prongoumevou) 
 
Eixa na paw Ellada poly kairo. Eipa, me tous 
Olumpiakous 8a alla3ane ta pragmata. Elpiza pros to 
kalutero. Apogohteuthka -opws panta, alla pleon meta 
apo tosa xronia sto e3wteriko exw arxisei na 
apostasiopoioumai kai etsi ta pairnw ola ligaki 
elafrotera. 
 
Anti8eta me th Sofia sto The Mall den phga oxi mono 
giati zw sth xwra opou prwtoftiaxthkan ayta ta 
kataskeuasmata, alla giati prospa8hsa na mhn asxolh8w 
kai 3odepsw tis meres mou sta magazia. 
Dustyxws den apefuga na anebw sto ketro isa me 8 
prwina ka8oti o Ellhnas kai oi sunh8eies tou 
apodeixthkan -gia mia akomh fora- dunatoteres apo thn 
organwtikh mou ikanothta. 
 
Brhka, loipon, oti to kapnisma exei au3h8ei kai oti oi 
xwroi gia tous mh kanpizontes exoun meiw8ei sto 
elaxisto h den uparxoun. Trapezes, dhmosies uphresies, 
estiatoria, kafeteries, magazia.... e3aitias tou 
tsigarou sto upogeio tou Tsantilh epa8a hmikrania. To 
idio paroligo na mou sumbei sto estiatorio tou Attica 
(ena ueber magazi, styl Galleries Lafayette). Frikh. 
 
Ta Olumpiaka erga marazwnoun, kleidwmena kai aprosita 
sto koino, xortariazoun kai prosmenoun poios 8a ta 
parei misotimhs na ta kanei spitia. To tram 
leitourgei apsoga, kai as lene oti argei: pragmati 
argei dioti einai meros ths kukloforias. To eishthrio 
tou panakribo: 60 lepta h mia diadromh. Ema8a omws, 
afou diabasa monh mou- oxi afou me plhroforhsan oi 
upallhloi tou Metro, gia thn ebdomadiaia karta twn 10 
eyrw pou kanei gia ola ta mesa plhn proasteiakou gia 
aerodromio. 
 
H Glyfada kai to Palaio Falhro einai duo frikta merh 
gia na menei kaneis kai einai oxi aplws aporias a3io 
alla deixnei to megaleio ths e3upnadas tou Ellhna, to 
pws kai posa plhrwnei o kosmos gia na menei sthn 
"paralia". Spasmena pezodromia, brwmia, skoupidia 
amazeuta, autokinhta to ena panw sto allo, xwroi gia 
perpathma kai pezodromia exoun metablh8ei se parkingk, 
kadoi anakuklwshs enas ana 10 xiliades katoikous, kai 
kuriws koprana skulwn idiwtwn (oxi adespotwn) pantou. 
Bombardizontai autes oi perioxes oxi mono apo thn 
kakogoustia tou Ellhna kai twn arxitektonwn pou 
xtizoun pantou me to apuroblhto kai katastrepsan (me 
prwto dida3anta ton Babis Vovos) opoio xarakthra eixe 
h A8hna, alla kai apo ta skata twn skulwn pou -fusika- 
de skubei kaneis na mazepsei. 
 
H plateia Suntagmatos ena aparadekto, kakogousto, 
diafhmistiko asteio ths kurias dhmarxou (h opoia 
suntomws 8a ginei upourgos) gemath apo stolismena 
dentra, kai spitakia pou poulane lixoudies gia tis 
xroniares meres. Kai kapoioi epitidioi pou exoun 
ferei- kurios oide apo pou- kati dustyxismena pony 
Skuriana me ta opoia fwtografizontai mikra paidia. Ena 
kakomoiro oute na sta8ei or8io kala kala den mporouse 
kai o tupos pou to eixe mou elege oti einai 8 mhnwn 
giauto den pata gera sta podia tou. Den h3ere pou 
emple3e o kakomoirhs, omws. 
Poios ta epiblepei, poios dinei adeies, pou menoun 
auta....Ti kratos einai auto pou den deixnei thn 
paramikrh euais8hsia sta zwa pou den exoun kammia 
epilogh sthn (kako)metaxeirhsh tous apo tous 
an8rwpous... 
 
H zwh einai akribh sthn A8hna gia tous katoikous ths. 
Hpiame omws yperoxa ellhnika krasia kai 8ampw8hkame 
apo thn apisteyth poikilia ellhnikwn turiwn. 8eatra 
me dunates parastaseis alla kai h Peiraiws gemath me 
kakogousta koutia gia aparadektous tragoudistes. Ta 
"nea" ellhnika tragoudia einai frikalea kai h poiothta 
ths thleorashs epishs. H Ellh Stah me makru 3an9o 
malli kai oi fwnaklades exoun katalusei ta panta. 
 
Autes tis entypwseis apokomisa. Dustyxws, ola 
paramenoun "gia poulhma loipon" 
 
L. 
 
 
Lhda 
 
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lida anestidou wrote:
> Olumpiakous 8a alla3ane ta pragmata. Elpiza pros to
> kalutero.

Lnda, oveireuesai :-)) TO eixa grayei kai persi me tous Olumpiakous: tnv
epomevn tns teletns ln3ns ola egivav opws priv.

> Dustyxws den apefuga na anebw sto ketro isa me 8
> prwina ka8oti o Ellhnas kai oi sunh8eies tou
> apodeixthkan -gia mia akomh fora- dunatoteres apo thn

> organwtikh mou ikanothta. ]

Auto eivia alln istoria. Evtupwseis mou gia oures kai dnmosies upnresies
se allo mnvuma.

> Brhka, loipon, oti to kapnisma exei au3h8ei kai oti oi
> xwroi gia tous mh kanpizontes exoun meiw8ei sto
> elaxisto h den uparxoun.

Mia filn medical staticitian mou elege oti n omada stnv opoia au3avetai
ragdia to kapvisma stnv Ellada eivia oi guvaikes katw twv 35. Se erwtnsn
giati bre paidia, n veolaia dev to exei labei to mnvuma dnladn, n
apavtnsn ntav oti to 0ewrouv xeirafetnsn, magkia klp (perisostera KAI
gia auto to 0ema se allo mnvuma gia va mn mplekoume polla mazi).

Oso gia tous xwrous mn-kapvistwv... Katakaivourgo katastnma ev
movastnrakiw, gurw sta 500 tetragwvika magazi. me peripoinmevn
diakosmnsn, peripoinmevn mousikn, peripoinmevo mevou klp klp. Pame
vwris, mia parea oxtw atoma sto dila trapezi, oloi me duo tsigara sto
ka0e xeri va exouv kavei to magazi teke. Exete xwro mn kapvistwv;
rwtnsa. Oxi, mou leei to gkarsovi. Kai fugame. Ma dev eivia pleov
upoxrewtiko apo to vomo va eoxuv xwro mn-kapvistwv;

> idio paroligo na mou sumbei sto estiatorio tou Attica
> (ena ueber magazi, styl Galleries Lafayette). Frikh.

Eixa tnv evtupwsn oti zeis stn xwra pou efeure0nkav ta katastnmata
tetoiou eidous, opote dev eixes avagkn va aps ;-)))

> alla deixnei to megaleio ths e3upnadas tou Ellhna, to
> pws kai posa plhrwnei o kosmos gia na menei sthn
> "paralia".

Emeva mou ekave pavta evtupwsn (pro El-Bel) pws eivai duvatov va
plnrwvouv tosa gia va exouv ta aeroplava va pervave 3usta pavw ap'to
kefali tous.

> Spasmena pezodromia, brwmia, skoupidia
> amazeuta, autokinhta to ena panw sto allo, xwroi gia
> perpathma kai pezodromia exoun metablh8ei se parkingk,
> kadoi anakuklwshs enas ana 10 xiliades katoikous, kai
> kuriws koprana skulwn idiwtwn (oxi adespotwn) pantou.

A, malista, opws to Lovdivo dnladn (me e3airesn to parkigk, giait edw n
dnmotikn astuvomia divei klnseis aberta) :-))

> xtizoun pantou me to apuroblhto kai katastrepsan (me
> prwto dida3anta ton Babis Vovos)

Se parakalw, ase tov babis stnv nsuxia tou (twra ektos apo erga "babis
vovos" exoume kai erga "haris vovos", o uios dnaldn). Xwris
xrusopoikiltn garvitoura va kavei avti0esn me tn maurn tzamaria de zw!
Greek architecture rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

> H plateia Suntagmatos ena aparadekto, kakogousto,
> diafhmistiko asteio ths kurias dhmarxou (h opoia

Gegovos eivai oti ki egw dev katalaba ti vonma eixe va givei n plateia
etsi, dev mporousav va tous balouv se kaveva Zappeio p.x, va mporoume ki
emeis va bgoume apo tov upogeio kai va perpatnsoume pevte metra xwris
strimw3idi;
Kai gevikws dev katalabaivw giati oi dnmarxoi, oloi ave3airetws, koitave
poios 0a kavei pio "eortastikn" tnv poln tis giortes. Kai giati 0a
prepei va exoume mousikoxoreutika swou stis kevtrikes plateies. Kai de
me pei0ei n dikaiologia "uparxouv polloi av0rwpoi pou dev exouv va pave
pou0eva, eivia movoi klp klp". Nai, wraia, ki emeis opote dev exoume va
pame pou0eva ka0omaste spiti mas. Kai oso movoi kai va eimaste, dev
prokeitai va ais0av0oume kalutera strimwgmevoi avamesa se agvwstous.

Sto Suvtagma n0eles dev n0eles akouges xristougevviatikn mousikn stn
diapasswv. Oxi, de me evoxlouse n mousikn (av kai 0a mporouse va eivai
kalutern), n evtasn me evoxlouse. Giati 0a prepei vte kai kala va
"summetexoume stn giortn" eikosipevte oikodomika tetragwva makria;

> Poios ta epiblepei, poios dinei adeies, pou menoun
> auta....

Autn tnv aporia eixa ki egw, alla klassika, idiwtikn prwtoboulia ;-)))

> H zwh einai akribh sthn A8hna gia tous katoikous ths.

You wouldn't know, looking at the way they live. Av kai auto snkwvei
polln suzntnsn. Egw 0a elega oti aplws metatepovtai me taxuterous
ru0mous oi mesoastoi se mikroastous. Koivws, oti avoigei n yalida, opws
kai stnv upoloipn Eurwpn (gi'auto lew oti givame Eurwpaioi).

> Hpiame omws yperoxa ellhnika krasia kai 8ampw8hkame
> apo thn apisteyth poikilia ellhnikwn turiwn.

Pou o mesos Ellnvas dev agorazei pleov.

> "nea" ellhnika tragoudia einai frikalea kai h poiothta

Swwwpa!
> ths thleorashs epishs.

:-)))) Paratnrnses malista oti ta eortastika programmata exouv
katargn0ei kai exouv avtikatasta0ei apo ekpompes stis opoies mazeuovtai
kamia dekaria maivtavoi, trwve, pivouve, xoreuouve kai leve malakies
gurw apo eva trapezi evw dipla n orxnstra kai o ekastote "kallitexvns"
mas leei to programma tou kevtrou pou emfavizetai; Malista upnrxe kai
epilogn avaloga me ta gousta:) Tnv Prwtoxrovia vomizw sto eva kavali o
Papadopoulos me tous "poiotikoterous" kallitexves (Mntsia ki etsi) kai
me "poiotikoterous" kalesmevous va trwve, va pivouve kai va xoreuouve
xwris va 3erouv ta bnmata, sto allo (de 0umamai se poio) evas pou dev
3erw poios eivai, sa va exei bgei apo idruma eivai pavtws, me tous
mpasklaria kallitexves (Pavta3n ki etsi) kai omoiws agvwstous
kalesmevous, va trwve, va pivouve kai va mnv 3erouv ta bnmata.

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Spyros Daskaleas

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Siga re Kosma na poyme dhladh eseis poy kapnizete eiste oi magkes ki emeis
poy den kapnizoyme eimaste "apsyxa pro.i.onta mias biomhxanias"? Ela re siga
8a me piasoyn ta klammata kai 8'arxisw to kapnisma na ginw arrenwpos san ton
Fidel!

Anatrixiasa omws me tis perigrafes ths Sofias... Ti blaxia telika ayth h
Ellada pali kala emeis oi anwteroi fygame apo ayth th brwmia kai mporoyme na
leme stoys filoys mas se ti xali zoyn!

SCD

Em 1/13/06 10:50 PM, Zero Gara (zero...@yahoo.com) escreveu:

> Sth NY pou h piknothta ! plhuismou einai analogh ths A0hnas, kai spasmena

lida anestidou

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Jan 14, 2006, 9:30:03 AM1/14/06

Se plhroforw oti kapnizw. Se plhroforw epishs oti den
uparxei pio inhumane pragma apo to na anagkazeis mh
kapnistes na anapneuoun ton kapno sou. Den h3era oti
to na zhtas na mhn upobalesai sto martyrio ths
kapnisths pestrofas einai amerikanikh epibolh isa3ia
me ta basanisthria sto Gkouantanamo. Fainetai oti oi
loipoi eurwpaikoi laoi pou to exoun ensternistei einai
kai autoi lakedes twn amerikanwn san kai mas pou zoume
edw kai epibaloun stous polites tous filoamerikanikes
politikes ws me8odo glupsimatos.

Den ntrepesai pou eftases na guriseis sthn Ellada kai
mas amolas thn idia prosbolh pou amolane oi amerikanoi
polites se opoion nomizoun oti den einai amerikanos
alla tolma na askei kritikh? ou na xa8eis agaphte
"kurie" dh8en koultouriarh Kosma.

Lhda

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Jan 14, 2006, 4:30:01 PM1/14/06

Opa re megale ara3e pou ta peta3es ola sto blendre kai patnses to
koumpi kai ta'kaves axtarma.
0es va peis dnladn oti to kalokairi sto ploio apo Tnvo pou'xame
katsei sto salovi mn kapvistwv me duo mwra kai duo egguous kai me
peira3e pou ekobes tnv omixln apo tnv kapva me to maxairi kai otav
eleges sto dipla sou oti edw eivai mn kapvistwv kai va paei pio pera
giati ta mwra kai oi egguoi tous peirazei kai sou'lege oloi kapvizouv
av 0es ka0aro aera bges e3w, to fasistomoutro tou kerata dev ntav
autoi pou kapvizav alla egw; Malista, va to 3erw apo'dw kai pera.
Kai pou'sai, dev exei movo auta ta wraia n Ellada, gia meva ola kala
eivai ektos ap'tnv tsigarila. Oso gia patsa, krasia kai turia dev
eivai auto pou kavei tn diafora, exoume ki edw. Auto pou kavei tnv
Ellada kalutern eivai oi Ellnves (toulaxistov otav dev kapvizouv).

Sxolio gia tn Sofia: dev katalabaivw to mazoxismo sou va pngaiveis
diakopes kai va asxoleisai me tnv tnleorasn kai ta emporika kevtra.
Auta pavtou ta maura tous ta xalia eivai, giati perimeveis stnv
Ellada va'vai kalutera; Egw pavtws pa0aivw alergia sta emporika
kevtra, meta to prwto tetarto 0elw aspirives opote ta'xw koyei,
ywvizw se memovwmeva magazia ta pavta, exouv to pleovektnma oti
mporeis va pas kai me sugkoivwvia ki oxi movo m'autokivnto.

Yiannis

Le 13 janv. 06 à 23:50, Zero Gara a écrit :

> Opws lene kai sto Texas! If ya'll don't like it, get the fuck out!
>
> KoZmas >>>>------------->
>
> "Petropoulos, Lambros" <lambros.p...@WYLELABS.COM> wrote:

> Sto gia ta tsigara dev exei adiko to Lndn. Re! seis pnga sto

> Xeimerivo to
> Mercedes kai vomiza oti nmouv se 0alamo aeriwv. Les kai nmastav se
> kndia, oloi klegame apo tov kapvo!!! Gi'auto kai oloi oi filoi
> deixvouv
> toulaxistov 10 xrovia pio gerasmevoi. Oi dikoi mou apo edw otav
> sustnva
> snma0ntes dev pisteuav oti pnga sxoleio mazi tous (bale kai to gegovos
> oti pivouv tnv misn Skwtia kai 3evuxtouv mexri to prwi + ta brwmika
> priv
> pave gia upvo kai edese n marevgka).
>

> Evw to ouzaki re seis paei katw sav froutaki!!!(allatis egiva kai
> pointns:-)
>
> Tseligkas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Hellenic Discussion List [mailto:HEL...@lists.psu.edu] On
> Behalf Of lida anestidou
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:28 AM
> To: HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU
> Subject: Re: Agorastikes evtupwseis (suvexeia prongoumevou)
>
> Eixa na paw Ellada poly kairo. Eipa, me tous

> Olumpiakous 8a alla3ane ta pragmata. Elpiza pros to

> kalutero. Apogohteuthka -opws panta, alla pleon meta

> apo tosa xronia s! to e3wteriko exw arxisei na

> apostasiopoioumai kai etsi ta pairnw ola ligaki
> elafrotera.
>
> Anti8eta me th Sofia sto The Mall den phga oxi mono
> giati zw sth xwra opou prwtoftiaxthkan ayta ta
> kataskeuasmata, alla giati prospa8hsa na mhn asxolh8w
> kai 3odepsw tis meres mou sta magazia.

> Dustyxws den apefuga na anebw sto ketro isa me 8
> prwina ka8oti o Ellhnas kai oi sunh8eies tou
> apodeixthkan -gia mia akomh fora- dunatoteres apo thn
> organwtikh mou ikanothta.
>

> Brhka, loipon, oti to kapnisma exei au3h8ei kai oti oi
> xwroi gia tous mh kanpizontes exoun meiw8ei sto

> elaxisto h den uparxoun. Trapezes, dhmosies uphresies,
> estiatoria, kafeteries, magazia.... e3aitias tou
> tsigarou sto upogeio tou Tsantilh epa8a hmikrania. To

> idio paroligo na mou sumbei sto estiatorio tou Attica
> (ena ueber magazi, styl Galleries Lafayette). Frikh.
>

> Ta Olumpiaka erga marazwnoun, kleidwmena kai aprosita

> sto koino, xortariazoun kai prosmenoun! poios 8a ta

> parei misotimhs na ta kanei spitia. To tram
> leitourgei apsoga, kai as lene oti argei: pragmati
> argei dioti einai meros ths kukloforias. To eishthrio
> tou panakribo: 60 lepta h mia diadromh. Ema8a omws,
> afou diabasa monh mou- oxi afou me plhroforhsan oi
> upallhloi tou Metro, gia thn ebdomadiaia karta twn 10
> eyrw pou kanei gia ola ta mesa plhn proasteiakou gia
> aerodromio.
>

> H Glyfada kai to Palaio Falhro einai duo frikta merh
> gia na menei kaneis kai einai oxi aplws aporias a3io

> alla deixnei to megaleio ths e3upnadas tou Ellhna, to
> pws kai posa plhrwnei o kosmos gia na menei sthn

> "paralia". Spasmena pezodromia, brwmia, skoupidia

> amazeuta, autokinhta to ena panw sto allo, xwroi gia
> perpathma kai pezodromia exoun metablh8ei se parkingk,
> kadoi anakuklwshs enas ana 10 xiliades katoikous, kai
> kuriws koprana skulwn idiwtwn (oxi adespotwn) pantou.

> Bombardizontai autes oi perioxes oxi mono apo thn

> kakogoustia tou Ellhna ka! i twn arxitektonwn pou

> xtizoun pantou me to apuroblhto kai katastrepsan (me

> prwto dida3anta ton Babis Vovos) opoio xarakthra eixe
> h A8hna, alla kai apo ta skata twn skulwn pou -fusika-
> de skubei kaneis na mazepsei.
>

> H plateia Suntagmatos ena aparadekto, kakogousto,
> diafhmistiko asteio ths kurias dhmarxou (h opoia

> suntomws 8a ginei upourgos) gemath apo stolismena
> dentra, kai spitakia pou poulane lixoudies gia tis
> xroniares meres. Kai kapoioi epitidioi pou exoun
> ferei- kurios oide apo pou- kati dustyxismena pony
> Skuriana me ta opoia fwtografizontai mikra paidia. Ena
> kakomoiro oute na sta8ei or8io kala kala den mporouse
> kai o tupos pou to eixe mou elege oti einai 8 mhnwn
> giauto den pata gera sta podia tou. Den h3ere pou
> emple3e o kakomoirhs, omws.

> Poios ta epiblepei, poios dinei adeies, pou menoun

> auta....Ti kratos einai auto pou den deixnei thn
> paramikrh euais8hsia sta zwa pou den exoun kammia

> epilogh sthn (kako)metaxeir! hsh tous apo tous
> an8rwpous...

>
> H zwh einai akribh sthn A8hna gia tous katoikous ths.

> Hpiame omws yperoxa ellhnika krasia kai 8ampw8hkame

> apo thn apisteyth poikilia ellhnikwn turiwn. 8eatra
> me dunates parastaseis alla kai h Peiraiws gemath me
> kakogousta koutia gia aparadektous tragoudistes. Ta

> "nea" ellhnika tragoudia einai frikalea kai h poiothta

> ths thleorashs epishs. H Ellh Stah me makru 3an9o
> malli kai oi fwnaklades exoun katalusei ta panta.
>
> Autes tis entypwseis apokomisa. Dustyxws, ola
> paramenoun "gia poulhma loipon"
>

> L.
>
>
> Lhda
>
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megale otan pineis na mhn grafeis. Xaneis ton elegxo kai ekti8esai.
akous ekei epibaloume na mhn kapnizete. De pas na kopseis ta xeria sou
na ta vraseis kai na ta fas? emena den me apasxolei. opws kai to oti
kapnizeis ta sykwtia sou. To na kapnizeis omws se xwro mh kapnizontwn
einai kai diko mou 8ema. Kai de 8a anextw kanenan sterhmeno na mou
epibalei ton karkino.
Ayta kai feygw gia Olympo!

Kwnstantinos

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every man is a small piece of the Continent,
a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less,as well a promontory were,
as well as if a manor of thy friends
or of thine own were;
any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind;
And therefore never send to know
for whom the bell tolls;
It tols for THEE...
(John Donne 1624)[meditation XVII]

V. Farmaki

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Jan 14, 2006, 10:30:02 PM1/14/06

Enta3ei vre Spyro mila mas kai mh mas agapas :-)
Vlaxakia eimaste alla siga siga tha mathoume.
Thn epomenh fora pou thartheis kane mou kana mathhma
pws kratane to phrouni giati ap thn teleftaia
fora pou sousteila thn mprizola sto mati,
3exasa!!

Aeinte kane kati,
na'oum...

veatrikh
Kai pousai,..
kapnizw full, e?? :-)

V. Farmaki

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Jan 14, 2006, 11:30:02 PM1/14/06

Giati vre thn pesate oloi ston Kosma?
Mia xara ta leei.
Giati 3exname oti aftoi eimaste.
Afto einai to Ellas, me ta trella tou, ta paranoma tou,
me to "ta grafoume ola st'.... mas", me to etsi mas aresei, kai paei legontas.
Ti na kanoume? na skasoume?
Piesh apo dw, piesh apo kei, fate twra kai diavathrio me dekades tsipakia
panw (pou theloun oi usades) kai prosoxh sthn fwto na mhn fainontai dontia,
nanai kala anoixta ta matia, na mhn yparxei ekfrash, na mhn, na mhn....
Ante kai mas tyligoume se mia kolla ladoxarto (tyfla naxei o gyros),
mh milate dynata giati kanete hxorypansh, mh koitate zava giati eimaste kai
pare3hgiarhdes,.. den mas goustaroun ta pezodromia sas, (diathetoume
kai asfalto),
den trwte polla tyria (siga pou tanakalypsan oi politismenoi twra kai
to poly tyri tous
vgainei ap t' aftia!..) den akoute kalh mousikh (kala, glentate kai
meraklwnete eseis me "alla"!)
re ti allo th' akousoume :-)
Exw ri3ei poly gelio!
Fantasou na kaname import oti forietai parapera, pros tas dysmas kai na
psaxnomastan meta pros ta pou saltaroume oi varemenoi.
Pousai re Trane na mas peis gia liga kopsidia kai pws pane katw - oxi
me Careras
kai Caballe fantazomai.

Toso politismos sas leipei otan erxeste sthn rhmada thn xwra? :-)
Anti na pernate kala kai na to glentate..

veatrikh

>Em 1/13/06 10:50 PM, Zero Gara (zero...@yahoo.com) escreveu:
>

Sophia

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Jan 15, 2006, 9:30:02 AM1/15/06

Yiannis wrote:
> Sxolio gia tn Sofia: dev katalabaivw to mazoxismo sou va pngaiveis
> diakopes kai va asxoleisai me tnv tnleorasn kai ta emporika kevtra.

Giati otav pngaiveis gia treis bdomades spiti sou kapoia stigmn 0a
avoi3eis tnv tnleorasn kai kapoia stigmn 0a pas gia ywvia. Av pngaiva
gia treis bdomades se kamia e3wtikn paralia 'n se kaveva xiovodromiko
gia ski pi0avov va mnv ta ekava auta, alla ti va kavoume re Giavvn,
orismevoi dev kavoume diakopes stnv Ellada, apla pame Ellada kai kavoume
ekei auta pou 0a kavame edw, suvn0ws me pio liges eukolies giati dev
mporeis va koubalnseis olo sou to spiti mazi sou.

> Auta pavtou ta maura tous ta xalia eivai, giati perimeveis stnv Ellada
> va'vai kalutera;

Dev perimevw va eivai kalutera, apla koitazw va dw av eivai diaforetika.
Dev mporw va koyw tnv koivwviologikn ereuva :-)

> Egw pavtws pa0aivw alergia sta emporika kevtra, meta
> to prwto tetarto 0elw aspirives opote ta'xw koyei, ywvizw se memovwmeva
> magazia ta pavta, exouv to pleovektnma oti mporeis va pas kai me
> sugkoivwvia ki oxi movo m'autokivnto.

A, vai, memovwmeva magazia... Kati 0umamai. Stnv npeirwtikn Eurwpn exei
akoma tetoia :-))) Edw sto Lovdivo 0a eivai 'n alusides/ franchises 'n
polukatastnmata 'n 0a sustegazovtai me alla ekato magazia se emporiko
kevtro :-)))

Spyros Daskaleas

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Jan 15, 2006, 11:30:01 AM1/15/06

Egw eimai Maniatopeiraiwths kai paidi toy laoy kai goystarw ta emporika
kentra kai th blaxia, alloi einai aytoi poy phgan sta e3wterika kai eginan
snomparia!

Lege esy Oikonomidoy gia ton politismo sta Londina na menoyn me anoixto to
stoma oi eparxiwtes Graikoi! Egw poy exw zhsei sth brwmoxwra kai exw faei
toys Agglares sth mapa kai 3erw ti 8a pei "townie" (ayto poy twra bgalate
chav giati hr8e kai sta Londina h moda blepeis) gelaw! XILIES FORES
ELLADOYLA para h 3eftila toy Londinoy!

Oso gia sena Bea to Pasxa poy 8a katebw kai 8a me keraseis kai to rhmadi ton
kafe 8a doyme an tolmhseis na kapniseis dipla moy! :D

SCD

Em 1/15/06 3:18 AM, V. Farmaki (easyt...@HOL.GR) escreveu:

lida anestidou

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Jan 15, 2006, 1:30:02 PM1/15/06

giauto einai oloi katw me mia moutrakla mexri to
patwma kai de gelaei kaneis? epeidh pernane oloi kala
kai h zwh einai mia omorfia?

ws pote re beatrikh 8a baukalizomaste oti kala einai
etsi opws eimaste kai maggia mas kai opoios de
goustarei tough?
dhladh, h mousikh kai h toubou sth diapaswn 10 kai 11
to brady, einai ok, giati alliws exoume ekpolitistei
ek twn e3w kai tou Ellhna o sberkos zugo den upomenei?

nai re Bea, h mousikh einai FRIKTH, enta3ei? ama esu
th sunh8ises kai goustareis anegkefalia, me geia sou
me xara sou, alla mh mas eirwneuesai oti auth einai
kai se opoion aresei. Dhladh xrhsimopoihse kai kammia
allh ekfrash h telos pantwn e3hga mou kai mena to
ba8os tou xatzhgiannh kai tou rouba kai ths dei3ias
kai ths pei3ias mpas kai to'xw xasei dhladh.

oxi de mou aresoun ta pezodromia pou DEN UPARXOUN,
dioti ta plhrwnw me tous forous mou kai den ta exw.
Dioti einai gemata autokinhta, skata skulwn kai
skoupidia. Giati brexei kai glustrane sa guali, giati
perpatw sthn asfalto kai pernane dipla mou oi
aganestatoi kai epikindynoi odhgoi kai kinduneuw na
bre8w sto noskomomeio kai gw kai h mana mou kai oloi
oi pezoi. loipon, OXI de mou aresoun.

Kai nai, eisagwges twn pantwn ginontai kai twra kai
xtes ginontousan kai aurio 8a ginontai: rouxa, cd,
hlektronika, thleoptikes ekmpompes. Dhladh poios fora
Armani pou exei pleon 2 magazia sto Kolwnaki, oxi mono
Emporio alla kai COLLECTIONI parakalw, kai poios
pswnizei stou hermes? monaxa oi sundaithmones ths
megalhs Bretanias? 8a trella8oume twra? pswnares
hmastan panta kai antigrafeis ka8e 3enhs kakogoustias
kai 3afnika giname mh-mou-aptou kai h kritikh einai
apagoerumenh? 3ereis ti poarathrhsa? akomh akomh pio
polu fwnazei o ka8e enas klefths gia na fugei o
noikokurhs. Treladiko exoume katanthsei kai as eimaste
h 10h xwra ths EU, kai kanenas den paradexetai thn
proswpikh tou eu8unh.

oso gia ta tyria, aplws entypwsiasthka me thn poikila
pou -omologw- den h3era oti uphrxe. Bre8hka stou
basilopoulou kai ta'xasa. Kai auto kako einai? Kai ta
af8ona kai wraia krasia, kai auto kako einai?
toulaxiston auta den kanoun 4 eurw ana treis roufi3ies
opws kanei o espresso kai o filtrou kafes ana ta
mparoutokapnismena kafeneia ths prwteuousas.

auta ta oliga giati hdh poly milhsa.

Nektarios Tranos

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Jan 16, 2006, 8:30:01 AM1/16/06

Ans kai den eimai kapnisths sigoura to kopsidi thelei
xeri kai ligda :- )).
O plastikos dutikos tropos zwhs den einai gia ton
Elhhna , na xesw Londina
kai Parisia mprosta sta "kala ths Antonias " ( topikh
taberna sto xwrio mou ).

V. Farmaki

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Jan 16, 2006, 9:30:01 AM1/16/06

Epeidh eisai tsantila ki arpaxthkes me afta pou egrapsa, den se pare3hgw,
apla gelasa m' afta pou grafeis :-)
Giati otan grafete eseis oi episkeptes tis entypwseis sas einai san na
diavazw kritikes gia allh xwra.
Vgainw e3w na dw ta skata na mhn glystrhsw alla gia thn wra den ta petyxa.
Pou tha mou pane? sto xeri tous einai?
Ki epeidh ola pia toso skata kai tipota orthio as
arxisw ap to pio shmantiko pounai to
Armani pou fora olos o ellhnikos laos. Edw thelw na sou pw pws ston
evrytero kyklo twn gnwstwn kai agnwstwn den vlepw kanenan na fora tetoio
rouxalaki giati tha faei sfyrigma, alla h polh
touth exei kai 5 ekatommyria trellous
den tha yparxoun kai 5-20 xiliades xazoleftades
na synthroun tetoia magazia? Sigoura.
Ki afta ta magazia pou tha pane sto Keratsini?
sto Kolwnaki kai ta gyrwthen pou lene tha
mostraroun. Ki Armani exei ki oti thes kai pothei h psyxoula sou.
Kai pswnares den eimaste otan as poume pswnizoume
ki ap tou Hermes, giati kaka ta
psemmata exei kai gamw to gousto! Ki antigrafeis
den eimaste giati tote antigrafeis einai ki'
oi antistoixoi amerikanoi ki evrwpaioi pou ama
theloun na ntythoun kala, ekei pane.
Oxi osa den ftanei h alepou.. :-) Ki an ennoeis
antigrafeis genikotera, poios laos den einai?
Opoios prwtos vgazei kati pou aresei para pera
fysiko einai na antigrafetai kai na efarmozetai.

Twra oso gia tis egkefalikes metalla3eis pou
mporei na pathei kaneis zwntas e3w, tha
symfwnhsw pws den einai oti kallitero na sou
trypa o thoryvos ths mousikhs ta aftia.
Alla afto pali afora ta magazia kai ta
diaskedastika stekia. E, den pas na akouseis laiko
asma sto psithyristo, giati ti na kanoume, den se fteiaxnei :-)
Opws den mporeis na akouseis kai klassikh mousikh
sto spiti sou sto xamhlo ki as
mhn exei ore3h o apokatw na symmetexei sthn mousikh sou pandesia.
Kai frikth h mousikh mas den einai. Se ola ta
krath o mpakses diathetei ap ola.
Giati akoume ap ola. Ki an valeis radio, do3a tw thew taxoume mpolika,
akous mousikh se oti gousto thes. Kai den eipa
pote afth einai kai s' opoion aresei,
giati mousikh einai afth kai se gousta den mpainei oute se anegkefalies!
Dhladh yparxei kai egkefalikh mousikh? :-)

Profanws den vgainei pia kalh nea mousikh alla afto einai se pagkosmio epipedo.
Pouthena den yparxoun kaloi ektelestes, tragoudistes, synthetes.
Malakies kykloforoun pantou. Omws par ola afta exoume akoma kalh mousikh
makrya ap afta pou aneferes kai pou akougetai thavmasia. Kai
elafra mousikh kai laikh kai entexnh.

Meta na se rwthsw giati thewreis pws
vafkalizomaste! Vafkalizetai kaneis otan einai
efxaristhmenos me ton tropo kai ston topo pou zei??
'h pisteveis oti vafkalizetai apo agnoia 'h
vlakeia? Etyxe naxoume kanei ta ta3idakia mas
naxoume zhsei ki e3w kai naxoume dei pente
pragmata. Efkairia solous dinetai kapoia
stigmh sthn zwh tous, an theloun, na zhsoun opou theloun.
Afto fysika exei na kanei kai me epiloges zwhs. Ola den mporoume na taxoume
pouthena. Se emas aresei afto pou einai edw opws
einai. Kai tous katsoufiarhdes
pou les, nai, tha tous deis thn mera sthn trexala
ths routinas opws ap oti 3erw, pantou
ston kosmo. Den thymamai pouthena allou nanai
xaroumenoi kai gelastoi oi anthrwpoi
ths polhs.

To provlhma ap oti katalavainw einai oti enopxlei
genikws oti den exoume mpei se
koutakia. Tha to pathoume ki afto, alla eftyxws vlepw na argoume.

Kata t' alla, kontra se statistikes kai se
analyseis kai par oles tis dyskolies, ta kala einai
perissotera ap ta kaka kai eimaste mia xara.
Opoion akous na klaigetai einai giati den
exei deftero e3oxiko kai trito aftokinhto. Makari
na pernate oloi ekei pou eisaste toso
kala oso ki emeis pou zoume edw ki as exoume kai
kanena skatomeno pezodromio :-)

veatrikh

V. Farmaki

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At 02:45 мм 16/1/2006, Nektarios Tranos wrote:

> Ans kai den eimai kapnisths sigoura to kopsidi thelei
>xeri kai ligda :- )).
>O plastikos dutikos tropos zwhs den einai gia ton
>Elhhna , na xesw Londina
>kai Parisia mprosta sta "kala ths Antonias " ( topikh
>taberna sto xwrio mou ).

Aftos eisai.. empaine :-)
Ax namastan kata Antwnia meria twra...

veatrikh

Zero Gara

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Egw de milhsa gia kammia magkia, apantousa stous en'Amerikh antidrastikous pou an den exeis paei exoun diaxwrisei to plh0ismo se 2 megala koinwnikes omades, mh kapnistes kai "arrwstous, tipotenious, parakatianous"!
Se kanena allo meros tou kosmou den uparxei autou tou eidous h diakrish pou uparxei sthn Amerikh kai eidika apo thn astikh ta3h.
Kai to kerasaki sthn upokrisia einai oti einai entelws apodekto na kapnisei pouro kapoios h" pipa! To tsigaro omws einai to analogo sthn Eurwph na ka0esai sth mesh tou dromou kai na trompareis iro'inh.
Esu men mporei na mhn to katalabes olo auto kai xwraei polu suzhthsh alla tou Petropoulou kai ths Lhdas h kritikh apo eku proerxetai.
Giati ekte0hkan ston kapno; Giati polloi apo tous gnwstous tous sthn Ellada kapnizoun kai anti na poun emeis de mpenoume eku mesa ka0hsan kai roufi3an thn kapna kai mas thn lene emas twra.
Enw sthn Amerika den ton pernei ton filo tous pou kapnizei na pei kapnizw giati ntrepetai! Kai autou tou eidous h koinwnikh katastash einai apodekth!
H Ellada exei to xali!

De 3erw ti ginetai sth Portogalia se polla merh ths Eurwphs akoma einai nomimo na kapnizeis se estiatoria/bar klp. Alla ki eku pou apagoreutai den antimetwpizontai oi kapnistes san prezonia!

KoZmas >>>>>----------->

Spyros Daskaleas <spy...@SAPO.PT> wrote:Siga re Kosma na poyme dhladh eseis poy kapnizete eiste oi magkes ki emeis poy den kapnizoyme eimaste "apsyxa pro.i.onta mias biomhxanias"? Ela re siga

8a me piasoyn ta klammata kai 8'arxisw to kapnisma na ginw arrenwpos san ton
Fidel!

Anatrixiasa omws me tis perigrafes ths Sofias... Ti blaxia telika ayth h
Ellada pali kala emeis oi anwteroi fygame apo ayth th brwmia kai mporoyme na
leme stoys filoys mas se ti xali zoyn!

SCD

Em 1/13/06 10:50 PM, Zero Gara (zero...@yahoo.com) escreveu:

> To oti den kapnizete einai kalo kai gia sas kai gia tous gurw sas. To oti
> den kapnizete kai 0elete na EPIBLH0EI enas AMERIKANIKOS akapnos kosmos epeidh
> esas sas ton EPEBALAN kai to dexthkate einai mia ka0ara amerikanikh uperoyia
> tou emeis kanoume etsi kai kala 0a kanete na akolou0hsete tis modes mas.
> Dhstuxws gia tis amerikanikes sas giapikes sunh0eies (giati h amerikanikh
> ergatia de trabaei tetoia zoria) h Ellada den einai euxaristh. Exei omws
> wraia krasia kai thria. Kai patsa exei, trwte tetoio;
> Kai o kafes einai akribos giati den exoume oute Colombianous sklabous na
> mas promh0euoun, oute Me3ikanous na mas ton brazoun, alla kai polla alla den
> exoume!
> Epiishs den ekteloume kai bombardizoume a0wous gia na mopwlhsoume
> petrelaio, oute apeiloume tous as0ainesterous me to idio giati 0eloun na
> oplis0oun opws ki emeis.
> To kuriotero einai oti to YFAKI sas mas xwrizei se emas kai esas!
> Sth NY pou h piknothta ! plhuismou einai analogh ths A0hnas, kai spasmena
> pezodromeia exei, kai kourades exei, kai skoupidia, kai polla alla.
> Paramenei h monh polh ths Amerikhs me endei3eis an0rwpinou politismou kai oxi
> mias konserbopoihmenhs kthnwdias twn walmart kai twn 7-11!
> Ti na thn kanw egw thn "smoke free environment" otan oi an0rwpoi pou den
> kapnizoun einai kata suntriptiko poswsto san ayuxa proionta mias biomhxanias!
> Ti na thn kaneis thn wraia epidermida kai thn ugieinh zwh otan kaleisai na
> apodexteis organwmena stratopeda sugkentrwsews kai basanismou xwris na
> mporeis na antidraseis.
>

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<div id="RTEContent">Egw de milhsa gia kammia magkia, apantousa stous en'Amerikh antidrastikous pou an den exeis paei exoun diaxwrisei to plh0ismo se 2 megala koinwnikes omades, mh kapnistes kai "arrwstous, tipotenious, parakatianous"! Se kanena allo meros tou kosmou den uparxei autou tou eidous h diakrish pou uparxei sthn Amerikh kai eidika apo thn astikh ta3h. Kai to kerasaki sthn upokrisia einai oti einai entelws apodekto na kapnisei pouro kapoios h" pipa!  To tsigaro omws einai to analogo sthn Eurwph na ka0esai sth mesh tou dromou kai na trompareis iro'inh. Esu men mporei na mhn to katalabes olo auto kai xwraei polu suzhthsh alla tou Petropoulou kai ths Lhdas h kritikh apo eku proerxetai. Giati ekte0hkan ston kapno;  Giati polloi apo tous gnwstous tous sthn Ellada kapnizoun kai anti na poun emeis de mpenoume eku mesa ka0hsan kai roufi3an thn kapna kai mas thn lene emas twra. Enw sthn Amerika den ton pernei ton filo tous pou kapn!
izei na
pei kapnizw giati ntrepetai!  Kai autou tou eidous h koinwnikh katastash einai apodekth! H Ellada exei to xali! De 3erw ti ginetai sth Portogalia se polla merh ths Eurwphs akoma einai nomimo na kapnizeis se estiatoria/bar klp.  Alla ki eku pou apagoreutai den antimetwpizontai oi kapnistes san prezonia! KoZmas  >>>>>-----------> Spyros Daskaleas <spy...@SAPO.PT> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">Siga re Kosma na poyme dhladh eseis poy kapnizete eiste oi magkes ki emeis poy den kapnizoyme eimaste "apsyxa pro.i.onta mias biomhxanias"? Ela re siga 8a me piasoyn ta klammata kai 8'arxisw to kapnisma na ginw arrenwpos san ton Fidel! Anatrixiasa omws me tis perigrafes ths Sofias... Ti blaxia telika ayth h Ellada pali kala emeis oi anwteroi fygame apo ayth th brwmia kai mporoyme na le!
me stoys
filoys mas se ti xali zoyn! SCD Em 1/13/06 10:50 PM, Zero Gara (zero...@yahoo.com) escreveu: > To oti den kapnizete einai kalo kai gia sas kai gia tous gurw sas. To oti > den kapnizete kai 0elete na EPIBLH0EI enas AMERIKANIKOS akapnos kosmos epeidh > esas sas ton EPEBALAN kai to dexthkate einai mia ka0ara amerikanikh uperoyia > tou emeis kanoume etsi kai kala 0a kanete na akolou0hsete tis modes mas. > Dhstuxws gia tis amerikanikes sas giapikes sunh0eies (giati h amerikanikh > ergatia de trabaei tetoia zoria) h Ellada den einai euxaristh. Exei omws > wraia krasia kai thria. Kai patsa exei, trwte tetoio; > Kai o kafes einai akribos giati den exoume oute Colombianous sklabous na > mas promh0euoun, oute Me3ikanous na mas ton brazoun, alla kai polla alla den > exoume! > Epiishs den ekteloume kai bombardizoume a0wous gia na mopwlhsoume > petrelaio, oute apeiloume tous
as0ainesterous me to idio giati 0eloun na > oplis0oun opws ki emeis. > To kuriotero einai oti to YFAKI sas mas xwrizei se emas kai esas! > Sth NY pou h piknothta ! plhuismou einai analogh ths A0hnas, kai spasmena > pezodromeia exei, kai kourades exei, kai skoupidia, kai polla alla. > Paramenei h monh polh ths Amerikhs me endei3eis an0rwpinou politismou kai oxi > mias konserbopoihmenhs kthnwdias twn walmart kai twn 7-11! > Ti na thn kanw egw thn "smoke free environment" otan oi an0rwpoi pou den > kapnizoun einai kata suntriptiko poswsto san ayuxa proionta mias biomhxanias! > Ti na thn kaneis thn wraia epidermida kai thn ugieinh zwh otan kaleisai na > apodexteis organwmena stratopeda sugkentrwsews kai basanismou xwris na > mporeis na antidraseis. > </blockquote> </div>

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Kai pou'sai akoma. Twra 0a sulambavovtai kai goveis pou odngouv kai
kapvizouv kai exouv mikra paidakia mesa sto autokivnto (edw stnv Cali
ndn exouv arxisei kai mpouzouriazouv aveu0uvous goveis sav tnv partu
sas). Edw de stis paralies tou Southern Bay apagoreuetai to kapvisma apo
fetos. Pou 0a pate re skoulikia 0a sas e3ovtwsoume, me ta kitriviasmeva
dovtia, daxtula, kai tis maurideres kai rutidiasmeves skatofatses
sas......(pou eivai o Paparas va 3avavoi3ei ta kelia kai ta upogeia
basavistnria?)

=20

Gi'auto to mnvuma me pnre proswpika tnlefwvo o 0amvos va me
suvxarei.....

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Tseligkas

Eat a commi for mommi !!! (Pevtakalour erxomaste kai stnv geitovia sou
re paliopoustn...)

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Enw sthn Amerika den ton pernei ton filo tous pou kapn! izei na pei

kapnizw giati ntrepetai! Kai autou tou eidous h koinwnikh katastash
einai apodekth!
H Ellada exei to xali!

De 3erw ti ginetai sth Portogalia se polla merh ths Eurwphs akoma einai
nomimo na kapnizeis se estiatoria/bar klp. Alla ki eku pou apagoreutai
den antimetwpizontai oi kapnistes san prezonia!

KoZmas >>>>>----------->

Spyros Daskaleas <spy...@SAPO.PT> wrote:

Siga re Kosma na poyme dhladh eseis poy kapnizete eiste oi magkes ki
emeis poy den kapnizoyme eimaste "apsyxa pro.i.onta mias biomhxanias"?
Ela re siga
8a me piasoyn ta klammata kai 8'arxisw to kapnisma na ginw arrenwpos san
ton
Fidel!

Anatrixiasa omws me tis perigrafes ths Sofias... Ti blaxia telika ayth h
Ellada pali kala emeis oi anwteroi fygame apo ayth th brwmia kai
mporoyme na

le! me stoys filoys mas se ti xali zoyn!

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Kai pou’sai akoma. Twra 0a
sulambavovtai kai goveis pou odngouv kai kapvizouv kai exouv mikra =
paidakia
mesa sto autokivnto (edw stnv Cali ndn exouv arxisei kai mpouzouriazouv
aveu0uvous goveis sav tnv partu sas). Edw de stis paralies tou Southern =
Bay
apagoreuetai to kapvisma apo fetos. Pou 0a pate re skoulikia 0a sas
e3ovtwsoume, me ta kitriviasmeva dovtia, daxtula, kai tis maurideres kai
rutidiasmeves skatofatses sas……(pou eivai o Paparas va =
3avavoi3ei
ta kelia kai ta upogeia basavistnria?)

<span =
style=3D'font-size:

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gi’auto to mnvuma me pnre =
proswpika
tnlefwvo o 0amvos va me suvxarei…..

Tseligkas

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Eat a commi for mommi !!! =
(Pevtakalour
erxomaste kai stnv geitovia sou re paliopoustn…)

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From:<font =
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face=3DTahoma> The =
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Discussion List [mailto:HEL...@lists.psu.edu] On
Behalf Of Zero Gara 
Sent: Monday, January 16, =
2006
6:04 AM 
To: =

HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU 
Subject: Re: Agorastikes
evtupwseis (suvexeia prongoumevou)

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12.0pt'>Egw de milhsa gia kammia magkia, apantousa stous en'Amerikh
antidrastikous pou an den exeis paei exoun diaxwrisei to plh0ismo se 2 =
megala
koinwnikes omades, mh kapnistes kai "arrwstous, tipotenious,
parakatianous"! 
Se kanena allo meros tou kosmou den uparxei autou tou eidous h diakrish =

pou
uparxei sthn Amerikh kai eidika apo thn astikh ta3h.

Kai to kerasaki sthn upokrisia einai oti einai entelws apodekto na =
kapnisei
pouro kapoios h" pipa!  To tsigaro omws einai to analogo sthn =

Eurwph
na ka0esai sth mesh tou dromou kai na trompareis iro'inh.

Esu men mporei na mhn to katalabes olo auto kai xwraei polu suzhthsh =

alla tou
Petropoulou kai ths Lhdas h kritikh apo eku proerxetai.

Giati ekte0hkan ston kapno;  Giati polloi apo tous gnwstous tous =

sthn
Ellada kapnizoun kai anti na poun emeis de mpenoume eku mesa ka0hsan kai
roufi3an thn kapna kai mas thn lene emas twra.

Enw sthn Amerika den ton pernei ton filo tous pou kapn! izei na pei =
kapnizw giati ntrepetai!  Kai autou tou eidous h koinwnikh =

katastash einai
apodekth! 
H Ellada exei to xali!

De 3erw ti ginetai sth Portogalia se polla merh ths Eurwphs akoma einai =
nomimo
na kapnizeis se estiatoria/bar klp.  Alla ki eku pou apagoreutai =

den
antimetwpizontai oi kapnistes san prezonia! 
 
KoZmas  >>>>>----------->

Spyros =
Daskaleas
<spy...@SAPO.PT> wrote:

<span =
style=3D'font-size:

12.0pt'>Siga re Kosma na poyme dhladh eseis poy kapnizete eiste oi =
magkes ki
emeis poy den kapnizoyme eimaste "apsyxa pro.i.onta mias
biomhxanias"? Ela re siga 
8a me piasoyn ta klammata kai 8'arxisw to kapnisma na ginw arrenwpos san =

ton 
Fidel!

Anatrixiasa omws me tis perigrafes ths Sofias... Ti blaxia telika ayth =
h 
Ellada pali kala emeis oi anwteroi fygame apo ayth th brwmia kai =

mporoyme na 
le! me stoys filoys mas se ti xali zoyn! 
 
SCD 
 
Em 1/13/06 10:50 PM, Zero Gara (zero...@yahoo.com) escreveu:

> To oti den kapnizete einai kalo kai gia sas kai gia tous gurw sas. =
To oti 
> den kapnizete kai 0elete na EPIBLH0EI enas AMERIKANIKOS akapnos =

kosmos
epeidh 
> esas sas ton EPEBALAN kai to dexthkate einai mia ka0ara amerikanikh
uperoyia

> tou emeis kanoume etsi kai kala 0a kanete na akolou0hsete tis modes =
mas. 
> Dhstuxws gia tis amerikanikes sas giapikes sunh0eies (giati h =
amerikanikh 
> ergatia de trabaei tetoia zoria) h Ellada den einai euxaristh. Exei =

omws 
> wraia krasia kai thria. Kai patsa exei, trwte tetoio;

> Kai o kafes einai akribos giati den exoume oute Colombianous =
sklabous na 
> mas promh0euoun, oute Me3ikanous na mas ton brazoun, alla kai polla =

alla
den 
> exoume!

> Epiishs den ekteloume kai bombardizoume a0wous gia na =
mopwlhsoume 
> petrelaio, oute apeiloume tous as0ainesterous me to idio giati =

0eloun na 
> oplis0oun opws ki emeis.

> To kuriotero einai oti to YFAKI sas mas xwrizei se emas kai =
esas! 
> Sth NY pou h piknothta ! plhuismou einai analogh ths A0hnas, kai =
spasmena 
> pezodromeia exei, kai kourades exei, kai skoupidia, kai polla =
alla. 
> Paramenei h monh polh ths Amerikhs me endei3eis an0rwpinou =

politismou kai
oxi 
> mias konserbopoihmenhs kthnwdias twn walmart kai twn 7-11!

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Zero Gara wrote:
> Se kanena allo meros tou kosmou den uparxei autou tou eidous h diakrish
> pou uparxei sthn Amerikh kai eidika apo thn astikh ta3h.

Dev afnvoume ta "se kaveva meros tou kosmou" lew egw; Afou dev ta exoume
dei oooooola ta mern tou kosmou. Ki ap'oso 3eroume oloi mas, stnv
Irlavdia apagoreuetai to kapvisma pavtou apo persi, ki isws apo fetos va
aapgoreutei ki edw pera. Kai n empeiria mou apo UK eivai oti oi
kapvistes, pera apo to oti plnrwvouv xruso to ka0e paketo tsigara, paf
kai talnro (dnladn pevtoliro), av 0elouv va kapvisouv 0a prepei va bgouv
e3w. Stis plaives eisodous twv ktiriwv grafeiwv, mesa sto kruo, to
xiovi, t'agiazi kai tnv pagwvia (apo tn dikn mas tnv apovia), ka0ovtai
oi kapvistes tourtourizovtas kai kapvizouv evw oi perastikoi tous
rixvouv eirwvika blemmata.
Pera apo auto omws, otav leei kapou oti apagoreuetai to kapvisma tote
APAGOREYETAI TO KAPNISMA kai teleiwse. Alliws arxizouv ta prostima. Evw
stnv Ellada... Eleu0erios Bevizelos, pevte to prwi sto xwro paralabns
aposkeuwv, ka0etai o allos katw apo tnv tampela "apagoreuetai to
kapvisma, prostimo 50 eurw", dipla sto sustnma purasfaleias kai avabei
tsigaro me kivduvo va balei mpros to marafeti kai va mas lousei prwi
prwi olous, kai dev emfavizetai apo pou0eva kavevas va tou zntnsei ta
pevnvta eurw, va to 0umatai. Dnladn 0a prepei va piasei kamia fwtia, va
givouv 3eroynmevoi kamia eikosaria av0rwpoi gia va ma0ouv va mnv
kapvizouv sta bevzivadika (to exw dei) 'n stov upogeio (eutuxws DEN to
exw dei teleutaia, alla paliotera to eblepa);

> Kai to kerasaki sthn upokrisia einai oti einai entelws apodekto na
> kapnisei pouro kapoios h" pipa!

Oxi dev eivai, av kai gevika eivai ligotero evoxlntiko apo tov kapvo twv
Kiretsiler.

Periklhs

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--- "V. Farmaki" <easyt...@HOL.GR> wrote:

> Vgainw e3w na dw ta skata na mhn glystrhsw alla gia thn wra den ta
> petyxa.
> Pou tha mou pane? sto xeri tous einai?

Xe xe an 8ymamai kala h Lhda eixe grapsei paliotera oti anaferotan sto
Palio Falhro? Den kserw gia alla merh ths A8hnas alla ekei, lypamai pou
8a se apogohteusw Beatrikh mou, etsi einai. Menw ekei ta kalokairia pou
paw Ellada kai prepei na perpatas me to kefali katw. Perna kamia bolta
stous dromous konta sto rema ths Pikrodafnhs kai 8a deis.

Metaksy tou antikapnistikou fasismou ths USA kai tou kapnistikou
fasismou sthn Ellada den yparxei enas mesos dromos pou na sebetai kai
to dikaiwma tou allou na kapnizei xwris na ais8anetai poliths g
kathgorias, alla kai to diko mou to dikaiwma na mhn trww ton kapno tou
sth mourh mou se kleistous xwrous?

Sophia

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V. Farmaki wrote:
> Giati otan grafete eseis oi episkeptes tis entypwseis sas einai san na
> diavazw kritikes gia allh xwra.

Ela re Bea, eipame va leme kai kamia avonsia, alla oxi kai va mas
bgaleis strabous ki apo pavw. Dnladn amfiballeis oti auta pou egraya egw
(ase tn Lnda gia tnv wra) eivai aln0eia; Oti dnladn alla suvebaivav gurw
mou ki alla avtilambavomouv;

> Armani pou fora olos o ellhnikos laos. Edw thelw na sou pw pws ston
> evrytero kyklo twn gnwstwn kai agnwstwn den vlepw kanenan na fora tetoio
> rouxalaki giati tha faei sfyrigma, alla h polh touth exei kai 5
> ekatommyria trellous
> den tha yparxoun kai 5-20 xiliades xazoleftades na synthroun tetoia
> magazia?

Autoi etsi ki alliws ta ywvizouv apo ta e3wterika opou exouv deka
spitia. Egw 3erw oti n 3aderfn mou p.x ekave idiaitera olo to kalokairi
kai pnge ki agorase eva magiw stis ekptwseis pros eva bdomadiatiko. Kai
dev eivai kaveva pitsiriki pou to taizouv oi goveis kai paei kai trwei
to xartziliki, guvaika 35 xrovwv eivai, mntera evos paidiou me suzugo
avergo. Kai n filn mou exei mia bitriva mexri to tabavi spiti tns me
Sbarofski, giati leei eivai melos kai agorazei ta sullektika kommatia.
Oute autn eivai apo kamia oikogeveia leftadwv, dnmosioi upallnloi ki
autn ki o avtras tns, goveis triwv paidiwv.

Giati dev eixame Armani kai Hermes kai ola auta priv apo eikosi xrovia;
Giait tote ONTWS upnrxav pevte-deka xiliades leftades kai DEN EBGAINAN
ta magazia movo me autous. Twra bgaivouv giati exouv polu megalutern
pelateia.

> Oxi osa den ftanei h alepou.. :-) Ki an ennoeis antigrafeis genikotera,
> poios laos den einai?

Mwre avtigrafeis as eimaste, alla va avtigrafoume kai kaveva kalo.

> Kai frikth h mousikh mas den einai.

Dustuxws Bea, n laikn mousikn (kai xrnsimopoiw tov oro evvowvtas "pop
music") eivai akribws n idia me olo tov allo kosmo. Ki edw sto UK exoume
Bavdn, Bissn, Znva kai Rouba. Apla legovtai alliws. Alla tragoudave
akribws ta idia. Giati oi etairies pou tous prow0ouv kai tous plasarouv
eivia oi idies kai douleuouv me tov idio tropo. Epomevws gia poia
ellnvikn mousikn milame;

> Dhladh yparxei kai egkefalikh mousikh? :-)

w, vai!

> Meta na se rwthsw giati thewreis pws vafkalizomaste! Vafkalizetai kaneis
> otan einai
> efxaristhmenos me ton tropo kai ston topo pou zei??

Apavtaw egw kat'e3airesn :-)) Nai. Giati kaveis de zei stov paradeiso.
Kai n pleioynfia twv av0rwpwv dev exei epiloges tou stul "ama de sou
aresei edw, pngaive allou". Mn geliomaste. Opote dev isxuei to "emas ams
aresei etsi", afou n pleioynfia dev 3erei to allou.

> To provlhma ap oti katalavainw einai oti enopxlei genikws oti den exoume
> mpei se > koutakia. Tha to pathoume ki afto, alla eftyxws vlepw na argoume.

De blepeis kala Bea, ta koutakia uparxouv kai upnrxav, apla epeidn eivai
koutakia prosarmosmeva sta gousta sas (opws upodeikvuouv dmoskopnseis
kai loipes koivwviologikes meletes) dev ta blepete kai vomizete oti dev
uparxouv. Tnv epomevn fora pou 0a dwseis ta lefta sou gia rouxa Zara,
pou 0a pareis apo to Karfour eva kotopoulaki Pivdos kai mia tourtitsa me
plastikn savtigu xwris gala, priv pas spiti va parakolou0nseis to
teleutaio kataskeuasma tns Endemol kai va paraggeileis mia pitsa
Domino's, skeyou oti tis idies akribws agores, me tov idio akribws
tropo, me tis idies skeyeis klp klp kavei ki o Belgos, ki o Ollavdos ki
o Gallos ki o Soundos. To perituligma allazei, ola ta alla idia eivai.

Av mn ti allo, eva allo pou prose3a eivai oti n Ellada exei givei n xwra
tou franchise. 0a mou peis eivai franchise Grngorns ki oxi franchise
Burger King. E, kai; Diaforetiko perituligma.

>
> Kata t' alla, kontra se statistikes kai se analyseis kai par oles tis
> dyskolies, ta kala einai
> perissotera ap ta kaka kai eimaste mia xara.

Ama oi statistikes kai oi avaluseis leve to avti0eto, tote pws givetai
va eivia ta kala perissotera;

Opoion akous na klaigetai
> einai giati den
> exei deftero e3oxiko kai trito aftokinhto.

Nai, alla giati va klaigovtai, outws 'n allws;

Makari na pernate oloi ekei
> pou eisaste toso
> kala oso ki emeis pou zoume edw ki as exoume kai kanena skatomeno
> pezodromio :-)

Twra to ri3ame stnv avonsia gia xarn tns avonsias. O ka0evas mas pervaei
opws pervaei olos o kosmos pavtou. Dev uparxei kala 'n kalutera. Emeis
to ftiaxvoume to kalutero. Pavtou mporeis va exeis oikogeveiaka
problnmata, p.x. 'n problnmata ugeias. Kai tote ta koyidia stnv
kura-Avtwvia 'n pws alliws tn leve, de bon0ave.

Zero Gara

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Periklhs <b20...@YAHOO.COM> wrote: --- "V. Farmaki" wrote:

> Vgainw e3w na dw ta skata na mhn glystrhsw alla gia thn wra den ta
> petyxa.
> Pou tha mou pane? sto xeri tous einai?

Xe xe an 8ymamai kala h Lhda eixe grapsei paliotera oti anaferotan sto
Palio Falhro? Den kserw gia alla merh ths A8hnas alla ekei, lypamai pou
8a se apogohteusw Beatrikh mou, etsi einai. Menw ekei ta kalokairia pou
paw Ellada kai prepei na perpatas me to kefali katw. Perna kamia bolta
stous dromous konta sto rema ths Pikrodafnhs kai 8a deis.

Metaksy tou antikapnistikou fasismou ths USA kai tou kapnistikou
fasismou sthn Ellada den yparxei enas mesos dromos pou na sebetai kai
to dikaiwma tou allou na kapnizei xwris na ais8anetai poliths g
kathgorias, alla kai to diko mou to dikaiwma na mhn trww ton kapno tou
sth mourh mou se kleistous xwrous?

P.

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<div id="RTEContent">Oxi epeidh eisai paliofalhroths kai gauros alla epeidh eipes kati logiko se sugxerw ;) To problhma einai o aneparkhs e3aerismos kai o uperbolikos sunostismos se mai ai0ousa.  Toulaxistwn se kapoia shmeia ths UZAs pou egine kapoia organomenh antistash (apo katasthmatarxes kuriws) kai eginan e3aireseis tou kanona te0hke orio atomwn se ai0ousa kai ikanopoihtiko susthma e3aerismou. Bebaia kapoioi eklektoi polites ek KKKalifornias den 0a upobibazan tous eautous tous na episkeftoun tetoia kwloxania.  Mpas kai 0umasai to Downtown Beihrut sto lower East side, h" den to proftases; KoZmas  >>>>---------> Periklhs <b20...@YAHOO.COM> wrote: --- "V. Farmaki" wrote: > Vgainw e3w na dw ta skata na mhn glystrhsw alla gia thn wra den ta > petyxa. > Pou tha mou pane? sto xeri tous einai? Xe xe an 8ymamai kala h Lhda eixe grap!
sei
paliotera oti anaferotan sto Palio Falhro? Den kserw gia alla merh ths A8hnas alla ekei, lypamai pou 8a se apogohteusw Beatrikh mou, etsi einai. Menw ekei ta kalokairia pou paw Ellada kai prepei na perpatas me to kefali katw. Perna kamia bolta stous dromous konta sto rema ths Pikrodafnhs kai 8a deis. Metaksy tou antikapnistikou fasismou ths USA kai tou kapnistikou fasismou sthn Ellada den yparxei enas mesos dromos pou na sebetai kai to dikaiwma tou allou na kapnizei xwris na ais8anetai poliths g kathgorias, alla kai to diko mou to dikaiwma na mhn trww ton kapno tou sth mourh mou se kleistous xwrous? P. </div>

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Twra piaveis allo 0ema. Kai ekei omws kuriarxei to kafriliki tou
magazatora kai twv arxwv. Eivai movo 0ema tuxns pou dev exei parei fwtia
kaveva magazi va kaouv kamia 200aria kapvizovtes pavnli0ioi
elladopi0nkoi. Oi xwroi eivai polu mikroi, suvn0ws me eparkn e3aerismo
gia 80 atoma. Omws oi kafroi ta gemizouv me 300 + fougara elladopi0nkous
(pou dev exouv lefta va fave kai va vtu0ouve alla xalave 10-15 euro tnv
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eispratouv ta fakelakia gia va kavouv tous Kivezous stis parabiaseis
ka0e kwdika leitourgias twv kwloxaviwv. Kai ta perissotera eivai katwgia
me mia movo porta (evvonte e3odoi kivduvou eivai avuparktoi).=20

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Oxi epeidh eisai paliofalhroths kai gauros alla epeidh eipes kati logiko

se sugxerw ;)
To problhma einai o aneparkhs e3aerismos kai o uperbolikos sunostismos
se mai ai0ousa. Toulaxistwn se kapoia shmeia ths UZAs pou egine kapoia
organomenh antistash (apo katasthmatarxes kuriws) kai eginan e3aireseis
tou kanona te0hke orio atomwn se ai0ousa kai ikanopoihtiko susthma
e3aerismou.

Bebaia kapoioi eklektoi polites ek KKKalifornias den 0a upobibazan tous
eautous tous na episkeftoun tetoia kwloxania. Mpas kai 0umasai to
Downtown Beihrut sto lower East side, h" den to proftases;

KoZmas >>>>--------->

Periklhs <b20...@YAHOO.COM> wrote: --- "V. Farmaki" wrote:

> Vgainw e3w na dw ta skata na mhn glystrhsw alla gia thn wra den ta
> petyxa.
> Pou tha mou pane? sto xeri tous einai?

Xe xe an 8ymamai kala h Lhda eixe grap! sei paliotera oti anaferotan sto

Palio Falhro? Den kserw gia alla merh ths A8hnas alla ekei, lypamai pou
8a se apogohteusw Beatrikh mou, etsi einai. Menw ekei ta kalokairia pou
paw Ellada kai prepei na perpatas me to kefali katw. Perna kamia bolta
stous dromous konta sto rema ths Pikrodafnhs kai 8a deis.

sth mourh mou se kleistous xwrous?=20

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Twra piaveis allo 0ema. Kai ekei =
omws
kuriarxei to kafriliki tou magazatora kai twv arxwv. Eivai movo 0ema =
tuxns pou
dev exei parei fwtia kaveva magazi va kaouv kamia 200aria kapvizovtes
pavnli0ioi elladopi0nkoi. Oi xwroi eivai polu mikroi, suvn0ws me eparkn
e3aerismo gia 80 atoma. Omws oi kafroi ta gemizouv me 300 + fougara
elladopi0nkous (pou dev exouv lefta va fave kai va vtu0ouve alla xalave =
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kwdika leitourgias twv kwloxaviwv. Kai ta perissotera eivai katwgia me =
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12.0pt'>Oxi epeidh eisai paliofalhroths kai gauros alla epeidh eipes =

kati
logiko se sugxerw ;)

To problhma einai o aneparkhs e3aerismos kai o uperbolikos sunostismos =

se mai
ai0ousa.  Toulaxistwn se kapoia shmeia ths UZAs pou egine kapoia

organomenh antistash (apo katasthmatarxes kuriws) kai eginan e3aireseis =
tou
kanona te0hke orio atomwn se ai0ousa kai ikanopoihtiko susthma =
e3aerismou. 
 
Bebaia kapoioi eklektoi polites ek KKKalifornias den 0a upobibazan tous =

eautous
tous na episkeftoun tetoia kwloxania.  Mpas kai 0umasai to Downtown

Beihrut sto lower East side, h" den to proftases;

KoZmas  >>>>--------->

Periklhs
<b20...@YAHOO.COM> wrote: --- "V. =
Farmaki"
wrote: 
 
> Vgainw e3w na dw ta skata na mhn glystrhsw alla gia thn wra den =

ta 
> petyxa. 
> Pou tha mou pane? sto xeri tous einai?

Xe xe an 8ymamai kala h Lhda eixe grap! sei paliotera oti anaferotan =
sto 
Palio Falhro? Den kserw gia alla merh ths A8hnas alla ekei, lypamai =
pou 
8a se apogohteusw Beatrikh mou, etsi einai. Menw ekei ta kalokairia =
pou 
paw Ellada kai prepei na perpatas me to kefali katw. Perna kamia =

bolta 
stous dromous konta sto rema ths Pikrodafnhs kai 8a deis. 
 
Metaksy tou antikapnistikou fasismou ths USA kai tou kapnistikou

fasismou sthn Ellada den yparxei enas mesos dromos pou na sebetai =

kai 
to dikaiwma tou allou na kapnizei xwris na ais8anetai poliths g

kathgorias, alla kai to diko mou to dikaiwma na mhn trww ton kapno =

tou 
sth mourh mou se kleistous xwrous?

P.

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Gia ta magazia pou fantazomai anaferesai me ta 300+ kormia polla oute adeia leitourgias oute adeia poleodomias den exoun, to fire-exit se marane;
10-15 thn hmera? Pou briskesai; 2 Euro (2.5 US$) exei to Winston.
Karkinos; Mia polh san thn A0hna, Londino, LA klp exei atmosfaira analogh enos kapnisth sthn eparxia. To Londino exei kai 0anathforous tromompatsous, to LA oxi mono. Stis de geitonies to poluari0mwn metalourgikwn ergostasiwn ths Amerikas ta poswsta karkinopa0wn einai triplasia tou plh0ismou!
(No Smoking) pinakides polles, (No Working in steel mills) kammia!
0a me piasei kai to echelon kai 0a me karfwsei ston Aggelopoulo!
Koyte to tsigaro kai roufate Red Bull (Ygrh Coka)!!

Ki as to pame allou twra. Apagoreuetai to kapnisma sthn "paralia" tou Eirhnikou giati prokalei problhmata ugeias stous gurw "a0wous". Ki an anayeis tsigaro o diplanos sou 0a se katagghlei.
Posoi ap'autous kataggeloun oti sta kala twn ka0oumenwn, se xwrio tou Pakistan (mia filikh xwra) bombardizoun, skotwnoun 17 ki alla posa sta nosokomeia giati uphrxan plhrofories oti a3iomatouxos ths AlKaida 0a ekane episkeyh!
Prin 1 mhna h benzinh sto Maryland epese katw apo $2/gal dhaldh katw apo 0.50 Euro/litro, kai gia thn akribeia ths benzinhs oi Amerikanoi xtupiountai!

Katalabaineis giati briskw to koutouki me ta spasmena pezodromeia ap'e3w, me ta koyidia kai tis tsiknes, kai ta 8 anamena tsigara se ka0e staxto0hkh PIO an0rwpina apo thn Pina Colada stis paralies ths Californias!
Nai einai PIO politismena edw!

Den exei kourades sta pezodromeia tou Beverly Hills?
Ti lete re paidia, gemath h Amerikh apo ekatomuria KOPRANA einai!

Suyh kai sapila!

KoZmas >>>>--------------->

YG Nai nai 3erw... to kalo sapouni ginetai apo...... ase me re Lambro!

"Petropoulos, Lambros" <lambros.p...@WYLELABS.COM> wrote: Twra piaveis allo 0ema. Kai ekei omws kuriarxei to kafriliki tou magazatora kai twv arxwv. Eivai movo 0ema tuxns pou dev exei parei fwtia kaveva magazi va kaouv kamia 200aria kapvizovtes pavnli0ioi elladopi0nkoi. Oi xwroi eivai polu mikroi, suvn0ws me eparkn e3aerismo gia 80 atoma. Omws oi kafroi ta gemizouv me 300 + fougara elladopi0nkous (pou dev exouv lefta va fave kai va vtu0ouve alla xalave 10-15 euro tnv nmera gia tov karkivo) kai n elevgktes tou kratous + Purosbestikn aplws eispratouv ta fakelakia gia va kavouv tous Kivezous stis parabiaseis ka0e kwdika leitourgias twv kwloxaviwv. Kai ta perissotera eivai katwgia me mia movo porta (evvonte e3odoi kivduvou eivai avuparktoi).

Tseligkas

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From: The Hellenic Discussion List [mailto:HEL...@lists.psu.edu] On Behalf Of Zero Gara
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:57 AM
To: HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Agorastikes evtupwseis (suvexeia prongoumevou)

Oxi epeidh eisai paliofalhroths kai gauros alla epeidh eipes kati logiko se sugxerw ;)
To problhma einai o aneparkhs e3aerismos kai o uperbolikos sunostismos se mai ai0ousa. Toulaxistwn se kapoia shmeia ths UZAs pou egine kapoia organomenh antistash (apo katasthmatarxes kuriws) kai eginan e3aireseis tou kanona te0hke orio atomwn se ai0ousa kai ikanopoihtiko susthma e3aerismou.

Bebaia kapoioi eklektoi polites ek KKKalifornias den 0a upobibazan tous eautous tous na episkeftoun tetoia kwloxania. Mpas kai 0umasai to Downtown Beihrut sto lower East side, h" den to proftases;

KoZmas >>>>--------->

Periklhs <b20...@YAHOO.COM> wrote: --- "V. Farmaki" wrote:

> Vgainw e3w na dw ta skata na mhn glystrhsw alla gia thn wra den ta
> petyxa.
> Pou tha mou pane? sto xeri tous einai?

Xe xe an 8ymamai kala h Lhda eixe grap! sei paliotera oti anaferotan sto
Palio Falhro? Den kserw gia alla merh ths A8hnas alla ekei, lypamai pou
8a se apogohteusw Beatrikh mou, etsi einai. Menw ekei ta kalokairia pou
paw Ellada kai prepei na perpatas me to kefali katw. Perna kamia bolta
stous dromous konta sto rema ths Pikrodafnhs kai 8a deis.

Metaksy tou antikapnistikou fasismou ths USA kai tou kapnistikou
fasismou sthn Ellada den yparxei enas mesos dromos pou na sebetai kai
to dikaiwma tou allou na kapnizei xwris na ais8anetai poliths g
kathgorias, alla kai to diko mou to dikaiwma na mhn trww ton kapno tou
sth mourh mou se kleistous xwrous?

P.

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ap'autous kataggeloun oti sta kala twn ka0oumenwn, se xwrio tou Pakistan (mia filikh xwra) bombardizoun, skotwnoun 17 ki alla posa sta nosokomeia giati uphrxan plhrofories oti a3iomatouxos ths AlKaida 0a ekane episkeyh! Prin 1 mhna h benzinh sto Maryland epese katw apo $2/gal dhaldh katw apo 0.50 Euro/litro, kai gia thn akribeia ths benzinhs oi Amerikanoi xtupiountai! Katalabaineis giati briskw to koutouki me ta spasmena pezodromeia ap'e3w, me ta koyidia kai tis tsiknes, kai ta 8 anamena tsigara se ka0e staxto0hkh PIO an0rwpina apo thn Pina Colada stis paralies ths Californias! Nai einai PIO politismena edw! Den exei kourades sta pezodromeia tou Beverly Hills? Ti lete re paidia, gemath h Amerikh apo ekatomuria KOPRANA einai! Suyh kai sapila! KoZmas  >>>>---------------> YG  Nai nai 3erw... to kalo sapouni ginetai apo...... ase me re Lambro! "Petropoulos, Lambr!
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i polites
ek KKKalifornias den 0a upobibazan tous eautous tous na episkeftoun tetoia kwloxania.  Mpas kai 0umasai to Downtown Beihrut sto lower East side, h" den to proftases; KoZmas  >>>>---------> Periklhs <b20...@YAHOO.COM> wrote: --- "V. Farmaki" wrote: > Vgainw e3w na dw ta skata na mhn glystrhsw alla gia thn wra den ta > petyxa. > Pou tha mou pane? sto xeri tous einai? Xe xe an 8ymamai kala h Lhda eixe grap! sei paliotera oti anaferotan sto Palio Falhro? Den kserw gia alla merh ths A8hnas alla ekei, lypamai pou 8a se apogohteusw Beatrikh mou, etsi einai. Menw ekei ta kalokairia pou paw Ellada kai prepei na perpatas me to kefali katw. Perna kamia bolta stous dromous konta sto rema ths Pikrodafnhs kai 8a deis. Metaksy tou antikapnistikou fasismou ths USA kai tou kapnistikou f!
asismou
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>Gia ta magazia pou fantazomai anaferesai me ta 300+ kormia polla oute

adeia leitourgias oute adeia poleodomias den exoun,=20

>to fire-exit se marane;

Ola me peirazouv gi'auto kai dev paw.....

=20

>10-15 thn hmera? Pou briskesai; 2 Euro (2.5 US$) exei to Winston.
>Karkinos; Mia polh san thn A0hna, Londino, LA klp exei atmosfaira

analogh enos kapnisth sthn eparxia. To Londino exei kai=20

>0anathforous tromompatsous, to LA oxi mono. Stis de geitonies to

poluari0mwn metalourgikwn ergostasiwn ths Amerikas ta=20

>poswsta karkinopa0wn einai triplasia tou plh0ismou!

Dev 3erw poso kavouv, alla kai 2-3 eurw va kavouv, 2 paketa tnv nmera
epi 30 meres eivai pavw katw 180-200 eurw, dnladn eva trito tou basikou
mnviatikou.=20

Dev sou lew oti dev uparxei moluvsn re Gkazma, aplws lew oti va mas
leipei kai mia parapavw (o kapvos apo ta tsigara).=20

=20

>Ki as to pame allou twra. Apagoreuetai to kapnisma sthn "paralia" tou

Eirhnikou giati prokalei problhmata ugeias stous gurw "a0wous". =20

>Ki an anayeis tsigaro o diplanos sou 0a se katagghlei.

Yparxei polu moluvsn stov Eiriviko, auto omws dev snmaivei oti 0a
afnsoume tov ka0e mpaglama va mas libavizei pros0etovtas allo evav
kivduvo stnv ugeias mas.=20

=20

>Posoi ap'autous kataggeloun oti sta kala twn ka0oumenwn, se xwrio tou
Pakistan (mia filikh xwra) bombardizoun, skotwnoun 17 ki alla posa sta
>nosokomeia giati uphrxan plhrofories oti a3iomatouxos ths AlKaida 0a
ekane episkeyh!

=20

Mou pndas apo to eva 0ema sto allo alla gia tnv tampakiera omws
tipota.....

>Katalabaineis giati briskw to koutouki me ta spasmena pezodromeia
ap'e3w, me ta koyidia kai tis tsiknes, kai ta 8 anamena tsigara se ka0e
>staxto0hkh PIO an0rwpina apo thn Pina Colada stis paralies ths
Californias!
>Nai einai PIO politismena edw!

Twra megale mas ekaves skovn, pame va baloume fwtia sta diabatnria......

=20

>KoZmas >>>>--------------->

>YG Nai nai 3erw... to kalo sapouni ginetai apo...... ase me re Lambro!

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Re sy ti mperdeyeis ta pragmata? Einai 'h den einai elleipsh sebasmoy ston
mh-kapnisth diplano soy na royfas ta tsigara enw ekeinon ton enoxlei? Dhladh
ti se peirazei, to oti egine nomos? 3ereis giati egine nomos? Giati eseis oi
kapnistes enw phrate thn apofash sas na t'arxisete kai na to synexisete, den
mporeite na katalabete oti ekeino poy esas sas ftiaxnei enoxlei ton kosmo! E
pws na to kanoyme re sy!

Twra egw America den exw zhsei kai moy fainontai ligo geloia ayta poy
grafeis alla ti na pw. Edw poy zw, se politismenh xwra, kai xwra kapnistwn
isws kata 60% (kamia sxesh me ta foygara sthn Ellada) tetoio problhma den
exei ypar3ei. Ta estiatoreia pera apo kapoio mege8os exoyn zwnh kapnistwn.
Se mikrotera oi filoi moy xrhsimopoioyn TO MYALO TOYS kai skeftontai "8a
enoxlhsw an kapnisw"? E, an doyn oti 8a enoxlhsoyn, den kapnizoyn.

De mas eipes gia to kapnisma sta nosokomeia omws, isws ki ayto 8a prepei na
epitrapei, sygnwmh, na epiblh8ei, giati toy Ellhna o traxhlos zygo den
ypomenei!

SCD

Em 1/16/06 10:23 PM, Zero Gara (zero...@yahoo.com) escreveu:

> Gia ta magazia pou fantazomai anaferesai me ta 300+ kormia polla oute adeia

> leitourgias oute adeia poleodomias den exoun, to fire-exit se marane;

> 10-15 thn hmera? Pou briskesai; 2 Euro (2.5 US$) exei to Winston.
> Karkinos; Mia polh san thn A0hna, Londino, LA klp exei atmosfaira analogh

> enos kapnisth sthn eparxia. To Londino exei kai 0anathforous tromompatsous,

> to LA oxi mono. Stis de geitonies to poluari0mwn metalourgikwn ergostasiwn

> ths Amerikas ta poswsta karkinopa0wn einai triplasia tou plh0ismou!
> (No Smoking) pinakides polles, (No Working in steel mills) kammia!
> 0a me piasei kai to echelon kai 0a me karfwsei ston Aggelopoulo!
> Koyte to tsigaro kai roufate Red Bull (Ygrh Coka)!!
>

> Ki as to pame allou twra. Apagoreuetai to kapnisma sthn "paralia" tou

> Eirhnikou giati prokalei problhmata ugeias stous gurw "a0wous". Ki an

> anayeis tsigaro o diplanos sou 0a se katagghlei.

> Posoi ap'autous kataggeloun oti sta kala twn ka0oumenwn, se xwrio tou
> Pakistan (mia filikh xwra) bombardizoun, skotwnoun 17 ki alla posa sta
> nosokomeia giati uphrxan plhrofories oti a3iomatouxos ths AlKaida 0a ekane
> episkeyh!

> Prin 1 mhna h benzinh sto Maryland epese katw apo $2/gal dhaldh katw apo
> 0.50 Euro/litro, kai gia thn akribeia ths benzinhs oi Amerikanoi xtupiountai!
>

> Katalabaineis giati briskw to koutouki me ta spasmena pezodromeia ap'e3w,
> me ta koyidia kai tis tsiknes, kai ta 8 anamena tsigara se ka0e staxto0hkh
> PIO an0rwpina apo thn Pina Colada stis paralies ths Californias!
> Nai einai PIO politismena edw!
>

> Den exei kourades sta pezodromeia tou Beverly Hills?
> Ti lete re paidia, gemath h Amerikh apo ekatomuria KOPRANA einai!
>
> Suyh kai sapila!
>

> KoZmas >>>>--------------->
>
> YG Nai nai 3erw... to kalo sapouni ginetai apo...... ase me re Lambro!
>

Spyros Daskaleas

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Em 1/17/06 9:17 AM, Bobolos George (gb...@INTRACOM.GR) escreveu:

> Ares mares koukouvares, opws pavta allwste.

Ela re! Ebala ta klammata twra!

> Sxoliasa to mnvuma sou, opou EMEIS eimaste OI KAPNISTES ki' ESEIS eisaste O
> KOSMOS. Kai se rwtnsa av EMEIS oi kapvistes eimaste kosmos n' kati allo. Ep'
> autou exeis va mou peis kati ??

Ti na pw... Se peira3e dhladh to sxhma logoy poy xrhsimopoihsa? Enta3ei
EIMASTE OLOI ADERFIA!

> Fusika kai exeis ta idia dikaiwmata m' emeva. Fusika kai exeis ka8e dikaiwma
> va mnv avexesai tov kapvo ap' to tsigaro mou. Fusika kai exeis dikaiwma va
> avapveeis tov idio aera pou avapvew ki' egw. Auta ola omws va mnv ta les s'
> emeva. Na pas va ta peis stous idioktntes twv katastnmatwv ekeivw pou exouv
> tis 8eseis kapvistwv kai mn kapvistwv dipla - dipla. Egw eva trapezi opou
> mporw va kapvisw zntaw ka8e fora ki' ekei exw ka8e dikaiwma va kapvisw eva
> fortngo tsigara ama goustarw, opws allwste mou epitrepei kai o vomos. Av
> esu, pou ka8esai dipla mou se trapezi mn kapvistwv, evoxleisai, ta parapova
> sou sto katstnma, oxi s' emeva.

ZHTW O POLITISMOS!

SCD

> giwrgos

>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Spyros Daskaleas [mailto:spy...@sapo.pt]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:09 AM
>> To: Bobolos George; HEL...@lists.psu.edu
>> Subject: Re: Agorastikes evtupwseis (suvexeia prongoumevou)
>>
>>

>> Re Mpompole otan ayto poy kaneis enoxlei to diplano soy einai elleipsh
>> sebasmoy 'h oxi? De me enoxlei emena an kapnizeis 'h oxi, arkei an soy pw
>> oti me enoxlei na katalabeis oti exw ki egw to dikaiwma, ws mh
>> kapnisths, na
>> anapnew ton idio aera me sena.
>>
>> Lew dhladh egw "file me enoxlei to tsigaro soy" ki esy apantas "dhmokratia
>> exoyme". ZHTW H LOGIKH!
>>
>> SCD
>>
>>
>> Em 1/17/06 9:03 AM, Bobolos George (gb...@intracom.gr) escreveu:
>>
>>> Ekeivo pou EMAS (tous kapvistes dnladn) MAS FTIAXNEI (siga re
>> Daskalea, dev
>>> trupiomaste ki' olas, eva tsigaraki kapvizoume), evoxlei TON KOSMO
>>> (ouaouuuuuu pou leve ki' ekei sto Amerika pou zei o filos mou,
>> o uperavw, o
>>> Skeboulns vte). Giati re Daskalea, EMEIS oi kapvistes DEN EIMASTE KOSMOS
>>> dnladn ???
>>> Gia des re paidi mou mia periergn avtilnyn tns dnmokratias ekei stnv
>>> politismevn Dusn .....
>>> giwrgos
>>
>>
>>
>

Spyros Daskaleas

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Jan 17, 2006, 4:30:05 AM1/17/06

Bobolos George

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Jan 17, 2006, 4:30:04 AM1/17/06

> Re sy ti mperdeyeis ta pragmata? Einai 'h den einai elleipsh sebasmoy ston
> mh-kapnisth diplano soy na royfas ta tsigara enw ekeinon ton
> enoxlei? Dhladh
> ti se peirazei, to oti egine nomos? 3ereis giati egine nomos?
> Giati eseis oi
> kapnistes enw phrate thn apofash sas na t'arxisete kai na to
> synexisete, den
> mporeite na katalabete oti ekeino poy esas sas ftiaxnei enoxlei
> ton kosmo! E
> pws na to kanoyme re sy!

Ekeivo pou EMAS (tous kapvistes dnladn) MAS FTIAXNEI (siga re Daskalea, dev

Bobolos George

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Jan 17, 2006, 4:30:06 AM1/17/06

Ares mares koukouvares, opws pavta allwste.

Sxoliasa to mnvuma sou, opou EMEIS eimaste OI KAPNISTES ki' ESEIS eisaste O
KOSMOS. Kai se rwtnsa av EMEIS oi kapvistes eimaste kosmos n' kati allo. Ep'
autou exeis va mou peis kati ??

Fusika kai exeis ta idia dikaiwmata m' emeva. Fusika kai exeis ka8e dikaiwma
va mnv avexesai tov kapvo ap' to tsigaro mou. Fusika kai exeis dikaiwma va
avapveeis tov idio aera pou avapvew ki' egw. Auta ola omws va mnv ta les s'
emeva. Na pas va ta peis stous idioktntes twv katastnmatwv ekeivw pou exouv
tis 8eseis kapvistwv kai mn kapvistwv dipla - dipla. Egw eva trapezi opou
mporw va kapvisw zntaw ka8e fora ki' ekei exw ka8e dikaiwma va kapvisw eva
fortngo tsigara ama goustarw, opws allwste mou epitrepei kai o vomos. Av
esu, pou ka8esai dipla mou se trapezi mn kapvistwv, evoxleisai, ta parapova
sou sto katstnma, oxi s' emeva.

giwrgos

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spyros Daskaleas [mailto:spy...@sapo.pt]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:09 AM
> To: Bobolos George; HEL...@lists.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: Agorastikes evtupwseis (suvexeia prongoumevou)
>
>

> Re Mpompole otan ayto poy kaneis enoxlei to diplano soy einai elleipsh
> sebasmoy 'h oxi? De me enoxlei emena an kapnizeis 'h oxi, arkei an soy pw
> oti me enoxlei na katalabeis oti exw ki egw to dikaiwma, ws mh
> kapnisths, na
> anapnew ton idio aera me sena.
>
> Lew dhladh egw "file me enoxlei to tsigaro soy" ki esy apantas "dhmokratia
> exoyme". ZHTW H LOGIKH!
>
> SCD
>
>
> Em 1/17/06 9:03 AM, Bobolos George (gb...@intracom.gr) escreveu:
>

Bobolos George

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Jan 17, 2006, 5:30:02 AM1/17/06

>
> > Ares mares koukouvares, opws pavta allwste.
>

> Ela re! Ebala ta klammata twra!
>

> > Sxoliasa to mnvuma sou, opou EMEIS eimaste OI KAPNISTES ki'
> ESEIS eisaste O
> > KOSMOS. Kai se rwtnsa av EMEIS oi kapvistes eimaste kosmos n'
> kati allo. Ep'
> > autou exeis va mou peis kati ??
>

> Ti na pw... Se peira3e dhladh to sxhma logoy poy xrhsimopoihsa? Enta3ei
> EIMASTE OLOI ADERFIA!
>

> > Fusika kai exeis ta idia dikaiwmata m' emeva. Fusika kai exeis
> ka8e dikaiwma
> > va mnv avexesai tov kapvo ap' to tsigaro mou. Fusika kai exeis
> dikaiwma va
> > avapveeis tov idio aera pou avapvew ki' egw. Auta ola omws va
> mnv ta les s'
> > emeva. Na pas va ta peis stous idioktntes twv katastnmatwv
> ekeivw pou exouv
> > tis 8eseis kapvistwv kai mn kapvistwv dipla - dipla. Egw eva
> trapezi opou
> > mporw va kapvisw zntaw ka8e fora ki' ekei exw ka8e dikaiwma va
> kapvisw eva
> > fortngo tsigara ama goustarw, opws allwste mou epitrepei kai o vomos. Av
> > esu, pou ka8esai dipla mou se trapezi mn kapvistwv, evoxleisai,
> ta parapova
> > sou sto katstnma, oxi s' emeva.
>

> ZHTW O POLITISMOS!
>
> SCD
>

ZHTW, ZHTW !!!!!!!!
Avte, paw twra gia tsigaro .....
giwrgos

V. Farmaki

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Jan 17, 2006, 8:30:01 AM1/17/06

At 07:40 мм 16/1/2006, you wrote:

>--- "V. Farmaki" <easyt...@HOL.GR> wrote:
>
> > Vgainw e3w na dw ta skata na mhn glystrhsw alla gia thn wra den ta
> > petyxa.
> > Pou tha mou pane? sto xeri tous einai?
>

>Xe xe an 8ymamai kala h Lhda eixe grapsei paliotera oti anaferotan sto
>Palio Falhro?

Alla3te Dhmarxo :-)

>Den kserw gia alla merh ths A8hnas alla ekei, lypamai pou
>8a se apogohteusw Beatrikh mou, etsi einai.

Kai sto Londino o ta3itzhs moufere ta resta sto kefali (tou ta afhsa gia
filodwrhma alla tou fanhkan liga ki htan kai sknipa..
Tha tous thapsoume olous tous ta3itzhdes? :-)
Eipa kala malaka mou esy xaneis ki ante kai...

>Menw ekei ta kalokairia pou
>paw Ellada kai prepei na perpatas me to kefali katw. Perna kamia bolta
>stous dromous konta sto rema ths Pikrodafnhs kai 8a deis.

O Sotiris mou leei na koitaw pshla, esy xamhla :-)
Analoga me thn synoikia loipon paei to prama.
Kanei ki afto thn poikilia tou :-)

>Metaksy tou antikapnistikou fasismou ths USA kai tou kapnistikou
>fasismou sthn Ellada den yparxei enas mesos dromos pou na sebetai kai
>to dikaiwma tou allou na kapnizei xwris na ais8anetai poliths g
>kathgorias, alla kai to diko mou to dikaiwma na mhn trww ton kapno tou
>sth mourh mou se kleistous xwrous?

Koita, afou oi Amerikanoi to 3esxisan gia enan aiwna kai xesthkan sto xrhma
oi viomhxanoi ki oi diafhmistades tous twra tous hrthe lampsh sto kranio
na prostatefsoun thn dhmosia ygeia. Kyriws twn pnevmonwn giati tou egkefalou
thn exoun kataxerisei kai se topiko kai se pagkosmio epipedo.
Mwr' den mas x...
As ypograpsoun ta kathikia thn symfwnia gia to perivallon kai meta na milane.

>P.

veatrikh

Sophia

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Jan 17, 2006, 9:30:02 AM1/17/06

Merika eisagwgika giati to exete para3nlwsei oles oi pleures snmera...

Emeis pou gkriviazoume gia to alfa 'n bnta strabo tns Elladas dev to
kavoume giati dev mas aresei n Ellada. Avti0etws, mas aresei kai 0a
0elame va eivai kalutern. Giati de gkriviazoume gia tn Zimpampoue, p.x;
Giati skotistnkame gia tn Zimpampoue, giati tnv exoume grammevn tn
Zimpampoue kai fwtia va pesei va tnv kayei tn Zimpampoue de mas afora.

Ki eva allo 0ema eivai oti epeidn leipoume, gi'auto blepoume tis
allages. Evw eseis pou mevete ekei dev tis blepete, giati erxovtai
siga-siga. E, kai pws va to kavoume; Orismeves allages eivai pros to
xeirotero. Opws episns de mas aresei pou blepoume oti orismeva apo ta
palia straba avti, opws 0a eprepe, va exouv dior0w0ei me ta xrovia, apla
diaiwvizovtai.

Oi ageveis geroi p.x. Oi e3nvtarndes pou ntav ageveis priv eikosi xrovia
twra exouv pe0avei 'n eivai toso megaloi pou dev kukloforouv wste va mas
ekveurizouv. Tous dikaiologousame giati ntav apo xwrio, ntav amorfwtoi,
eixav perasei polemo kai katoxn klp klp. E, ti dikaiologia exouv oi
snmerivoi e3nvtarndes;

V. Farmaki wrote:
> Alla3te Dhmarxo :-)
Am, dev eivai ekei to 0ema Bea! To 0ema eivai va mnv lerwvoume, oxi va
exoume meta av0rwpous va ka0arizouv.

> Kai sto Londino o ta3itzhs moufere ta resta sto kefali (tou ta afhsa gia
> filodwrhma alla tou fanhkan liga ki htan kai sknipa..

Ta3itzns maurou ta3i (twv episnmwv ta3i dnladn), me0usmevos se wra
ergasias kai agevns pros tov pelatn; Kai dev exei xasei akoma tnv adeia
tou; Mallov epeses stnv periptwsn :-)))

> As ypograpsoun ta kathikia thn symfwnia gia to perivallon kai meta na
> milane.

Bea, twra to Ł$%Ł$$% to 0ema. Alla bebaiws, giati va mnv to Ł"$%$%"Ł;;;
H pleioynfia twv Ellnvwv to idio kavei. Ama upograyouv oi amerikavoi tn
sumfwvia tou Kuoto dnladn 0a koyouv oi Ellnves to kapvisma; Kai apo pote
akribws 3erei o mesos Ellnvas gia periballovtika 0emata, wste va tov
kaiei toso polu ti kavouv oi HPA; 'H mnpws apla tov kaiei to va exei va
leei kati kata twv HPA 'n kata twv koutofragkwv pou dev 3erouv va
znsouv, va fave, va piouve, va gŁ"%$Ł$", va exouv oikogeveies;

Yiannis

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Jan 17, 2006, 9:30:04 AM1/17/06

Le 15 janv. 06, à 14:36, Sophia a écrit :

> Yiannis wrote:
>> Sxolio gia tn Sofia: dev katalabaivw to mazoxismo sou va pngaiveis
>> diakopes kai va asxoleisai me tnv tnleorasn kai ta emporika kevtra.
>
> Giati otav pngaiveis gia treis bdomades spiti sou kapoia stigmn 0a
> avoi3eis tnv tnleorasn kai kapoia stigmn 0a pas gia ywvia. Av pngaiva
> gia treis bdomades se kamia e3wtikn paralia 'n se kaveva xiovodromiko
> gia ski pi0avov va mnv ta ekava auta, alla ti va kavoume re Giavvn,
> orismevoi dev kavoume diakopes stnv Ellada, apla pame Ellada kai
> kavoume ekei auta pou 0a kavame edw, suvn0ws me pio liges eukolies
> giati dev mporeis va koubalnseis olo sou to spiti mazi sou.

Ma ki egw otav paw diakopes kavw oti ki edw: dev paw se emporiko kevtro
kai dev koitaw tnleorasn (ektos Kuriakn bradu pou exei Star Trek
eipame) :-)

Yiannis

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Jan 17, 2006, 9:30:04 AM1/17/06

Katse giati esu kriveis ta avtikapvistika tns Eurwpns ap't'amerikavika
ki oxi to avti0eto.
Ama mou les oti apagoreuetai to kapvisma stnv paralia tou Eirnvikou
paei va pei oti ekei exete xtupnsei paravoia pou edw eutuxws dev
exoume.
Na sou pw pws exouv ta pragmata edw: pame se magazi pou exei ap'tn mia
0eseis kapvistwv ki ap'tnv alln mn kapvistwv. Duo ap'tnv parea 0elouv
va kapvisouv alla dev exei eleu0ero trapezi stnv pleura kapvistwv. Dev
peirazei mas leei n serbitora va rwtnsw stnv pleura mn kapvistwv autous
pou eivai gurw av tous peirazei. Dev bre0nke kaveis va tous peirazei
opote katsame stnv pleura mn kapvistwv ki oi duo kapvistes kapvisav me
tnv adeia twv gurw tous. Politismeva kai logika pragmata, oxi "kapvizw
me to etsi 0elw" ap'tn mia oute "oi kapvistes stnv karmaviola" ap'tnv
alln. Opote mn milas gia katapiesn tns eleu0erias apo avtikapvistikous
vomous. Av ki egw bebaia tous eipa oti mporei va mn peirazei t'alla
trapezia alla emeva me peirazei kai dev mporw va katalabw giati ntav
toso epeigov pia va parouv tn tzoura tous avastatwvovtas olo to magazi.
Ta upoloipa twra gia to ti egklnmaties eivai oi amerikavoi ki av oi
Ellnves plnv Skebouln eimaste pi0nkoi n oxi eivai asxeta.
Oso gia ta pezodromia, opoios diamarturetai gia skuloskata sta
pezodromia dev exei patnsei glistrada sta parisiva skatodromia, ta pio
plousia kai glustera pou exw dei pote. Me extra bonus olous tous sik
idioktntes pou afnvouv tous koprous tous va katourave ta parkarismeva
podnlata stn seira. ama 0elete zwvtavo PARTE GATES REEEE!!!
Yiannis

Le 16 janv. 06, à 23:23, Zero Gara a écrit :

> Gia ta magazia pou fantazomai anaferesai me ta 300+ kormia polla oute
> adeia leitourgias oute adeia poleodomias den exoun, to fire-exit se
> marane;
> 10-15 thn hmera? Pou briskesai; 2 Euro (2.5 US$) exei to Winston.
> Karkinos; Mia polh san thn A0hna, Londino, LA klp exei atmosfaira
> analogh enos kapnisth sthn eparxia. To Londino exei kai 0anathforous
> tromompatsous, to LA oxi mono. Stis de geitonies to poluari0mwn
> metalourgikwn ergostasiwn ths Amerikas ta poswsta karkinopa0wn einai
> triplasia tou plh0ismou!
> (No Smoking) pinakides polles, (No Working in steel mills) kammia!
> 0a me piasei kai to echelon kai 0a me karfwsei ston Aggelopoulo!
> Koyte to tsigaro kai roufate Red Bull (Ygrh Coka)!!
>
> Ki as to pame allou twra. Apagoreuetai to kapnisma sthn "paralia"
> tou Eirhnikou giati prokalei problhmata ugeias stous gurw "a0wous".
> Ki an anayeis tsigaro o diplanos sou 0a se katagghlei.

> ! Posoi ap'autous kataggeloun oti sta kala twn ka0oumenwn, se xwrio

> tou Pakistan (mia filikh xwra) bombardizoun, skotwnoun 17 ki alla posa
> sta nosokomeia giati uphrxan plhrofories oti a3iomatouxos ths AlKaida
> 0a ekane episkeyh!
> Prin 1 mhna h benzinh sto Maryland epese katw apo $2/gal dhaldh katw
> apo 0.50 Euro/litro, kai gia thn akribeia ths benzinhs oi Amerikanoi
> xtupiountai!
>
> Katalabaineis giati briskw to koutouki me ta spasmena pezodromeia
> ap'e3w, me ta koyidia kai tis tsiknes, kai ta 8 anamena tsigara se
> ka0e staxto0hkh PIO an0rwpina apo thn Pina Colada stis paralies ths
> Californias!
> Nai einai PIO politismena edw!
>
> Den exei kourades sta pezodromeia tou Beverly Hills?
> Ti lete re paidia, gemath h Amerikh apo ekatomuria KOPRANA einai!
>
> Suyh kai sapila!
>
> KoZmas >>>>--------------->
>
> YG Nai nai 3erw... to kalo sapouni ginetai apo...... ase me re
> Lambro!
>

> "Petropoulos, Lambr! os" <lambros.p...@WYLELABS.COM> wrote:Twra

> piaveis allo 0ema. Kai ekei omws kuriarxei to kafriliki tou magazatora
> kai twv arxwv. Eivai movo 0ema tuxns pou dev exei parei fwtia kaveva
> magazi va kaouv kamia 200aria kapvizovtes pavnli0ioi elladopi0nkoi. Oi
> xwroi eivai polu mikroi, suvn0ws me eparkn e3aerismo gia 80 atoma.
> Omws oi kafroi ta gemizouv me 300 + fougara elladopi0nkous (pou dev
> exouv lefta va fave kai va vtu0ouve alla xalave 10-15 euro tnv nmera
> gia tov karkivo) kai n elevgktes tou kratous + Purosbestikn aplws
> eispratouv ta fakelakia gia va kavouv tous Kivezous stis parabiaseis
> ka0e kwdika leitourgias twv kwloxaviwv. Kai ta perissotera eivai
> katwgia me mia movo porta (evvonte e3odoi kivduvou eivai avuparktoi).
>>
>> Tseligkas
>>
>>

>> From: The Hellenic Discussion List [mailto:HEL...@lists.psu.edu] On
>> Behalf Of Zero Gara
>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:57 AM
>> To: HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU

>> Subject: Re: Agorastikes evtupwseis (suvexeia prongoumevou)
>>

>> Oxi epeidh eisai paliofalhroths kai gauros alla epeidh eipes kati
>> logiko se sugxerw ;)
>> To problhma einai o aneparkhs e3aerismos kai o uperbolikos
>> sunostismos se mai ai0ousa. Toulaxistwn se kapoia shmeia ths UZAs
>> pou egine kapoia organomenh antistash (apo katasthmatarxes kuriws)
>> kai eginan e3aireseis tou kanona te0hke orio atomwn se ai0ousa kai
>> ikanopoihtiko susthma e3aerismou.
>>

>> Bebaia kapoioi eklekto! i polites ek KKKalifornias den 0a upobibazan

>> tous eautous tous na episkeftoun tetoia kwloxania. Mpas kai 0umasai
>> to Downtown Beihrut sto lower East side, h" den to proftases;
>>
>> KoZmas >>>>--------->
>>

>> Periklhs <b20...@YAHOO.COM> wrote: --- "V. Farmaki" wrote:
>>
>> > Vgainw e3w na dw ta skata na mhn glystrhsw alla gia thn wra den ta
>> > petyxa.
>> > Pou tha mou pane? sto xeri tous einai?
>>

>> Xe xe an 8ymamai kala h Lhda eixe grap! sei paliotera oti anaferotan
>> sto
>> Palio Falhro? Den kserw gia alla merh ths A8hnas alla ekei, lypamai
>> pou
>> 8a se apogohteusw Beatrikh mou, etsi einai. Menw ekei ta kalokairia

>> pou
>> paw Ellada kai prepei na perpatas me to kefali katw. Perna kamia
>> bolta
>> stous dromous konta sto rema ths Pikrodafnhs kai 8a deis.
>>

>> Metaksy tou antikapnistikou fasismou ths USA kai tou kapnistikou

>> f! asismou sthn Ellada den yparxei enas mesos dromos pou na sebetai

>> kai
>> to dikaiwma tou allou na kapnizei xwris na ais8anetai poliths g
>> kathgorias, alla kai to diko mou to dikaiwma na mhn trww ton kapno
>> tou
>> sth mourh mou se kleistous xwrous?
>>

>> P.

V. Farmaki

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Jan 17, 2006, 11:30:01 AM1/17/06

At 08:17 мм 16/1/2006, you wrote:
>V. Farmaki wrote:
>>Giati otan grafete eseis oi episkeptes tis entypwseis sas einai san na
>>diavazw kritikes gia allh xwra.
>
>Ela re Bea, eipame va leme kai kamia avonsia,
>alla oxi kai va mas bgaleis strabous ki apo
>pavw. Dnladn amfiballeis oti auta pou egraya egw
>(ase tn Lnda gia tnv wra) eivai aln0eia; Oti
>dnladn alla suvebaivav gurw mou ki alla avtilambavomouv;

Ap thn perigrafh sthn ypervollh exei diafora.
Diavasa ta dika sou kai den ta sxoliasa.
Par oti diafwnw poly me osa grafeis gia to nosokomeio Gennhmatas
opou emeina deka meres ton perasmeno Noembrio me ena provlhma
sto podi.
Alla ok den eixa xrono proxthes kai den anoi3a kouventa.

>>Armani pou fora olos o ellhnikos laos. Edw thelw na sou pw pws ston
>>evrytero kyklo twn gnwstwn kai agnwstwn den vlepw kanenan na fora tetoio
>>rouxalaki giati tha faei sfyrigma, alla h polh
>>touth exei kai 5 ekatommyria trellous
>>den tha yparxoun kai 5-20 xiliades xazoleftades na synthroun tetoia magazia?
>
>Autoi etsi ki alliws ta ywvizouv apo ta
>e3wterika opou exouv deka spitia. Egw 3erw oti n
>3aderfn mou p.x ekave idiaitera olo to kalokairi
>kai pnge ki agorase eva magiw stis ekptwseis
>pros eva bdomadiatiko. Kai dev eivai kaveva
>pitsiriki pou to taizouv oi goveis kai paei kai
>trwei to xartziliki, guvaika 35 xrovwv eivai,
>mntera evos paidiou me suzugo avergo. Kai n filn
>mou exei mia bitriva mexri to tabavi spiti tns
>me Sbarofski, giati leei eivai melos kai
>agorazei ta sullektika kommatia. Oute autn eivai
>apo kamia oikogeveia leftadwv, dnmosioi
>upallnloi ki autn ki o avtras tns, goveis triwv paidiwv.
>
>Giati dev eixame Armani kai Hermes kai ola auta priv apo eikosi xrovia;

Ma einai kouventa afth? Giati den mporei naxei Armani 'h oti diaolo thes
mia prwtevousa merikwn ekatommyriwn?
Einai apagorevmeno pronomio?
Kai giati den mporei kaneis naxei to dikaiwma otan ergazetai kai paragei kai
den einai alhteia 'h den zei se varos tou synolou, na agorazei oti tou aresei
akoma ki an stereitai meta kati allo?
Den katalava.. Ti einai edw monasthri me theouses?

>Dustuxws Bea, n laikn mousikn (kai xrnsimopoiw
>tov oro evvowvtas "pop music") eivai akribws n
>idia me olo tov allo kosmo. Ki edw sto UK exoume
>Bavdn, Bissn, Znva kai Rouba. Apla legovtai
>alliws. Alla tragoudave akribws ta idia. Giati
>oi etairies pou tous prow0ouv kai tous plasarouv
>eivia oi idies kai douleuouv me tov idio tropo.
>Epomevws gia poia ellnvikn mousikn milame;

Na sou steilei o Spyros merikes dekades titlous pou exoume antalla3ei
teleftaia na deis giati milame.
Lypamai an den parakoloutheis. Alla tote den mporeis na les pws den
yparxei ellhnikh elafra kai entexnh mousikh.
Den einai twn dekaetiwn 70-80 alla einai kalh mousikh.
Ta onomata pou aneferes den ta akouw oute otan eimai sta tsakir kefia.
Ki aporw pws ta 3ereis. Apefthynontai se 18arhdes, ante mexri 25rhdes.

>>Dhladh yparxei kai egkefalikh mousikh? :-)
>w, vai!

Mpa? p.x.?
O oros me trellainei!
Lian dokimos.

>>Meta na se rwthsw giati thewreis pws
>>vafkalizomaste! Vafkalizetai kaneis otan einai
>>efxaristhmenos me ton tropo kai ston topo pou zei??
>Apavtaw egw kat'e3airesn :-)) Nai. Giati kaveis de zei stov paradeiso.
>Kai n pleioynfia twv av0rwpwv dev exei epiloges
>tou stul "ama de sou aresei edw, pngaive allou".
>Mn geliomaste. Opote dev isxuei to "emas ams
>aresei etsi", afou n pleioynfia dev 3erei to allou.

Mwre ti einai afta pou lete.. :-)
Trellathhkate entelws?
Ama perna kaneis kala shmainei oti vafkalizetai giati oi statistikes lene
pws den thaprepe na perna kala??
Den pa na xtypieste ama emeis pername kala, pername kala kai to noiwthoume
kai to goustaroume kai to fxaristiomaste.
Kai den pa na xrwstame se deka trapezes.
Otan leme apopse glentame, telos, ..glentame.
Opoios 3exase ti tha pei omorfes wres, glenti, kalampouri, klp. provlhma tou.
Allazei se mas tipota?? :-)

>dev ta blepete kai vomizete oti dev uparxouv.
>Tnv epomevn fora pou 0a dwseis ta lefta sou gia
>rouxa Zara, pou 0a pareis apo to Karfour eva
>kotopoulaki Pivdos kai mia tourtitsa me plastikn
>savtigu xwris gala, priv pas spiti va
>parakolou0nseis to teleutaio kataskeuasma tns
>Endemol kai va paraggeileis mia pitsa Domino's,
>skeyou oti tis idies akribws agores, me tov idio
>akribws tropo, me tis idies skeyeis klp klp
>kavei ki o Belgos, ki o Ollavdos ki o Gallos ki
>o Soundos. To perituligma allazei, ola ta alla idia eivai.

Dhladh katagrafh twn oswn yparxoun e3w kai yparxoun ki edw ginetai? :-)
Ki e3 aftou aporreei to symperasma pws akolouthoume diatetagmenes
kakhs antigrafhs twn dytikwn?
Den einai ligo vareto afto?

Prin anoi3ei h Zara tyligomastan me sentonia?
Lete oti thelete. Shmasia exei na pernate kala.
Pernate?

>Av mn ti allo, eva allo pou prose3a eivai oti n
>Ellada exei givei n xwra tou franchise. 0a mou
>peis eivai franchise Grngorns ki oxi franchise
>Burger King. E, kai; Diaforetiko perituligma.

Otan les olh Ellada, ennoeis olh h Ellada?
Oi antapokrites sou sou edwsan lathos stoixeia :-)
Giati thaxeis akousei pws ellada den einai mono h Athhna.

>Makari na pernate oloi ekei
>>pou eisaste toso
>>kala oso ki emeis pou zoume edw ki as exoume
>>kai kanena skatomeno pezodromio :-)
>Twra to ri3ame stnv avonsia gia xarn tns avonsias.

To spotaki afto tha mporouse na einai akoma kai
xaritwmeno an kollage sthn kouventa.
Kai 3anarwtaw, pernate kala?
:-)

>O ka0evas mas pervaei opws pervaei olos o kosmos
>pavtou. Dev uparxei kala 'n kalutera. Emeis to
>ftiaxvoume to kalutero. Pavtou mporeis va exeis
>oikogeveiaka problnmata, p.x. 'n problnmata
>ugeias. Kai tote ta koyidia stnv kura-Avtwvia 'n
>pws alliws tn leve, de bon0ave.

Afto kapou toxw diavasei.
E, ola exoun graftei s afth thn zwh. Ola! :-)

V. Farmaki

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At 11:03 рм 17/1/2006, Bobolos George wrote:
> > Re sy ti mperdeyeis ta pragmata? Einai 'h den einai elleipsh sebasmoy ston
> > mh-kapnisth diplano soy na royfas ta tsigara enw ekeinon ton
> > enoxlei? Dhladh
> > ti se peirazei, to oti egine nomos? 3ereis giati egine nomos?
> > Giati eseis oi
> > kapnistes enw phrate thn apofash sas na t'arxisete kai na to
> > synexisete, den
> > mporeite na katalabete oti ekeino poy esas sas ftiaxnei enoxlei
> > ton kosmo! E
> > pws na to kanoyme re sy!
>

>Ekeivo pou EMAS (tous kapvistes dnladn) MAS FTIAXNEI (siga re Daskalea, dev
>trupiomaste ki' olas, eva tsigaraki kapvizoume), evoxlei TON KOSMO
>(ouaouuuuuu pou leve ki' ekei sto Amerika pou zei o filos mou, o uperavw, o
>Skeboulns vte). Giati re Daskalea, EMEIS oi kapvistes DEN EIMASTE KOSMOS
>dnladn ???
>Gia des re paidi mou mia periergn avtilnyn tns dnmokratias ekei stnv
>politismevn Dusn .....
>giwrgos

3exases na peis pws stous aiwnes twn aiwnwn oi kapnistes kai o kapnos htan
meros ths zwhs twn anthrwpwn kathe fylhs kai proelefshs. Me tis poikilies tou
me ta a3esouar tou kai paei legontas.
Twra pou to g...sane to thema me ta apovlhta me
tis ekpompes aeriwn ergostasiakwn
kaminadwn, me tis varies viomhxanies me tis
molynseis twn thalasswn me tis trypes
tou ozontos, me tis tragikes ekmetalefseis tou
oryktou ploutou, ta metallagmena proionta
kai pou me ta kerata tous ta tragia kataferan kai
eferan ton karkino kai tis xiliades arrwsties sto
kathhmerino trapezi, twra thymhthhkan pws aaaaaaaaa o kapnos!!!
Panw tou, giati emfanisthke 3afnika to thhrio kai mas skotwnei.
Kala oi usades as mh milane ki as valoun ton
thamno na ypograpsei thn symfwnia gia
to perivallon (plaka kanw e?) ki as arxisoun na thn efarmozoun.
Milane ki apo panw ta zwa (gia ta amerikanakia
milaw pou katapinoun oti skato tous
servirei to State kei kai milia den axnizoun..
mhn pare3hghthoun oi diamenontes
ekei :-))

veatrikh
Kata ta alla kathe xrono af3anetai sto usa o
arithmos twn neas hlikias kapnistwn kata 10%...!!!

V. Farmaki

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Jan 17, 2006, 11:30:03 AM1/17/06

At 03:34 ěě 17/1/2006, Sophia wrote:
>>As ypograpsoun ta kathikia thn symfwnia gia to perivallon kai meta na milane.
>
>Bea, twra to Ł$%Ł$$% to 0ema. Alla bebaiws,
>giati va mnv to Ł"$%$%"Ł;;; H pleioynfia twv
>Ellnvwv to idio kavei. Ama upograyouv oi
>amerikavoi tn sumfwvia tou Kuoto dnladn 0a
>koyouv oi Ellnves to kapvisma; Kai apo pote
>akribws 3erei o mesos Ellnvas gia periballovtika
>0emata, wste va tov kaiei toso polu ti kavouv oi
>HPA; 'H mnpws apla tov kaiei to va exei va leei
>kati kata twv HPA 'n kata twv koutofragkwv pou
>dev 3erouv va znsouv, va fave, va piouve, va gŁ"%$Ł$", va exouv oikogeveies;

Sofia mh to paizeis xazh giati xazh den eisai. Afto htan arthro prwto :-)

Deftron, otan enan lao ton pianei ysteria mayrh
ki araxnh ysteria gia ton kapno
malista eidika gia ton kapno pou vgazei ena tsigaro 'h ekatommyria tsigara
kai den dinei prwta pente faskela ston thamno tou
na sevastei to perivallon kai
na symmetasxei sthn pagkosmia prospatheia pou ginetai, afto esy to les pw to
gamhsame to thema??
Psaxnw twra na dw poios gamhse ti.. :-)

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Veatrikh

Zero Gara

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Katalabainw oti o mh-kapnisths de 0elei to kapno tou kapnisth, alla mexri prin 10-20 xronia kaneis den eixe toso shmantiko problhma. 3afnika mesw ths antikapnistikhs propagandas kai ths ta3ikhs diaforas twn kapnistwn sthn Amerikh dhmiourgh0hke ena xasma koinwniko! Isws h Ellada na einai sto anti0eto akro tou fasmatos (ontws h uyhloterh ana kefalh katanalwsh tsigarwn die0nws).
An kapoios kollhtos sas kanei ena partu spiti tou kai mazeutei olh h parea kapnistwn kai mh. Sthn Ellada 0a kapnisoun, ektos ki an se mikro xwro uparxoun paidia h" gunaika egguos kai thn enoxlei (giati kapnizoun ki autes mexri to nosokomeio).
An kapnizei enas den 0a pate; H" 0a tou zhthsete na mhn kapnizei afou o oikodespoths tou exei bgalei staxto0hkh;
Ara milame gia ka0ara koinwniko problhma! Exoume kai to megalo kalo sthn Ellada isa me 8 mhnes to xrono na th bgazoume se e3wterikous xwrous opou oi "normal" an0rwpoi den enoxlountai. Sthn Amerikh exoun apagoreusei na kapnizeis kai ektos kthriwn se parking apo mall klp.
Mh kapnizete sth paralia giati 0a brwmisei o aeras tou Eirhnikou! Akou re!

To 0ema einai oti ena shmantiko poswsto, an oxi h pleoyhfia, mias koinwnias den mporei xwris to narkwtiko ths. 0elei to tsigaro ths, to poto ths, to Prozak ths, ama ths to pareis kati allo 0a brei.
Gia to kalo ths yuxhs kai ths ugeias tou laou h Amerikh pote de perase nomous ektos ki an eixe zhthsh ergatikwn xeriwn (balane sklhra kapela sta ergostasia, h Bethlehem Steel organwse thn prwth iditwtikh asfaleia ugeias ston kosmo klp.).
Ara gia na tous pernoun to alkool kai to tsigaro kati allo 0eloun!
Isws na periorisoun tous "risk takers" sthn apomonwsh tou spitiou tous!
Isws oi biomhxanies mh alkolouxwn potwn anakaluyan ton tropo na poulane pota me kokainh nomima! ENERGY DRINKS.
Pantws kati lako exei h faba kai kala 0a kanete oi mh kanistes na parete kanena Marlboro giati kapou sas thn exoun sthmenh!

KoZmas >>>>>---------->

"V. Farmaki" <easyt...@HOL.GR> wrote:>Metaksy tou antikapnistikou fasismou ths USA kai tou kapnistikou
>fasismou sthn Ellada den yparxei enas mesos dromos pou na sebetai kai

>to dikaiwma tou allou na kapnizei xwris na ais8anetai poliths g
>kathgorias, alla kai to diko mou to dikaiwma na mhn trww ton kapno tou
>sth mourh mou se kleistous xwrous?

Koita, afou oi Amerikanoi to 3esxisan gia enan aiwna kai xesthkan sto xrhma

oi viomhxanoi ki oi diafhmistades tous twra tous hrthe lampsh sto kranio
na prostatefsoun thn dhmosia ygeia. Kyriws twn pnevmonwn giati tou egkefalou
thn exoun kataxerisei kai se topiko kai se pagkosmio epipedo.
Mwr' den mas x...

As ypograpsoun ta kathikia thn symfwnia gia to perivallon kai meta na milane.

>P.

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enoxlountai.  Sthn Amerikh exoun apagoreusei na kapnizeis kai ektos kthriwn se parking apo mall klp. Mh kapnizete sth paralia giati 0a brwmisei o aeras tou Eirhnikou!  Akou re! To 0ema einai oti ena shmantiko poswsto, an oxi h pleoyhfia, mias koinwnias den mporei xwris to narkwtiko ths.  0elei to tsigaro ths, to poto ths, to Prozak ths,  ama ths to pareis kati allo 0a brei. Gia to kalo ths yuxhs kai ths ugeias tou laou h Amerikh pote de perase nomous ektos ki an eixe zhthsh ergatikwn xeriwn (balane sklhra kapela sta ergostasia, h Bethlehem Steel organwse thn prwth iditwtikh asfaleia ugeias ston kosmo klp.). Ara gia na tous pernoun to alkool kai to tsigaro kati allo 0eloun! Isws na periorisoun tous "risk takers" sthn apomonwsh tou spitiou tous! Isws oi biomhxanies mh alkolouxwn potwn anakaluyan ton tropo na poulane pota me kokainh nomima!  ENERGY DRINKS. Pantws kati lako exei h faba kai kala 0a kanete !
oi mh
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Zero Gara wrote:
> Katalabainw oti o mh-kapnisths de 0elei to kapno tou kapnisth, alla
> mexri prin 10-20 xronia kaneis den eixe toso shmantiko problhma.

Ti le re file; Egw 0umamai polu kala otav nmouva foitntria oti oi
mn-kapvistes upoferame kai gkriviazame. Kai oti dev kapvizave mesa stis
ai0ouses se wra ma0nmatos, perimevave to dialleima. Eivai 0ema
eugeveias. 0a rwtas apories tov allov me to tsigaro va sou kremetai apo
to stoma;

> Ellada na einai sto anti0eto akro tou fasmatos (ontws h uyhloterh ana
> kefalh katanalwsh tsigarwn die0nws).

Pali kala pou to paradexeste. Eivai apo tnv polln eutuxia, mwre, kai to
kapvisma kai to poto.

> An kapoios kollhtos sas kanei ena partu spiti tou kai mazeutei olh h
> parea kapnistwn kai mh. Sthn Ellada 0a kapnisoun, ektos ki an se mikro
> xwro uparxoun paidia h" gunaika egguos kai thn enoxlei (giati kapnizoun
> ki autes mexri to nosokomeio).

Sto spiti mou stnv Ellada, opws kai sto spiti mou sto Lovdivo,
apagoreuetai to kapvisma evtos. Opoios 0elei va kapvisei mporei va paei
sto mpalkovi. Mexri twra dev upnr3e kavevas kapvistns kalesmevos mou pou
va evoxln0nke. Opws dev upnr3e kai kavevas pou va avaye tsigaro xwris va
rwtnsei prwta av epitrepetai.

> An kapnizei enas den 0a pate; H" 0a tou zhthsete na mhn kapnizei afou o
> oikodespoths tou exei bgalei staxto0hkh;

Kai deka staxtodoxeia va exeis mprosta sou, n eugeveia apaitei va
rwtnseis priv avayeis. Opws rwtas priv avoi3eis to para0uro, opws les
"parakalw" kai "euxaristw". Egw mporei va 0elw ta para0ura avoixta ootav
e3w rixvei xiovi. Prepei dnland va to epiballw stous gurw mou;

> Ara milame gia ka0ara koinwniko problhma!

Ara milame gia 0ema gaidourias.

> apagoreusei na kapnizeis kai ektos kthriwn se parking apo mall klp.

Sta parkigk vomizw oti uparxei kivduvos purkagias, opws uparxei stous
sta0mous, sta bevzivadika kai opou uparxei suvwstismos.

Yiannis

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Le 17 janv. 06 à 17:09, Zero Gara a écrit :

> Katalabainw oti o mh-kapnisths de 0elei to kapno tou kapnisth, alla
> mexri prin 10-20 xronia kaneis den eixe toso shmantiko problhma.

> 3afnika mesw ths antikapnistikhs propagandas kai ths ta3ikhs
> diaforas twn kapnistwn sthn Amerikh dhmiourgh0hke ena xasma

> koinwniko! Isws h Ellada na einai sto anti0eto akro tou fasmatos

> (ontws h uyhloterh ana kefalh katanalwsh tsigarwn die0nws).

Sugvwmn, kai priv 10-20 xrovia egw dev n0ela tov kapvo tou kapvistn
alla tote me eixav grammevo. Dev 3erw ti alla3e alla pavtws oxi ta
gousta mou.
Twra to ti givetai stnv Amerikn eipame de me voiazei. Autoi eivai
baremevoi, emeis suzntame ti kapvo foumaroume stnv Ellada.

> An kapoios kollhtos sas kanei ena partu spiti tou kai mazeutei olh
> h parea kapnistwn kai mh. Sthn Ellada 0a kapnisoun, ektos ki an se
> mikro xwro uparxoun paidia h" gunaika egguos kai thn enoxlei (giati
> kapnizoun ki autes mexri to nosokomeio).

> An kapnizei enas den 0a pate; H" 0a tou zhthsete na mhn kapnizei
> afou o oikodespoths tou exei bgalei staxto0hkh;

Sta spitia filwv mou Ellnvwv kapvistwv, oi kapvistes bgaivouv kai
kapvizouv sto mpalkovi ki as eivai spiti tous. Dev tous to zntnse
kaveis kai kaveis dev 0a tous elege oxi alla to kavouv movoi tous.
Sta spitia filwv mou Gallwv kapvistwv suvn0ws kapvizouv sto salovi,
afou rwtnsouv tous kalesmevous av tous peirazei. Alla to va
kavovizeis av 0a pas me basn to av kapvizouv n oxi eivai trela, dev
to exw 3avakousei.

Apo ekei ki epeita: dev eivai zntnma ugeias ektos av eisai as poume
sto idio grafeio me kapvistn kai se kapvizei ap'to prwi mexri to
bradu. Alla av egw paw estiatorio kai katsw dipla se kapvistn dev 0a
me peira3ei giati apo tn mia tzoura 0a pa0ei n ugeia mou. 0a me
peira3ei giati n murwdia de 0a m'afnsei v'apolausw to krasaki mou kai
tov kafe mou opws to 0elw. Eivai sa va mou les avti va balw lemovi
sta paidakia va balw marmelada. E de goustarw va murizw kapvo otav
pivw krasi, me xalaei!

Gia tn suvexeia: kavw la0os av pw oti oles oi kapvobiomnxavies eivai
amerikavikoi kolosoi; Giati polu to'xoume gurisei stnv uperaspisn tou
ftwxou laou kai 3exvame poios bgazei ap'tnv oln fasn.
Ki exei arxisei n koubevta va mou 0umizei tous PSK sto polutexveio
pou prospa0ousav va me peisouv oti av kavoume apoxn kai xasoume tnv
e3etastikn 0a prow0nsoume tov agwva twv Santinistas kata twv Contras.

Yiannis

> Ara milame gia ka0ara koinwniko problhma! Exoume kai to megalo
> kalo sthn Ellada isa me 8 mhnes to xrono na th bgazoume se
> e3wterikous xwrous opou oi "normal" an0rwpoi den enoxlountai. Sthn

> Amerikh exoun apagoreusei na kapnizeis kai ektos kthriwn se parking
> apo mall klp.

> Mh kapnizete sth paralia giati 0a brwmisei o aeras tou Eirhnikou!
> Akou re!
>
> To 0ema einai oti ena shmantiko poswsto, an oxi h pleoyhfia, mias
> koinwnias den mporei xwris to narkwtiko ths. 0elei to tsigaro ths,
> to poto ths, to Prozak ths, ama ths to pareis kati allo 0a brei.
> Gia to kalo ths yuxhs kai ths ugeias tou laou h Amerikh pote de
> perase nomous ektos ki an eixe zhthsh ergatikwn xeriwn (balane
> sklhra kapela sta ergostasia, h Bethlehem Steel organwse thn prwth
> iditwtikh asfaleia ugeias ston kosmo klp.).
> Ara gia na tous pernoun to alkool kai to tsigaro kati allo 0eloun!
> Isws na periorisoun tous "risk takers" sthn apomonwsh tou spitiou
> tous!
> Isws oi biomhxanies mh alkolouxwn potwn anakaluyan ton tropo na
> poulane pota me kokainh nomima! ENERGY DRINKS.

> Pantws kati lako exei h faba kai kala 0a kanete ! oi mh kanistes na
> parete kanena Marlboro giati kapou sas thn exoun sthmenh!
>

> KoZmas >>>>>---------->
>
> "V. Farmaki" <easyt...@HOL.GR> wrote:>Metaksy tou antikapnistikou
> fasismou ths USA kai tou kapnistikou
> >fasismou sthn Ellada den yparxei enas mesos dromos pou na sebetai kai
> >to dikaiwma tou allou na kapnizei xwris na ais8anetai poliths g
> >kathgorias, alla kai to diko mou to dikaiwma na mhn trww ton kapno
> tou
> >sth mourh mou se kleistous xwrous?
>
> Koita, afou oi Amerikanoi to 3esxisan gia enan aiwna kai xesthkan
> sto xrhma
> oi viomhxanoi ki oi diafhmistades tous twra tous hrthe lampsh sto
> kranio
> na prostatefsoun thn dhmosia ygeia. Kyriws twn pnevmonwn giati tou
> egkefalou
> thn exoun kataxerisei kai se topiko kai se pagkosmio epipedo.

> Mwr' den ! mas x...

> As ypograpsoun ta kathikia thn symfwnia gia to perivallon kai meta
> na milane.
>
>
> >P.
>
> veatrikh
>
>

Ilias Kast

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Jan 18, 2006, 4:30:01 PM1/18/06

--- lida anestidou <lhda_h...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> giauto einai oloi katw me mia moutrakla mexri to
> patwma kai de gelaei kaneis? epeidh pernane oloi
> kala
> kai h zwh einai mia omorfia?
>
> ws pote re beatrikh 8a baukalizomaste oti kala einai
> etsi opws eimaste kai maggia mas kai opoios de
> goustarei tough?
> dhladh, h mousikh kai h toubou sth diapaswn 10 kai
> 11
> to brady, einai ok, giati alliws exoume ekpolitistei
> ek twn e3w kai tou Ellhna o sberkos zugo den
> upomenei?
>
> nai re Bea, h mousikh einai FRIKTH, enta3ei? ama esu
> th sunh8ises kai goustareis anegkefalia, me geia sou
> me xara sou, alla mh mas eirwneuesai oti auth einai
> kai se opoion aresei. Dhladh xrhsimopoihse kai
> kammia
> allh ekfrash h telos pantwn e3hga mou kai mena to
> ba8os tou xatzhgiannh kai tou rouba kai ths dei3ias
> kai ths pei3ias mpas kai to'xw xasei dhladh.
>
> oxi de mou aresoun ta pezodromia pou DEN UPARXOUN,
> dioti ta plhrwnw me tous forous mou kai den ta exw.
> Dioti einai gemata autokinhta, skata skulwn kai
> skoupidia. Giati brexei kai glustrane sa guali,
> giati
> perpatw sthn asfalto kai pernane dipla mou oi
> aganestatoi kai epikindynoi odhgoi kai kinduneuw na
> bre8w sto noskomomeio kai gw kai h mana mou kai oloi
> oi pezoi. loipon, OXI de mou aresoun.
>
> Kai nai, eisagwges twn pantwn ginontai kai twra kai
> xtes ginontousan kai aurio 8a ginontai: rouxa, cd,
> hlektronika, thleoptikes ekmpompes. Dhladh poios
> fora
> Armani pou exei pleon 2 magazia sto Kolwnaki, oxi
> mono
> Emporio alla kai COLLECTIONI parakalw, kai poios
> pswnizei stou hermes? monaxa oi sundaithmones ths
> megalhs Bretanias? 8a trella8oume twra? pswnares
> hmastan panta kai antigrafeis ka8e 3enhs
> kakogoustias
> kai 3afnika giname mh-mou-aptou kai h kritikh einai
> apagoerumenh? 3ereis ti poarathrhsa? akomh akomh pio
> polu fwnazei o ka8e enas klefths gia na fugei o
> noikokurhs. Treladiko exoume katanthsei kai as
> eimaste
> h 10h xwra ths EU, kai kanenas den paradexetai thn
> proswpikh tou eu8unh.
>
> oso gia ta tyria, aplws entypwsiasthka me thn
> poikila
> pou -omologw- den h3era oti uphrxe. Bre8hka stou
> basilopoulou kai ta'xasa.

Ktebaiva Place Maubert mia fora tnv
ebdomada poy eixe la.i.kn, prospervwvtas to
Nicolas :( , ki agoraza tyria gia tnv ebdomada.
Eva epavalnpsn prongoymevoy kai eva kaivoyrgio.
Epi eva xrovo ebriska pavta kaivoyrgio :)

Oxi Fauchon... ekei movo gia foya gkra :-PP

listarxos
iv- koiliodoylos Gallopi8nkos -mooyvt

>Kai auto kako einai? Kai

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"...toy pezodromioy o vomos o sklnrooooooooooos"

> ta
> af8ona kai wraia krasia, kai auto kako einai?
> toulaxiston auta den kanoun 4 eurw ana treis
> roufi3ies
> opws kanei o espresso kai o filtrou kafes ana ta
> mparoutokapnismena kafeneia ths prwteuousas.
>
>
> auta ta oliga giati hdh poly milhsa.
>
> L.
>
>
> Lhda

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