Morkendaoy?
makis
Kwstantinoypolh?
Amerikhs h Germanias?
Makis
Phidias Bourlas
Henry Morgenthau
upnr3e presbns twv HPA stnv O8wmavia (1913-16)
Ebraios, 8ewroumevos filellnv omws,
bon8nse snmavtika stnv metafora kai egkatastasn
twv Mikrasiatwv prosfugwv stnv Ellada.
(O Amerikavos pro3evos stnv Smurvn tnv epoxn twv gegovotwv ntav
o George Horton, filellnv, autos pou egraye to perifnmo
"The Blight of Asia", gia tnv gevoktovia twv Ellnvikwv kai loipwv
xristiavikwv lawv. Oloklnro to biblio edw:
http://www.hri.org/docs/Horton )
F.M.
E. Papanikolaou
> (O Amerikavos pro3evos stnv Smurvn tnv epoxn twv gegovotwv ntav
> o George Horton, filellnv, autos pou egraye to perifnmo
> "The Blight of Asia", gia tnv gevoktovia twv Ellnvikwv kai loipwv
> xristiavikwv lawv. Oloklnro to biblio edw:
> http://www.hri.org/docs/Horton )
To exw diavasei afto to vivlio kai epeidh den ta leei kai poly omorfa,
psaxneis kai psaxneis sto amazon.com .. kai den to vriskeis... :)
Endiaferon, etsi?
Vagelis P.
>
>
> F.M.
paokara
gnwrisei einai fobero atomo. To biblio den einai api0ano na to exoun
apagagei an kai einai palio kai fysikamporei na einai kai out of print. To
lew auto giati otan o Webber, ka0hghths sto panephstimio edw, egrapse ton
epithdeio oudetero oi tourkoi agorazane oloklhres ekdoseis gia na mhn
yparxei to biblio:) Alla ws gnwstonmia trypa sto nero kanane.....
papous
paokara
klassikou realismou.
Proksenos twn amerikanwn.
papous
----- Original Message -----
From: "makis" <sava...@HOL.GR>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
To: <HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:37 AM
Subject: Morkendaoy?
> O Morkentaoy pws grafetai sta Agglika kai projenos poias xwras htan sthn
> Kwstantinoypolh?
> Amerikhs h Germanias?
>
>
> Makis
paokara
hans h henry?
Giati o Hans htane auto pou egrapsa egw ton henry den ton kserw...alla
grafete to idio
papous
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phidias Bourlas" <phi...@FREEMAIL.GR>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
To: <HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Morkendaoy?
> makis wrote:
> >
> > O Morkentaoy pws grafetai sta Agglika kai projenos poias xwras htan sthn
> > Kwstantinoypolh?
> > Amerikhs h Germanias?
>
> Henry Morgenthau
> upnr3e presbns twv HPA stnv O8wmavia (1913-16)
> Ebraios, 8ewroumevos filellnv omws,
> bon8nse snmavtika stnv metafora kai egkatastasn
> twv Mikrasiatwv prosfugwv stnv Ellada.
>
> (O Amerikavos pro3evos stnv Smurvn tnv epoxn twv gegovotwv ntav
> o George Horton, filellnv, autos pou egraye to perifnmo
> "The Blight of Asia", gia tnv gevoktovia twv Ellnvikwv kai loipwv
> xristiavikwv lawv. Oloklnro to biblio edw:
> http://www.hri.org/docs/Horton )
>
> F.M.
Phidias Bourlas
>
> Bourla mou ta xalas
> hans h henry?
> Giati o Hans htane auto pou egrapsa egw ton henry den ton kserw...alla
> grafete to idio
Opws mporei va dei kaveis sto gouemp, prokeitai gia diaforetika proswpa
diaforetikwv epoxwv - dev 3erw av exouv sxesn.
Mallov, gia va pei gia pro3evo eidika, o Sabbaidns avaferotav stov
diko sou.
> papous
F.M.
Dimitri Kokoromytis
> From: The Hellenic Discussion List [mailto:HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU]On
> Behalf Of Phidias Bourlas
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:53 PM
> To: HEL...@LISTS.PSU.EDU
> Subject: Re: Morkendaoy?
>
> Opws mporei va dei kaveis sto gouemp, prokeitai gia diaforetika proswpa
> diaforetikwv epoxwv - dev 3erw av exouv sxesn.
> Mallov, gia va pei gia pro3evo eidika, o Sabbaidns avaferotav stov
> diko sou.
>
> > papous
>
> F.M.
MORGENTHAU, Henry (1856-1946), German-American, lawyer and diplomat, born in
Mannheim, Germany. Morgenthau was taken to the U.S. at the age of nine and
later educated at the College of the City of New York and at Columbia
University. He practiced law in New York City from 1879 to 1899, and in 1905
he founded and became president of the Henry Morgenthau Co., a realty
concern. In 1913 he was appointed ambassador to Turkey; after the entry of
that country into World War I, he assumed charge of the Turkish interests of
Great Britain, France, Russia, and other Allied nations. He was chairman of
the Greek Refugee Settlement Commission formed by the League of Nations in
1923. Among his writings are Ambassador Morgenthau's Story (1918), All in a
Lifetime (1922), and I Was Sent to Athens (1929).
apo: http://www.germanheritage.com/biographies/mtoz/morgenthau.html
Pros timnv tou uparxei omwvumn odos sto Burwva.
O allos pou leei o papous eivai o suggrafeas tou
Hans Morgenthau, Politics Among Nations, 4th ed., New York, Alfred A. Knopf,
1967.
Merika biografika tou
Morgenthau's odyssey
Morgenthau's exile situation is only to a certain extent comparable to the
situation of other continental European migrants even though most IR people
know very little about his history and therefore think that his fate was the
same as theirs. They see that Morgenthau's life and work wasn't free of
contradictions but there was not enough information so theorists could not
explore it further.
Where did this odyssey of thirteen years start? It began, like so many other
migrant stories, in Germany but it began earlier than many of these.
Morgenthau obtained his doctor's degree in 1929 (the final title of his
thesis reads: The International Judicial Function: Its Nature and its
Limits). Shortly after, he started his university career, which meant that
he had to write a postdoctoral thesis required for qualification as an
university lecturer. His financial problems started when his father refused
to support him any longer, and he had to look for a job. In the early 30s,
the situation in Germany was bad. There were too many university lecturers,
and the fact that he was jewish made it even more difficult for him as a
prospective lawyer in the public service - law was Morgenthau's original
profession. In 1931/32, his supervisor heard about an opening at the Faculty
of Law in Geneva. Since he couldn't find work elsewhere he left Germany in
1932 and went to Geneva - only for a short time, he believed. He didn't know
then that he would never come back to live in his native country.
Geneva
In Geneva, he had lots of troubles, concerning his lectures (partly also due
to language problems), his financial and health situation, his approach to
international law, and the general climate. He was working at the law school
which had always had professors for the German students who went there to
learn French while continuing their legal studies. But some of the German
professors as well as some of his students were Nazis, and they gave him a
terrible time.
Morgenthau couldn't stay in Geneva for longer but the situation in Germany
had changed in the meantime - Hitler was already ruling in Germany- so he
wasn't able to go back, he had to find some other place to go. In 1934 he
was searching for a new beginning. Letters written during that time
demonstrate Morgenthau's insecurity. He asked for University jobs in Persia,
Afghanistan, South America and Palestina, the competition in the US seemed
to heavy for him, he said about himself that this wouldn't be his style. If
he would have left Europe at that time then most probably to Palestina but
inwardly he hoped to be able to stay in Europe.
Madrid
When there was an opening in Madrid in 1935, Morgenthau went to Spain. He
was working at the Institute for International and Economic Studies, it was
his first paid job. He learned to know many influential people, who later
formed the creme de la creme of the Spanish foreign policy. And he enjoyed
the Spanish lifestyle:
"I did very little work. Nobody did much work. There was an enormous amount
of talk and very little work. [...]After lunch you would go to a cafe, and
professors and politicians and writers and actors and so forth would sit
around a big table and talk forever. [...] It was extremely pleasant, there
was an enormous freedom in every respect, real vitality, an enormous joy in
the sensual part of life."
Morgenthau married his long-standing girlfriend Irma Thormann. Since they
first met in Munich, in 1924, they had written over 1.000 letters to each
other, and Irma had helped her future husband also financially. In the
summer 1936 they went to Italy for a late honeymoon. There were rumors about
a military revolt in Spain, but everybody thought it would last only a
couple of days. Well, as we all know, the Civil War lasted longer than that,
and they couple could not go back to Spain. Additionally, a bomb crushed
into their apartment house and destroyed much of their belongings (although,
fortunately, Morgenthau's papers were not destroyed and they received the
boxes five years later), and they also lost everything they had in a
banksafe in Madrid.
Europe
The following year, Hans Morgenthau and his wife Irma were on an odyssey
through Europe. Morgenthau first tried to find a job somewhere else - even
in South America - but this was impossible. Finally, Morgenthau decided to
try it in the USA.
"In the light of his later career it does not lack a certain irony that
Morgenthau considered the United States as a possible destination only
last - as a less-than-ideal solution, so to speak. The thought [...] of
making America to a new home did not enthusiate him".
But the troubles did not end after this decision was made. Now, the couple
had to get visas which was complicated not only because of the anti-semitism
of a number of American consuls but also because the U.S. Embassy in Madrid
had jurisdiction over him since he his (last) domicile was in Spain.
"I remember that the American consul in Amsterdam simply said 'Why don't you
go back to Madrid?' and I said 'Don't you know that Madrid is under
siege?' - He said 'That's not my business - if you can't get it in Madrid,
you can't get it.' And so I went from place to place without success ...".
The locations of Morgenthau's odyssey (as far as known): Amsterdam, Meran,
The Hague, Geneva, Amsterdam, Paris, Geneva.
Finally, because of favorable circumstances and the help of a rich relative
of Irma in the States, they got the visas in Geneva, and in summer 1937,
Morgenthau and his wife took the ship to the new continent.
His next stations: first New York, then Kansas. During the first years he
experienced the problems of immigration: finding a job, working in a new
language. Six years later he went to the University of Chicago, the place
where he finally would be successful in his career.
Morgenthau's influence on (US) mainstream IR
With his three "classical" books, especially Politics Among Nations (1948),
Morgenthau became kind of an "opinion leader" in international politics. He
stands for a tradition: "His name became increasingly associated with a
specific outlook and political program: 'political realism.'". Morgenthau
did not found a new school but he became an eloquent spokesmen for political
realism. He also influenced the development of IR in the United States.
Therefore he is often called one of the "founding fathers" of American
realism after WW II. In Tickner's opinion, he made the case for a scientific
international theory (Morgenthau 1946: Scientific Man vs. Power Politics),
but:
"Just as he was not considered scientific enough by many subsequent
international theorists, Morgenthau was himself ambilvalent about the turn
to science in American international theory".
apo: http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a8700288/research/ODYSSEY.html
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makis
Kai shn Thessaloniki yparxei, sto kentro (100 m apo Leyko Pyrgo, enwnei
Mhtropolews kai paraliakh ) kai menw egw.
Kati exw akoysei oti exei anakateytei kai me ton thlegrafo sthn Ellada.
Ecaja sthn Britannica (kai sthn Encarta) alla den exei gia thn drash toy gia
toys prosfyges.
Poyuena alloy mporw na cajw?
Brhka to
http://www.ukans.edu/~libsite/wwi-www/morgenthau/MorgenTC.htm
opoy leei kyriws gia toys Armenioys
Makis (Apollwnios)
makis
Sta Germanika ua pei "Prw'i'nh drosia".
Kai sthn tampela poy exoyn ston dromo edw sthn Thessaloniki ton exoyn grammena
lauos "Morkentaoy" anti "Morgkentaoy" (gama-kapa dhladh).
Makis (Apollwnios)