[geodesic 00159] Re: bit.listserv.geodesic linking?
Bob Burkhardt
Thank you for looking into it. I think there may still be segments of
life. Within the past few years I checked into some German-language news
groups and was soon overwhelmed by the number of posts. I don't think
even the one-way technology which was there before at UB would work for
me now since now I'm using Juno which doesn't know how to post to
newgroups I don't think. I tried posting to Geodesic through my other
ISP, but the messages bounced, perhaps because they weren't patient
enough to get through your delayed acceptance, or maybe it was the way I
aliased my return address so it looked like I was posting from a yet
another Spanish ISP I use. I cross post to Usenet manually now and then,
and bit.listserv.geodesic is pretty dead. Fortunately not even the
spammers seem to think much of it. But Usenet/Gopher enthusiast Spencer
Hunter says he is still holding out so I won't give up the fort.
And thanks to Dick for cross posting Landolf's blog to Synergeo. It
would have been easy for me to do, but I forgot. I will be more careful
in the future. I'm less well connected to Synergeo and just scan the
subject lines for things that might be of interest. This list has about
the right amount of traffic for me, and the posts can be interesting. I
was sorry to lose QQQ knowing the insight he was capable of, but yes he
was getting too unglued and the silly posts got to be rather tedious.
Bob
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:24:14 -0800 Patrick Salsbury
<sals...@sculptors.com> writes:
> Following up on an older thread...
>
> I don't think we can do much in the way of list->news
> gatewaying
> right now, as I don't have access to a newsfeed set up on my
> servers.
> UB used to do linking, but as you noted, this was primarily 1-way
> linking.
>
> Usenet has really fallen into disuse on the net these days,
> and many
> ISPs no longer offer access to it. (Much to my sorrow. I used to
> love
> Usenet, but the net has pretty much moved on from there, leaving it
>
> mostly to the domain of spam and pr0n.)
>
> For now, if someone wants to stay current with the list,
> they should
> subscribe directly. There might be a way to link to Usenet in the
> future, but honestly, I don't see it happening. Usenet sort of faded
>
> from view about 10 years ago, when the main influx of users came
> online during the dot.com boom, and shows no signs of recovering,
> despite it being quite great technology for sifting through lots of
>
> info to find what you want.
>
> For those interested in some of the history & technology
> behind
> Usenet, and why I still think it's better than email in many
> regards,
> check out some articles I wrote on it:
>
> Using Usenet Effectively
> Usenet in the Workplace
>
> Pat
>
> On Sep 30, 2008, at 6:57 AM, Robert W Burkhardt wrote:
>
> > The UB list was linked to bit.listserv.geodesic only very
> nominally.
> > When I did "reply all" a copy went to the newsgroup as well as
> > Geodesic,
> > but not otherwise. And messages to the newsgroup never found
> their
> > way
> > to Geodesic unless they were explicitly forwarded. The "Chinese
>
> > antique"
> > message turned out to be spam, but there was an interesting
> recent
> > submission on Cloud Nines. It is a very inactive list mostly.
> > Spencer
> > Hunter and Biagio di Carlo were memorable regular correspondents
> in
> > the
> > past, but I think they are both now subscribed to this list. I
> get a
> > feed to the newsgroup through my ISP, intergate.com, which
> Mozilla
> > gracefully allows me to tap into. The contributions now seem
> mostly
> > random, but some regular traffic might create more interest and
> hold
> > the
> > people who run into it randomly. Thanks for considering the
> > connection
> > anyway. The "Chinese antique" submission brings up the concern
> that
> > it
> > might be another route for spam. I'm amazed that the newsgroup
> gets
> > as
> > little as it does.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:50:52 -0700 Patrick Salsbury
> > <sals...@sculptors.com> writes:
> >>
> >> On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Robert W Burkhardt wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Patrick, how about linking us into bit.listserv.geodesic? I
> think
> >>
> >>> mostly
> >>> we would contribute to it rather than the other way around.
> The
> >>
> >>> last two
> >>> messages have the subject "Chinese antique". Could be relevant
> I
> >>> suppose.
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>
> >> That does raise a good point. The UB list had been linked
> to
> >> the
> >> newsgroup, and that would have dropped when the list moved from
> >> their
> >> servers to mine.
> >>
> >> Does anyone here use that interface? I used to love
> Usenet
> >>
> >> newsgroups, but to be honest, I've not seen them used much in
> the
> >> past
> >> 10 years or so. If you are reading the Usenet group, where are
> you
> >>
> >> getting it from? I haven't seen an ISP offer it in years. Sadly,
> >> most
> >> users don't even know what it is.
> >>
> >> I'm not running NNTP services on my servers at the
> moment,
> >> so I'm not
> >> sure where I'd connect to for cross-posting (though Mailman does
> >> have
> >> an NNTP gateway feature, so it should be reasonably
> straightforward
> >> to
> >> configure.)
> >>
> >> Pat
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