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HIM Catalog
Employee group at U. Washington (Seattle)
H.I.M.
Loving ourselves enough?
Pansy Division
request for info
Penn ROTC update

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 08:06:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Loren Meissner <lmei...@u.washington.edu>
Subject: HIM Catalog

The phone number for the HIM (Mail Order Gay items) Catalog is
1-800-446-1646. (1-800-HIM-1646).

I called last week and they said the catalog was being discontinued.
Another gaynetter says he called and they said that there would be
a new catalog coming out in the Fall.

Could someone else on gaynet please call and find out whether or not
HIM is still in the catalog business and post the response on
gaynet? Thanks.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 08:51:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: GLUE <gl...@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Employee group at U. Washington (Seattle)

GLUE (Gay Lesbian University Employees) is an organization of
gay, Lesbian, bisexual and other sexual minority employees at
the University of Washington (Seattle, WA USA).
For more information about GLUE and its activities, there
are three ways to contact us:
1. Write: GLUE
P. O. Box 23164
Seattle, WA 98102-0464 (USA)
2. Send e-mail to gl...@u.washington.edu
3. Phone the GLUE Hot Line (206)781-6784
Thanks!!!!

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 11:41:56
Subject: H.I.M.
From: d...@albymedctr.win.net (Daniel R. Lepel)

To my dismay, another call to H.I.M. did reveal that they are going
out of business. I hope the fact they spent money sending me 6
copies of the same catalogue didn't cause their demise. ;-)

____________________________________________________________________
Dan Lepel (a.k.a. teddy) Internet:d...@albymedctr.win.net
Albany Medical Center A-67 AOL Internet:Danie...@aol.com
43 New Scotland Ave. AOL:WetL...@aol.com
Albany, NY 12208-3478

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Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 93 13:09:42 EDT
Resent-From: Ken Sherrill <KS...@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Resent-To: GAYNET <GAY...@queernet.org>,
queer nation <q...@queernet.org>
From: <Joge...@ps-po.polisci.uiowa.edu>
Date: 24 Aug 93 10:33 CST

- --------------------------Original message----------------------------
Ken,

Here is a press release "ACTION ALERT" I would like to go
out the millions you touch each and every day on the BBS.

I am working to put the first openly lesbian candidate for
municipal office in Iowa City, Iowa on the city council.
"And that's spells "T" for Trouble, right here in River
City." We need your help. I urge you to distribute this
action alert and the accompanying press release to your
friends and co-workers in the gay/lesbian/bisexual community
to engcourage people to contribute this ground-breaking
campaing.

I have been a close friend and admirer of Mona Shaw since
settling down in Iowa City 5 years ago. Together, we
co-founded the first Les/Bi/Gay Staff and Faculty
Association in the country, organized a state-wide Gay and
Lesbian Civil Rights Conference, and Mona was a leader in
lobbying the state legislature for gay and lesbian civil
rights in Iowa--which I might add passed in one house and
fell only three votes short in the other. We've worked
closely on issues of importance in Iowa City from AIDS
awareness and prevention, to civil rights, to domestic
violence protection.

I didn't join this campaign solely to put a lesbian on the
City Council of Iowa City. I joined because Mona Shaw is the
brightest, most talented, most compassionate, and
hard-working person I know to represent me and my issues in
city government. That she balances the demands of her job,
being a single parent, and her civil rights activities is a
happy fact which lesbian, gay, and bisexual citizens
nationwide can take pride.

Your financial support will help us get the yard signs up
and the literature out to residents. We face stiff
opposition from a real estate developer. I know how many
requests I get weekly for campaigns and groups in our
community across the state and country. I give what I can,
and I hope that you can too. Send contributions to "Shaw
for City Counci", c\o Michael Jogerst, 228 S. Summit, Iowa
City, IA 52240. Iowa City campaign regulations limit
individual contributions to $50 in the primary and $50 in
the general election. All campaign contributions are
reported to the County Auditor in accordance with the Iowa
Code.

Thanks for your help.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 93 12:36:56 EST
From: James Daniel Lee <JD...@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Loving ourselves enough?

There is one problem with the theory that if we all just love ourselves
and form peaceful communities that the rest of America will like us more
and accept us. The best way to state the problem is with an analogy.
Would African Americans still be as second class in our society as
they once were had they relied simply on loving one another? I think
not. Key to making progress in a white dominated society was actively
engaging that larger portion of society in debate on the worth of people
of color. You see, African Americans already had self-love and community.
These things did not arrive with the civil rights movement, nor did they
achieve what that movement achieved. We have to engage our heterosexual
brothers and sisters in dialogue and let them know that we are worthwhile
as we are.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 14:21:22 -0400
From: jwa...@wilkes1.wilkes.edu (jeff walsh)
Subject: Pansy Division

Well, don't need any more info on them. Went to the source and decided to
do a queer issues in music story, so I interviewed Pussy Tourette and Pansy
Division's lead singer last night. Later in the week, I will be interviewing
Fem 2 Fem and right now, I'm waiting for RuPaul's manager to call me back..

Should be an interesting article, just by the diversity of the interviewees
alone...

Jeff

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 93 11:48 PDT
From: "Meredith K. Lyon 53960" <ECZ...@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: request for info

Is there anyone out there who works for or knows of National Medical
Enterprises and/or Countrywide Home Mortgage Loan Co.? I'm interested in
knowing whether they're queer-friendly or homophobic.

Thanks for your help. You may answer to me privately if you wish at
ecz...@mvs.oac.ucla.edu.

-meredith
ecz...@mvs.oac.ucla.edu

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 12:39:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Helen Remick <hre...@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Penn ROTC update

You will want to review a case in Pennsylvania to see what limits may
exist on decisions regarding ROTC. Some years ago a charge of
discrimination was filed with the Philadelphia Human Rights Commission
against Temple University alleging discrimination I believe on the basis
of sexual orientation because Temple allowed federal recruiters on campus
and these recruiters discriminated. As I recall the finding (sorry, I
cannot locate it right now), the court was very clear in stating that the
federal government basically had the right to do what it pleased, and
Temple would lose all federal funds if it attempted to bar the recruiters.
I suspect the same logic would apply to any attempt to ban ROTC on the
same basis.

On Wed, 4 Aug 1993 anes...@math.upenn.edu wrote:

> This is an update of the ROTC situation at Penn:
> Student leaders and representatives from Penn's 3 main g/l/b
> groups, the grad student gov and the undergrad racial minorities
> council met with Interim President Claire Fagin yesterday. We asked
> her what UPenn is doing right now to terminate the ROTC program (as
> advised by 2 UCouncil resolutions and the grad student gov) and who
> exactly has the power to terminate the program, i.e. does the
> president make a recommendation to the trustees, or what. Basically
> we are screwed because President Hackney did nothing while waiting
> for Clinton to lift the ban and solve the problem. So, Fagin is
> going to have the Provost form a committee in the fall to examine and
> debate options for allowing students to continue their military
> education and/or receive ROTC scholarships. She refused to promise
> to make a statement to the effect that ROTC will be removed from
> campus in compliance with our non-discrimination policy. She wants
> the committee to have ROTC students and others on it, and it should
> present its findings to the Provost in the spring.
> Fagin said she is "loathe to make this [her] first issue" as
> President. She said that she is pleading with us to help her find
> solutions and to not make a big fuss, as Penn as recently been thrown
> into the international spotlight due to recent harassment and freedom
> of speech/protest events. We were troubled when she repeatedly
> indicated that if the Don't Pursue part of the Policy Guidelines,
> when released in October, is pretty strong, then there might not be a
> need to alter the Penn-ROTC relationship. I mentioned that the fact
> that the DOD even has a policy on homosexuals indicates that they
> (and bisexuals) will be treated differently than heterosexuals, which
> is discrimination based on sexual orientation which is theoretically
> not tolerated by the university.
>
> Those of us who met with her will be having a follow-up
> meeting tomorrow morning to discuss what to do next, probably a
> follow-up letter with questions to get a follow-up letter with
> answers. Why does there have to be a committee to study options? We
> can give her two: abolish the program and allow the students to
> complete their training elsewhere, or stop admitting new students
> after a certain date. Fagin tried to say that the Trustees can
> sometimes be progressive, pointing out that they voted to divest from
> South Africa, but we think this is contradictory, since there had
> been no committee formed at that time to discuss options for what to
> do with the money once taken out of that country, and so why should
> there be one now?
> We will not be silent, handed a Don't Ask-Don't Tell policy
> right here at Penn. We will be in the UCouncil Steering Committee
> and we will get on the Provost's committee. More soon,
> Andrew
> anes...@math.upenn.edu
>
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