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Lee Fox

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Would someone have the charity to gratify my curiosity
as to just what this little thing is called, please?


It's that little gismotch right there-----> @

The Italians have a word for it. Do we have a word
for it in English?

And is there an official list with the names of all
such little gidgets?

Thanks whole bunches,

:-)

Lee

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Lee Fox wrote:
>
> Would someone have the charity to gratify my curiosity
> as to just what this little thing is called, please?
>
> It's that little gismotch right there-----> @
>
> The Italians have a word for it. Do we have a word
> for it in English?
>
> And is there an official list with the names of all
> such little gidgets?
>
> Thanks whole bunches,
>

I guess AOL and JUNO don't have ampersands. Just
sidewise-happy-faces. Yuk.

--
-Fred Bradford (Los Angeles)
Friends don't let friends use AOL.

Fred Bradford

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Lee's right. So much for my trying to be clever
(and dumping on AOL and JUNO at the same time.)

-Fred (eating crow!!)

But really, as far as I know it's called the "at sign!"

I believe it's a contraction of "12 egges at 75 cents."
Or whatever.

-f


Lee Fox wrote:
>
> >> It's that little gismotch right there-----> @
>

> >I guess AOL and JUNO don't have ampersands. Just
> >sidewise-happy-faces. Yuk.
>

> >-Fred Bradford (Los Angeles)
>
> No, Fred, that little thing, that very one
>
> right there--------------> @ is not an ampersand. An ampersand, which
> stands for "and" looks like ----> &
>
> Let me tell you about how this all happened to come up.
> I was talking to Martino Sunday after the earthquake in
> Italy, and he was giving me his email address. He gave
> me the letters before @ but when he got to @ he said,
> Lee, what do you call that thing @ in English? I said
> I didn't know and the difficulty that fact created was
> related to the fact we just call it "at" when giving
> email addresses over the phone. But it happens that the
> letter "a" in Italian is pronounced "ah", and the word
> for "at" is pronounced "ah." So one cannot do it as we
> do here. They have given a name to the darlin' little
> thing that distinguishes it from the letter "a." Imagine
> telling someone your email address was Lee...@AOL.com in Italian when
> both the @ and the "a" sound the same.
>
> So I said to myself, "Self!" what a wonderful opportunity to create a
> tempest in a teapot on at least four lists!
> Why, I might even get a war started over the subject.
>
> So I just rolled that darlin' little @ right out onto
> center stage determined to make it into a celebrity.
>
> Who knows of a list somewhere on the net that covers this
> topic with authority? There has to be a name for the little
> thing...............or not!
>
> But let's leave no stone unturned.
>
> On your marks....
>
> Lee

pa...@highway.com.br

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It's called a rose: @-----)-----)--

LE>Would someone have the charity to gratify my curiosity
LE>as to just what this little thing is called, please?


LE>It's that little gismotch right there-----> @

LE>The Italians have a word for it. Do we have a word
LE>for it in English?

LE>And is there an official list with the names of all
LE>such little gidgets?

LE>Thanks whole bunches,

LE>:-)

LE>Lee

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>> It's that little gismotch right there-----> @

>I guess AOL and JUNO don't have ampersands. Just
>sidewise-happy-faces. Yuk.

>-Fred Bradford (Los Angeles)

On your marks....

Lee

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At 07:19 PM 10/1/97 -0700, Fred Bradford wrote:
>Lee's right. So much for my trying to be clever
>(and dumping on AOL and JUNO at the same time.)

The Moslems say that to raise a sword in Allah's name is always good. =20

I say, to dump on AOL is always good. =20

Save me some crow...we're having catfish tonight...

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Fred Bradford wrote:
>
>
> I believe it's a contraction of "12 egges at 75 cents."

It's getting worse. I can't even spell the plural of "egg."

My only excuse is I just flew from St. Paul (MN) to Los Angeles.
No matter how long the flight, I'm always a mess after for about
a day or two.

(NorthWorst Airlines drives me nuts. Ever worse than AOL!)
-f

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Chris Fox

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At 07:01 AM 10/2/97 -0700, Lee Fox wrote:
>I only get jet-lag coming west. For whatever reason, when
>I fly east from the West Coast to the East Coast or to Europe, I don't
>get a moment's jet lag. I'll bet some
>physicist type out there knows why. I don't.

You can always stay awake longer; going to sleep earlier is hard. Going
west, I went to bed in Japan at 10:30 local time and awoke synched for the
rest of the trip. Coming home from Singapore, I actually looked at my
watch in Seattle at 4:00 PM and *could not read it*, I was so tired, yet
could not sleep until 2:30 AM.

Last trip I slept coming back, and no problem.

I hear melatonin helps.


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Chris Fox

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At 07:15 AM 10/2/97 -0700, Lee Fox wrote:
>
>>The Moslems say that to raise a sword in Allah's name is always good. =20
>>
>>Save me some crow...we're having catfish tonight...
>
>Why is everyone eating crow? Chicken's cheaper and costs
>less. And why wasn't I invited? Besides, a good serving
>of "penitenzia agite" (just an elite, better-restaurant
>name for Crow under Glass)is good for anyone at least once a week. =20
>
>Besides, what's wrong with catfish? Outside of=20
>Atlanta there's this wonderful little restaurant where=20
>they serve catfish hush puppies. Only New Orleans, I think, could
>produce a better hush puppy. And I may have
>just put a foot in my mouth and am likely to be pelted with Georgia hush
>puppies. Let me get a basket!!

I dint say there was anything wrong with it, I love it. Vietnamese hot
ampersand sour catfish soup (canh chua c=E1 bong lau) is, like, to die fo=
r.
Hush puppies are fried and are therefore in my past. As for New Orleans,=
I
am forever in dbt to LA for Tabasco sauce, second only to the physical ac=
t
of love as one of life's rewards. =20

>
>And put that sword down---when anyone raises it in
>anyone's name I become very nervous. =20
>
>So let's have a status report on the symbol du jour: @
>
>Lee


>
>
>
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Fred Bradford

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Lee Fox.. look what you get when you try to start a war
about the @ sign:


Kevin...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hey. I am 32 today. happy birthday to me. I am gay, and have few friends.
> Could use a hug.
> Kevin

Lee, you just have to read more of Chris Fox and Parkboy before you
can start wars. They are the pro's. You're just a pip-squeak!


Hugs to Kevin even though you're on fucking AOL!!!


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John Martin

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It's called an "at sign" as far as I know.
-j-

le...@juno.com (Lee Fox) wrote:

>Would someone have the charity to gratify my curiosity

>as to just what this little thing is called, please?

>It's that little gismotch right there-----> @

>The Italians have a word for it. Do we have a word
>for it in English?

>And is there an official list with the names of all

>such little gidgets?

>Thanks whole bunches,

>:-)

>Lee

John Martin

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Fred Bradford <avp...@hooked.net> wrote:

This is true. It's called the "at sign" and was long before the
Internet started using it for addresses. In fact, I think that's
WHY we use it... blah blah AT blah blah blah.

>But really, as far as I know it's called the "at sign!"

>I believe it's a contraction of "12 egges at 75 cents."
>Or whatever.

>-f


>Lee Fox wrote:
>>
>> >> It's that little gismotch right there-----> @
>>

Luan Pham

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On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 08:12:35 -0700, Chris Fox <chri...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Last trip I slept coming back, and no problem.

I guess you get used to time warp huh Chris.

Lee Fox

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>The Moslems say that to raise a sword in Allah's name is always good.
>

>Save me some crow...we're having catfish tonight...

Why is everyone eating crow? Chicken's cheaper and costs
less. And why wasn't I invited? Besides, a good serving
of "penitenzia agite" (just an elite, better-restaurant
name for Crow under Glass)is good for anyone at least once a week.

Besides, what's wrong with catfish? Outside of


Atlanta there's this wonderful little restaurant where

they serve catfish hush puppies. Only New Orleans, I think, could
produce a better hush puppy. And I may have
just put a foot in my mouth and am likely to be pelted with Georgia hush
puppies. Let me get a basket!!

And put that sword down---when anyone raises it in


anyone's name I become very nervous.

So let's have a status report on the symbol du jour: @

Lee


Chris Fox

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At 06:51 AM 10/2/97 -0700, Lee Fox wrote:
>What I want to know is---where can you get a dozen eggs,
>however you spell them, for 75 cents. You I just found
>out there's no "cents sign" on my keyboard. Does that
>mean that if I choose to write money unspelled I have to
>write it $.75 or $00.75 or....?

Try 75=A2; it's 80=B0 in the shade, and the air is 0.3=89 CO=B2. =20

>A fine fellow last night told me it is called an "aruba,"
>but I tend to hope he was funnin' me and just trying to
>get me to the island of for more funnin'. Yes, my email
>address is lefox"aruba"juno.com or lefoxarubajuno.com

I have it on good authority that it's unnamed. Not much of a surprise wh=
en
we DO have words for dragon, unicorn, chimera, gryphon, sphinx, gargoyle,
and god.


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On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 19:19:04 -0700 Fred Bradford <avp...@hooked.net>
writes:


>Lee's right. So much for my trying to be clever
>(and dumping on AOL and JUNO at the same time.)
>

>-Fred (eating crow!!)


>
>But really, as far as I know it's called the "at sign!"
>
>I believe it's a contraction of "12 egges at 75 cents."
>Or whatever.
>
>-f

So Fred:

What I want to know is---where can you get a dozen eggs,
however you spell them, for 75 cents. You I just found
out there's no "cents sign" on my keyboard. Does that
mean that if I choose to write money unspelled I have to
write it $.75 or $00.75 or....?

As many times as I've had to eat crow, I can't remember
what it tastes like, though I'm sure that it has to
taste like chicken---every other unusual dish on the
planet does. But toss the crow. One minor trip over an
ampersand does not a fall make. Onward, we've got more
searching of the archives to do.

A fine fellow last night told me it is called an "aruba,"
but I tend to hope he was funnin' me and just trying to
get me to the island of for more funnin'. Yes, my email
address is lefox"aruba"juno.com or lefoxarubajuno.com

Oh well!

Lee

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Lee Fox

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>Fred Bradford wrote:

>
>It's getting worse. I can't even spell the plural of "egg."
>
>My only excuse is I just flew from St. Paul (MN) to Los Angeles. No
matter how long the flight, I'm always a mess after for about a day or
two.

So Fred,

Here we are again. :-) The point about eggs, however, is
not to spell them, correctly or otherwise, it is to find
them at less than a dollar a dozen. How do you do that?

I only get jet-lag coming west. For whatever reason, when
I fly east from the West Coast to the East Coast or to Europe, I don't
get a moment's jet lag. I'll bet some
physicist type out there knows why. I don't.

Now about the eggs, where do you shop?

Fred Bradford

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Lee Fox wrote:
>=20
>=20

> What I want to know is---where can you get a dozen eggs,
> however you spell them, for 75 cents. You I just found
> out there's no "cents sign" on my keyboard. Does that
> mean that if I choose to write money unspelled I have to
> write it $.75 or $00.75 or....?
>=20

I'm sure your good friend Chris Fox can tell you how to produce=20
the =A2 sign, I certainly can't.

> As many times as I've had to eat crow, I can't remember
> what it tastes like, though I'm sure that it has to
> taste like chicken---every other unusual dish on the

> planet does. =20

Chickens eat grain. Crows prefer dead meat or other dead
birds. Perferably a little "gamey" which means rotten!!

I doubt they taste same at all. Chickens, though, are
stupid (but not a stupid as turkeys,) Crows are brilliant.
Almost human. I've always loved crows. I like to tease them
with my "caw" imitation. I must sound like a crow in distress.
The real crows circle around me pissed as hell.


>=20


> A fine fellow last night told me it is called an "aruba,"

> but I tend to hope he was funnin' me ....

Again talk to the expert, Chris. I think "aruba" is a joke.
The island is beautiful.

--=20


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Lee Fox wrote:
>
> >
> >I dint say there was anything wrong with it, I love it. Vietnamese hot
> ampersand sour catfish soup
>
> That's Vietnamese hot ampersand sour "@" catfish
> soup....

That's too *^%$&^%)&*)(*%$ hot for me!!!!

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At 05:36 PM 10/2/97 -0700, Fred Bradford wrote:
>Lee Fox wrote:
>>=20
>> >
>> >I dint say there was anything wrong with it, I love it. Vietnamese h=
ot
>> ampersand sour catfish soup
>>=20

>> That's Vietnamese hot ampersand sour "@" catfish
>> soup....
>
>That's too *^%$&^%)&*)(*%$ hot for me!!!!

It's not really that hot, not until I dump all the chili sauce in it...he=
y,
call me five star, I can to toe-to-toe with an Indonesian when it comes t=
o
the hot stuff. You should see the Indonesian guy I met in Taipei who
turned out to be from Seattle...Christ....

Canh chua c=E1 has pineapple, tamarind, bean sprouts, tomato, and of cour=
se
some longitudinal sliced of very fresh catfish, which you remove from the
soup and place in nu'o'c m=E2m with sliced chilis, and the soup is served
over rice...incomparable.


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>Lee, you just have to read more of Chris Fox and Parkboy >before you can
start wars. They are the pro's. You're >just a pip-squeak!

That's MISTER Pip-Squeek to you Mr. Ferd!!!

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>Chickens eat grain. Crows prefer dead meat or other
>dead birds. Perferably a little "gamey" which means >rotten!!

>Chickens, though, are stupid. Crows are brilliant.
>Almost human.


Fred, we need to talk. You say chickens eat
grain, and crows eat rotten meat. And you say the
chickens are the stupid ones.

We were talking about eggs earlier and you
say you don't eat them. About your diet, Fred......

Lee

Lee Fox

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>
>I dint say there was anything wrong with it, I love it. Vietnamese hot
ampersand sour catfish soup

That's Vietnamese hot ampersand sour "@" catfish
soup....

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On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 13:08:29 -0400 ca...@griffin.mitre.org writes:
>You wrote:

>> Chicken's cheaper and costs less.

>It's cheaper AND it costs less?

>Well, which is it going to be? <tap> <tap> <tap> <tap>

Did I do that? Would you believe jet lag?

Lee Fox

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>Try 75›; it's 80Œ in the shade, and the air is 0.3 CO .
Chris,

That's lost on me. I'm doing Juno in living
black and white. :-)


>I have it on good authority that it's unnamed. Not much >of a surprise

when we DO have words for dragon, unicorn, >chimera, gryphon, sphinx,
gargoyle, and god.

True! But do we, then, have symbols for each?

:-)

And I think I see defeat arising like a cloud on
the horizon, the wind in it's gryphon wings, with a
multitude of voices shouting: "@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @!!!"

Lee Fox

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On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 08:12:35 -0700 Chris Fox <chri...@earthlink.net>
writes:
>At 07:01 AM 10/2/97 -0700, Lee Fox wrote:

>>I only get jet-lag coming west. When I fly east I
>>don't get jet lag.


>You can always stay awake longer; going to sleep
> earlier is hard.

I wonder if that's it. I'd thought it had something
to do, perhaps, with the rotation of the planet,
which I suppose it does even in that instance.

Bob Russell

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On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, Lee Fox wrote:
>
> That's Vietnamese hot ampersand sour "@" catfish
> soup....

Dontcha mean c@fish?

Bob Russell rs...@pge.com

John H. Waaser

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>The point about eggs, however, is
>not to spell them, correctly or otherwise, it is to find
>them at less than a dollar a dozen. How do you do that?

I think Fred was showing his age! :-)

Either that or he lives on a farm????

>
>I only get jet-lag coming west. For whatever reason, when
>I fly east from the West Coast to the East Coast or to Europe, I don't
>get a moment's jet lag. I'll bet some
>physicist type out there knows why. I don't.

In one direction it's lag--but in the other direction, you GAIN time. Should
be call it jet leap????

If you fly from LA to New York, your flight takes three hours LONGER than it
did in real time. If you fly from New York to LA, your flight takes three
hours LESS than it did in real time.

Let's say you left at noon in each case, and the flight takes 5 hours real
time. Flying into LA, you arrive at 2pm, and still have 8 hours til bedtime.
Flying into Nueba York, you arrive at 8pm, and in a couple of hours you are
ready for bed--assuming that in each case you are healthy, wealthy and wise,
and retire at 10pm.... Your day winds up 6 hours longer when you fly west
than when you fly east.

John H. Waaser

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Most such symbols are available in the upper ASCII character set. Hit the
<ALT> key, and then type the ASCII code for the symbol you want, using th=
e
numeric keypad on the right side of your keyboard. Get an ASCII chart. If
you have SIDEKICK or some other utilities, there is a pop-up ASCII chart.=
If
worse came to worst, you could make your own by typing every available
combination into a word processing document next to the same code typed
without the <ALT> key, then just print it out.

ie 211 +
223 _
=20
etc. (Actually, this being Eudora light, I suspect that those are not the
correct symbols for each code.... But I did it the way you are supposed t=
o....)

>I'm sure your good friend Chris Fox can tell you how to produce=20
>the =A2 sign, I certainly can't.
>

One of the many, many things I like about the local "Texas Roadhouse" (ak=
a
Texas Roadkill) restaurant is the fact that they serve "range-fed" roast
chicken. It is a lot tastier than chicken raised on corn. Just had some
tonight, actually...though speaking of chicken, I really wanted a piece o=
f
Justin (one of the waiters), but that's another story....

>> As many times as I've had to eat crow, I can't remember
>> what it tastes like, though I'm sure that it has to
>> taste like chicken---every other unusual dish on the
>> planet does. =20
>

>Chickens eat grain. Crows prefer dead meat or other dead
>birds. Perferably a little "gamey" which means rotten!!
>


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John H. Waaser wrote:
>

>
> Either that or he lives on a farm????


Oh, I'm hurt. Mortally wounded. Say you didn't mean it.


--
-Fred Bradford (Los Angeles)
Friends don't let friends use AOL.

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>=20

> >I'm sure your good friend Chris Fox can tell you how to produce
> >the =A2 sign, I certainly can't.
> >


All you guys are so dumb. I wrote the "=A2" in the same sentence
I told you I couldn't. Four days later, no one flamed me=20
for it.

-Fred Bradford (Los Angeles)
Friends don't let friends use AOL.

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Joseph Kowalski

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On 4 Oct 97 at 11:02, Fred Bradford wrote:

> All you guys are so dumb. I wrote the "=A2" in the same sentence
> I told you I couldn't. Four days later, no one flamed me=20
> for it.

Perhaps we recognized the post for what it was.

Joseph Kowalski
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ssionate=20
with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and=
the strong. =20
Because someday in life you will have been all of these."=20

George Washington Carver

John H. Waaser

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But why is it that Kevin has so few friends????

Perhaps he should get out more????

>> Hey. I am 32 today. happy birthday to me. I am gay, and have few friends.
>> Could use a hug.
>> Kevin


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You and Dan Quayle.... :-)

>It's getting worse. I can't even spell the plural of "egg."
>
>

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