[GN] How to Protect Yourself while possibly abusing Gay/Lesbians
Marc Stauffer
How much influence are we going to allow these religious groups who seek to
further marginalize us?????? I think I'm going to reread "It Can't Happen
Here" by Sinclair Lewis....... just some food for thought.
RELIGIOUS GROUPS STALL
REFORM LAW
By DOUGLAS MONTERO
August 1, 2001 -- A
strongly backed bill that
would make it a crime if
educators fail to report an
accusation of school sex
abuse to the police is
being stymied by two of the
city's most powerful
religious organizations,
City Hall sources told The
Post.
Bill No. 933, inspired by
several mishandled
complaints in public
schools, would require cops
to investigate allegations
of sex abuse involving
private schools run by
churches and temples as
well as public schools.
The law could set the stage
for a battle between church
and state because both
Catholic and Jewish schools
deal with sex-abuse
allegations against clerics
internally, experts said.
City Hall sources admit
they were surprised by the
religious groups' 11th-hour
request to postpone the
vote in the City Council's
Education Committee on June
4.
"They [religious schools]
claim they were unaware
that the provisions of the
law applied to both public
and private schools," one
source said.
Council staffers are
quietly negotiating with a
coalition of religious
groups hoping to tailor the
bill to fit everyone's
demands - a delicate
process during an election
season.
When told the law covers
"co-curricular and
extra-curricular
activities" such as prayer
groups or kids helping out
in religious ceremonies,
New York Archdiocese
spokesman Joe Zwilling
seemed surprised.
"I'm not sure the law
covers that," Zwilling
said, who refused to say if
the church supported the
bill.
Zwilling insisted the bill
applies to clerics working
only in schools, but a
second City Hall source
said it reaches into "all
of the properties on school
grounds."
Zwilling referred questions
to Rabbi David Zwiebel, of
the Agudath Israel of
America, a Jewish advocacy
network that's spearheading
talks with council.
Zwiebel argues the bill is
too broad in its definition
of abuse, and thinks it
will strip school
principals of their
"professional discretion"
to resolve disciplinary
problems internally.
The failure to let
principals "exercise
professional judgment and
discretion in dealing with
actual or threatened
criminal conduct is a
serious flaw," he wrote in
a five-page June 28 letter
to Council Speaker Peter
Vallone and committee
members.
Zwilling and Zwiebel deny
allegations they want to
kill the bill to protect
accused clerics.
Zwiebel said the law could
create "tensions" between
church and state.
The committee is scheduled
to have a hearing on the
matter in the fall.
"The new legal mandate is
not embraced by everyone
because it is designed to
change the usual way of
doing business for the
protection of children," a
mayoral administration
source said.
"Because of the delay, the
window for getting this in
place by September is
closed - and that's a
terrible shame."
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James Nimmo
as religious superstition is allowed to trump
reason and human diginity.
I know this will set off howls of anguish among
the truly chosen and call down the ligtning bolts
of the holy trinity but I'm willing to take that
chance.
Jim Nimmo
--- Marc Stauffer <stau...@washpost.com> wrote:
> Dear Friends:
>
> How much influence are we going to allow these
> religious groups who seek to
> further marginalize us?????? I think I'm going
> to reread "It Can't Happen
> Here" by Sinclair Lewis....... just some food
> for thought.
>
>
>
>
=====
"In essence, the conflict that exists today is no more than
an old-style struggle for power, once again presented to
mankind in semi-religious trappings."
- Einstein, on his dying day, April 18, 1955
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Tim Kerslake
The law applies to *everybody* - not just everybody *excluding* Christian
Groups.
I'm just wondering what they'll come up with next - a bill that would mean
that only *Christians* can get married?
Tim.
Chief Thracian
<violad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I think _all_ of humanity will suffer as long
>as religious superstition is allowed to trump
>reason and human diginity.
>I know this will set off howls of anguish among
>the truly chosen and call down the ligtning bolts
>of the holy trinity but I'm willing to take that
>chance.
Hey, Jim...I am very busy deconstructing Christianity until it is
totally shattered...and can only be resurrected as a Gay Religion.
That is the only thing that will salvage this abusive cult. A little
help in my corner would be most appreciated, and would go a long way
towards accelerating our race to liberation. For soon, there will be a
War unlike any way we've ever known:
CHRISTIANS 1 PAGANS 0
That's the present score, but just you watch the Pagans when they next
come up for bat. Infusing the Christian faith with the light of true
paganism is its only hope.
So get out there and rewrite the parables (as I am), to honor gay
people...and disseminate them via the Internet.
Then cover the *other books of both Testaments, until we have
completely revamped Judeo-Christian fable into an LGBT celebration.
That is my dream; that is what my website's all about. Blessed be our
Family!
---
"Give us marriage or give us death:
Slay the beast of homophobia!"
-Zeke Krahlin, Chief Thracian
http://surf.to/gaybible