GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 617
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Waldenbooks
Child abuse
gay men's fear of intimacy
The return of Joe Clark... *not*
K-Mart & Walgreens book ban...
ROTC
censorship
san fran and gays
Statistics on geographic concentrations of Gay men
AIDS History
1993 National LGBT Studies Conference
research position
IN THE LIFE
Getting AIDS in the mail
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 09:05:45 EDT
From: k...@pacscl.uarc.upenn.edu (Kimberly Rizvi)
Posted-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 09:05:45 EDT
Subject: Waldenbooks
The number for the Waldenbooks Corporate Headquarters is (203)
352-2000. (I used to work there). The CEO's name is Harry Hoffman.
I believe Waldenbooks makes book buying decisions for the K-Mart
stores, so maybe y'all should try calling there -too bad it's not an
800 number.
Also. speaking of gay librarians, the front cover of the July/August
American Libraries magazine shows the gay and lesbian task force of
the American Library Association at the pride march in San Francisco.
- Kim
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From: Tim Cook <ti...@kbss.bt.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 14:35:34 BST
Subject: Re: Child abuse
In the UK the metropolitan police (covering the greater London area) issued a
report that stated that 90% of child abuse was carried out by heterosexual men
abusing girls. The abuser was usually a close family member (father or uncle).
I don't know when this report was issued or if it's been updated or if any
figures have been gathered for the rest of the country.
If anyone has got more upd-to-date/accurate figures, pleas let me know as I
often quote these figures when someone tries to accuse *all* gay men of
being child abusers.
tim
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From: chr...@wv.MENTORG.COM (Chris McCabe)
Subject: Re: gay men's fear of intimacy
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 8:34:31 PDT
Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.30]
Is there any research that suggests that gay men fear intimacy any more
than straight men? Based on my own personal knowledge, I would guess it
is more the other way around. The gay couples I know are much more intimate
with each other than the straight couples I know.
-Chris
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Chris McCabe chris_...@mentorg.com
Mentor Graphics Corporation (503) 685-7000
Member of Technical Staff - Core Engineering
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Subject: The return of Joe Clark... *not*
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 12:10:21 -0400
From: Joe Clark <joec...@SCILINK.ORG>
Hi, <insert predictably effeminized salutation here>!
I am not a subscriber to Girlnet, but am QUITE aware of and flattered by
the attention I have been getting in my absence. You people miss me more
than my old friends in long-lost cities do! You people. You're so fab.
Should any of you wish to snatchnote, go right ahead..
And I assume you all know that Canada's gold medalist in the 100m
backstroke, Speedo/beef/homoerotic Bugle Boy jeans spokesperson Mark
Tewkesbury, is an homosexualist? Today's papers are full of stories about
how clean-cut his image is. Either they are working at intense levels of
irony or... we know something they don't.
I do not mean to start an outing debate. There is no room for debate. I
just outed him.
-
Joe Clark
joec...@scilink.org
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 10:40:27 -0600
From: Ryon Brame <ry...@support.avalanche.com>
Subject: K-Mart & Walgreens book ban...
I just called K-Mart to complain about them not selling Magic Johnson's
book on AIDS. The women who answered the phone claimed that the store's
administration considered "the book [to] contain graphic and offensive
language that doesn't fit in with our image as a family store." It was
_very_ obvious that she was just reading a script. I read her the riot
act, after which she admitted that they were conducting a poll and that
she whould put me down as "against". GIVE THEM A CALL!! I can tell they're
ready to back down!
K-MART
1-800-635-6278
310 West Big Beaver Road [what a name!]
Troy, Michigan 48084
I also called Walgreens. The women there was extremly nice and told me
that "upper management" had just discussed this matter yesterday and
decided to stick by their original decision (to not sell the book). I told
her I thought it was deplorable and she said she wanted my name and
address, because she thought it would be reconsidered shortly.
She seemed more impressed with my call when I told her I discovered the
store's policy on my own (lie!). It will probably carry more weight with
them if you do the same - then they won't think this is an orchastrated
campaign.
WALGREEN'S
1-800-289-2273
Corporate Office:
200 Wilmont Road
Deerfield, Illinois 60015
CALL TODAY! Remember: Activism each day keeps the doctor away!
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| Ryon Brame | ***** | "You can lead a horticulture, but you |
| ry...@avalanche.com | *** | can't make her think." |
| Boulder, Colorado | * | - Dorthy Parker |
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 12:00:41 CDT
From: jjscally <JJSCALLY%UKANVM...@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject: ROTC
Anyone on the net involved with the American Civil Liberties Union's
task force on the Dod's homophobic policy directive? If so,
e-mail me privately, please. I want to pass along a suggestion I
would rather not put in writing. :-)
If there's no one from ACLU on the net, is there anyone who knows how
to contact someone involved in the task force via e-mail?
Thanks.
Jim Scally
jjscally@ukanvm
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From: avi...@opal.tufts.edu
Subject: censorship
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 18:54:47 GMT
Hello again everyone!
I am writing to personally thank Joel and all other's posting
information about discrimination and censorship and what we can do to fight
back. I was really shocked when I read that Joel got negative feedback for
trying to keep us all informed. I was even more shocked (and insulted) when he
was told that the people on the net would rather talk about sex and not aids.
The last time that I checked the two were not mutually exclusive subjects.
Also i find it hard to believe and, accept, that while we are trying to get the
facts about aids discussed rationally out in the open of mainstream society
there are those on this line (those who we can assume are gay and are being
faced with discrimination inadvertantly through aids censorship) who would
rather sweep the subject under a rug of convienency. In the past few weeks
since I started recieving gaynet I have really enjoyed the subjects discussed
and the personalities discussing them. I do not know who decided to use the
royal "we" in telling Joel that the gaynetters did not want to discuss aids but
rather sex instead but I beleive that there are 1-900 numbers available for
just such a purpose and those people might give them a call.
Incidently, you all know that there are only two kinds of people who
may use the term "we" when refering to themselves in the singular. Those peope
are 1) Royalty and 2) people with tape worms.
Well, thats all for now I'm sorry if it all seems like one long moral
diatribe. - Anthony "awareness" Viola
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From: den...@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Michele Keffer)
Subject: san fran and gays
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 17:46:00 GMT
I read this somewhere and don't know how much credence to give it..
that during WWII a lot of men were sent back from overseas for
being gay (or maybe it was just around this time, I find it hard
to believe that they didn't want gay cannon fodder during a war)
and they were dropped off on the west coast and many didn't want
to return to their families and repression, so they stayed there-
I suppose this could also work for east coast areas (men comeing
back from Europe). Please don't flame me- I don't know if this
is true or not, but I figure someone on this net does know the
answer to that....
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 14:17:01 EDT
From: Ken Sherrill <KSSHC%CUNYVM...@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject: Statistics on geographic concentrations of Gay men
New Mexico Gabriel wonders if there really are more gay men in SanFrancisco or
if reputation affects perceptions of reality.
As part of one of my current researc projects, I have counted every gay bar in
the US (at least, I've counted every one listed in Bob Damron's Guide-- a rela-
tively authoritative listing.
A majority of the localties which have passed gay rights legislation have more
than one gay bar per hundred thousand population. This is, roughly, the ratio
found in New York City and in Los Angeles. San Francisco has over 9.7 gay bars
per 100,000 population. All those patrons can't be tourists.
Ken Sherrill
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 14:10:13 EDT
From: Bob Summersgill <XE6...@gwuvm.gwu.edu>
Subject: AIDS History
The origin of the AIDS related virus is a still unanswered question.
It appearently originated in Africia, as a human version of the
Simian Immuno-deficiency Virus (SIV). The virus was then appearently
spread to Haiti, and then to the United States. (As well as other routes.)
Haiti was, for a time, a popular gay male tourist spot. And hence, the
virus spread in the US, initially and fastest through the gay (white) male
community. There is some evidence that the virus appeared in the US as
early as the late fifties, but it was not identified as a unique disease
until 1981, when a rare cancer killed several men in whose only connection
is that they were all gay.
As to the rumors of labratory created/artificial/CIA sponsored/Genocidial
conspiracies, well they only the weakest basis for belief. Yes, there were
some poorly conducted polio vaccine studies conducted in West Africia that
may have helped spread (or even mutate the SIV into HIV), but there is
no evidence to suggest that there was any deliberate malicious/genocidial
intent. There is even some evidence, weak again, that the virus is
hundreds of years old, but not wide spread or discovered until people
started living long enough to notice that they where dying of this disease.
(That last statement was a bit convoluted and may be ignored.) The
traditional out of power groups are largely responsible for the promulgation
of the conspiracy/genocide theories, but many who hold those ideas were
promoting AIDS as gods revenge on faggots not so long ago. It does seem
clear from the demographics of the spread of the disease, that US queers
were not the target group at if such a conspiracy has any validity. We
just seem to be the group with carribean travel plans.
In any event, the problem of AIDS/HIV has moved well beyond the
question of where it came from, into the much more serious question of
what to do to keep people alive (infected and uninfected).
Please also don't take the above as a historian's guide, see the better
works available everywhere.
- Bob Summersgill | If we can put a man on the moon, why can't
XE605C @ GWUVM.GWU.EDU | we put a man on the moon? -- Bill Engfer
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 14:30:24 EDT
From: Michael Montgomery <MICHAEL%PUCC....@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject: 1993 National LGBT Studies Conference
Reprinted without permission from _Lesbian & Gay Studies Newsletter_ (July
1992), p. 8:
1993 NATIONAL LESBIAN, GAY, BI & TRANSGENDER STUDIES CONFERENCE UPDATE:
Working Statement, Contacts
We want to plan a conference that brings together the intellectual, cultural,
and political aspects of our communities. While encompassing the traditional
activities and theme of the national lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender
studies conference, we also want to include elements of a cultural festival
and a political conference. However, we want to do more than just add cultu-
ral and political "components" to the existing model. We are proposing a new
model in which all three elements--scholarship, culture, and politics--have
equal standing.
We want to challenge the boundaries that separate these activities. At the
same time, we want to respect differences. Our approach is rather than choose
between a cultural, political, or scholarly conference, to ask why we can't
do all at once. We see scholars presenting papers to other scholars, artists
and writers networking with other artists and writers, and activists planning
stategies and organizing with other activists. But we also want to create
spaces where interaction and teaching between scholars, artists, and activ-
ists can happen. Participation in these spaces would be voluntary. What we
are proposing has never been tried before, so it's important that everyone who
attends find comfortable and familiar spaces as well as opportunities to
be challenged. Finally, as part of our commitment to diversity, wherever pos-
sible members of populations directly affected by or represented in a pro-
posed presentation will be included in the review process and/or as formal
commentators during the presentation.
[Those interested in participating in the planning process may contact these
committee members]:
Program/Scheduling: Melissa Murphy, 415-474-1365
Administration: Joe Gonzales, 415-861-2895
Sponsorship: Michael Siever, 415-826-5562
Paper Rev/Select: Evie Blackwood, 510-535-1537
Finance/Budget, Karen Gallaghar, 415-626-3017
Outreach: Hank Tavera, 415-647-7655
Promotion/Publicity: Linda Heidenreich, 415-334-7409
Host/Site Logistics: Terrance Kissack, 415-771-4794
For general information, contact:
1993 LGBT Studies Conference, c/o Karen Gallaghar, 194 Douglass St., San
Francisco, CA 94114
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 15:02:07 CDT
From: Stephanie Smith <K295SS%TAMVM1...@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject: research position
Does anyone know of a postdoc or research position doing research on
sexual abuse survivors, battered women, or rape victims? I am looking
for something that would start next summer, but since these jobs seem to
hire a year in advance, I thought I better start looking. Any information
would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Stephanie Smith
K295SS@TAMVM1
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 14:40:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Loren Meissner <lmei...@u.washington.edu>
Subject: IN THE LIFE
Mime-Version: 1.0
Does anyone know how I can get in touch with the producers of the IN THE
LIFE television series? (need specific address/phone number).
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As I reported last week, the local (Seattle) PBS TV station (KCTS-9) is not
carrying the series (IN THE LIFE) because they say that the program does
not meet their quality standards at the present time. However, I contacted
the station manager at the TV station (KCTS-9) and while no change was
made to the station's position, he indicated that he would have no
objection to airing the program over the local cable TV public access channel.
So now I am trying to contact the producers of IN THE LIFE to see if this
can be arranged. Thanks for your help and support.
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 20:58:34 EDT
From: gan...@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu (Thomas M Farrell)
Subject: Getting AIDS in the mail
Yes, you CAN infect an article of postage... Just make it have unprotected
intercourse with someone who is infected.
Give me a break. If someone tossed a paper airplane at Jerry Falwell he'd claim
it was an attempt on his life by radical faggots.
Tom
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