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From: Marilyn Mossman <mmos...@hillelday.org>

Hi All,
I tried setting up a video call with 2 people today and every time the 2nd
person connected we lost the video. Does anyone know if it is even possible to
do multiple video connection with Skype? If so, is there a setting that I need
to change?

Any help is appreciated,

Marilyn Mossman | Director of Technology
Hillel Day School of Metropolitan Detroit
Office: 248-539-1493 | 32200 Middlebelt Rd, Farmington Hills, MI 48334 |
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Sep 20, 2010, 10:15:43 PM9/20/10
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From: Jeffrey L Jones <je...@emck.net>

Marilyn:
That's just scary. I was staring at the Skype Beta 5.0 page when
your email wandered in. Multipoint connections are sound-only for ver.
4.x. 5.0 beta
(http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/windows/beta/)
supports up to 4 video connections, according to the site. Unfortunately,
I haven't used it (was researching it for use for a connection project a
co-worker is working on), so I have no idea how well it works. It's been
beta for a good while, which makes me nervous. But who knows!
Jeff

Jeffrey L. Jones, District Technology Resource Teacher
Coordinator, Virtual Classrooms and Communications, Fayette County Schools
Fayette's iSchool - http://ischool.fcps.net/
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701 East Main Street
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when I was young."
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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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From: John Thompson <jthom...@verizon.net>

New beta version supports up to 10 participants with video -
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/windows/beta/?cm_mmc=socialm|skypeblogs-_-global|intl|en-_-bigblog-_-groupvideocalling|beta2


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Chase 208, Buffalo State College
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> From: Jeffrey L Jones <je...@emck.net>
>
> Marilyn:
> That's just scary. I was staring at the Skype Beta 5.0 page when
> your email wandered in. Multipoint connections are sound-only for ver.
>
> 4.x. 5.0 beta
>
> ( <http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/windows/beta/>
> http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/windows/beta/)
>
> supports up to 4 video connections, according to the site. Unfortunately, I
> haven't used it (was researching it for use for a connection project a
> co-worker is working on), so I have no idea how well it works. It's been
> beta for a good while, which makes me nervous. But who knows!
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> Jeffrey L. Jones, District Technology Resource Teacher Coordinator, Virtual
> Classrooms and Communications, Fayette County Schools Fayette's iSchool -

> <http://ischool.fcps.net/> http://ischool.fcps.net/ Teacher's iSchool


> Development Community The Point, a Fayette County Blogspot -

> <https://edtech.fcps.net/blog/> https://edtech.fcps.net/blog/


>
> 701 East Main Street
>
> Lexington, KY 40502
>
> (859)381-4124
>

> <mailto:jeffre...@fayette.kyschools.us>


> jeffre...@fayette.kyschools.us
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
> in deep space that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when
> I was young."
>
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>
> Douglas Adams (The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Marilyn Mossman <mmos...@hillelday.org>
>
>>
>
>> Hi All,
>
>> I tried setting up a video call with 2 people today and every time the
>
>> 2nd person connected we lost the video. Does anyone know if it is
>
>> even possible to do multiple video connection with Skype? If so, is
>
>> there a setting that I need to change?
>
>>
>
>> Any help is appreciated,
>
>>
>
>> Marilyn Mossman | Director of Technology Hillel Day School of
>
>> Metropolitan Detroit
>
>> Office: 248-539-1493 | 32200 Middlebelt Rd, Farmington Hills, MI 48334
>

>> | <mailto:mmos...@hillelday.org%3cmailto:mmos...@hillelday.org>

EDTECH Editor-Jones

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Sep 22, 2010, 10:38:57 PM9/22/10
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From: Jeffrey L Jones <je...@emck.net>

A little more research on Skype. The site states that you are
awarded a free subscription to their multi-point connection service
for a period of time, renewable for free as long as version 5.0 is
in beta. After that, all bets are off. The connection count varies
depending on which beta version you're looking at...there's
conflicting information on the site.
We also tried OoVoO, which used to be a great open source project.
They also offer multipoint connections (up to 6) free, for a period
of time, with ads, but when it's gone, it's gone. We're trying to
figure out which way to go with that for our project. The
subscription fees aren't expensive, but everybody at the table has
to have paid them for certain functionalities (such as screen
display).
My vote is still with H.323, but many schools don't have access,
I'm afraid.
Jeff

Jeffrey L. Jones, District Technology Resource Teacher
Coordinator, Virtual Classrooms and Communications, Fayette County Schools
Fayette's iSchool - http://ischool.fcps.net/

Teacher's iSchool Development Community
The Point, a Fayette County Blogspot - https://edtech.fcps.net/blog/

701 East Main Street
Lexington, KY 40502
(859)381-4124

jeffre...@fayette.kyschools.us
"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
— Douglas Adams (The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)

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EDTECH Editor-Jones

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Sep 23, 2010, 10:26:07 PM9/23/10
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From: "Marilyn Mossman" <mmos...@hillelday.org>

Thanks for the info. What is H.323?

Marilyn Mossman | Director of Technology
Hillel Day School of Metropolitan Detroit
Office: 248-539-1493 | 32200 Middlebelt Rd, Farmington Hills, MI 48334 |

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Sep 23, 2010, 10:47:12 PM9/23/10
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From: Jeffrey L Jones <je...@emck.net>

Marilyn:
H.323 is the videoconference protocol used by hardware systems like
Polycom and Tandberg. There are a few software solutions out there
using it too. Most H.323 systems are sitting behind bridging and
routing (our state Office of Educational Technology provides that
for us), but they'll work as stand-alone systems as long as they
are visible to the "outside world" in some way, and the
Internet/network throughput is good enough. The quality is much
better than Skype or they're ilk (assuming throughput), but an
entry-level hardware installation for classroom use will cost $4500
(hardware, display mount/cart) education pricing.
We use Polycom's software PVX install as a "poor man's H.323." It
costs about $150 (it's been awhile since we bought it, so I'm
guessing), uses an ordinary computer, webcam, and large display.
But in the classroom I find it a little awkward to use, and sound
(mic and speakers) harder to manage.
The main problem it has, of course, is finding others who use it.
They're out there, but nothing like Skype's counts.
Hope this helps!
Jeff

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Sep 24, 2010, 9:36:42 PM9/24/10
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From: "Craig Gruneberg" <cra...@psu.edu>

But is this just a trial version? Can't help but think that profit will
overshadow user features/convenience as interest in this technology
continues to mount.

-craig


> From: John Thompson <jthom...@verizon.net>
>
> New beta version supports up to 10 participants with video -
> http://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/windows/beta/?cm_mmc=socialm|skypeblogs-_-global|intl|en-_-bigblog-_-groupvideocalling|beta2
>
>
> John T. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Educational Technology Program
> Computer Information Systems Dept.
> Chase 208, Buffalo State College
> 1300 Elmwood Avenue, Buffalo, NY 14222
> (716) 878-3531 office - (716) 860-0341 cellphone
>
> <mailto:thom...@buffalostate.edu> thom...@buffalostate.edu
>
> Skype: john.thompson62
>
> Twitter: jtt
>
> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed
> until it is faced."
> ~ James Baldwin
>

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Sep 24, 2010, 9:37:34 PM9/24/10
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From: "Mr Griffiths" <mrgri...@stjhill.org>

No. It is NOT possible to do multiple video calls on Skype. You can have one
call and do texting to others at the same time, however.

> From: Marilyn Mossman <mmos...@hillelday.org>
>
> Hi All,
> I tried setting up a video call with 2 people today and every time the 2nd
> person connected we lost the video. Does anyone know if it is even
possible
> to do multiple video connection with Skype? If so, is there a setting that
> I need to change?
>
> Any help is appreciated,
>

> Marilyn Mossman | Director of Technology
> Hillel Day School of Metropolitan Detroit
> Office: 248-539-1493 | 32200 Middlebelt Rd, Farmington Hills, MI 48334 |

> mmos...@hillelday.org<mailto:mmos...@hillelday.org>
>
> At Hillel, we inspire a passion for learning, responsibility to self and
> community, and devotion to Jewish living in a warm and engaging environment
>

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Sep 24, 2010, 9:41:45 PM9/24/10
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From: Marilyn Mossman <mmos...@hillelday.org>

Thanks for the explanation, Jeff. It is a little pricey for us. I think
I'll stick with Skype or Oovoo for now.

Marilyn Mossman | Director of Technology
Hillel Day School of Metropolitan Detroit
Office: 248-539-1493 | 32200 Middlebelt Rd, Farmington Hills, MI 48334 |
mmos...@hillelday.org

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> From: Jeffrey L Jones <je...@emck.net>


>
> Marilyn:
> H.323 is the videoconference protocol used by hardware systems like
> Polycom and Tandberg. There are a few software solutions out there
> using it too. Most H.323 systems are sitting behind bridging and
> routing (our state Office of Educational Technology provides that
> for us), but they'll work as stand-alone systems as long as they
> are visible to the "outside world" in some way, and the
> Internet/network throughput is good enough. The quality is much
> better than Skype or they're ilk (assuming throughput), but an
> entry-level hardware installation for classroom use will cost $4500
> (hardware, display mount/cart) education pricing.
> We use Polycom's software PVX install as a "poor man's H.323." It
> costs about $150 (it's been awhile since we bought it, so I'm
> guessing), uses an ordinary computer, webcam, and large display.
> But in the classroom I find it a little awkward to use, and sound
> (mic and speakers) harder to manage.
> The main problem it has, of course, is finding others who use it.
> They're out there, but nothing like Skype's counts.
> Hope this helps!
> Jeff

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