George Peppard
class P. Srinivasan
that founded or some rumor?
Dawn-
On Mon, 9 May 1994, Carol Slingo wrote:
> Anyone remember HOME FROM THE HILL?
>
Terri A. Mabry
>Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 12:47:51 -0500
>From: "class P. Srinivasan" <lbb...@BLUE.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU>
>Subject: Re: George Peppard
>Somebody at work today told me that he died of Aids related pnumonia, is
>that founded or some rumor?
>Dawn-
that would be weird if it tied in with the whole Philadelphia thread...
i thought it was that his health was deteriorating so much since he drank like
a maniac. don't know.
terri
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Terri Mabry <tam...@uci.edu>
"You know, you're sweet--and you look a little like my brother, Fred.
Do you mind if I call you Fred?" Breakfast at Tiffany's
Guy Rosefelt
George Peppard died of lung cancer of which he had suffered for several
years. Why is it, when an actor dies, there is an immediate rumor about
AIDS?
Guy (who is really steamed at this)
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Stephen B
died of pneumonia; I didn't see any mention of lung cancer as an
immediate cause of death in my superficial skim through the obits.
Rumor flourishes in an environment where secrets are kept. I just
learned yesterday that an actor in a performance piece I produced last
year will very likely die within the next 48 hours. Up to the very
end he has told everyone he has cancer, which is literally true, but
he wouldn't have Kaposi's sarcoma if HIV hadn't allowed it to invade
his system. I don't know if Peppard was HIV+ or -. I do know that
pneumonia is a frequent killer of people with AIDS, and that Hollywood
enforces secrecy about AIDS more than most American cultures. So
while you're getting steamed about rumor-mongering, think about the
social and cultural hypocricy that makes speculation-based rumor
inevitable.
Stephen Brophy
Terri A. Mabry
>Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 09:21:32 EDT
>From: Stephen B <step...@MIT.EDU>
>Subject: Re: George Peppard
I was wondering the same thing when I heard he died of pneumonia. I didn't
hear anything about lung cancer.
BTW, sorry, Stephen, that AIDS has hit so hard around you. That must sound
awfully simplistic, but I really do sympathize.
Kj Fisher
>
At the the risk of ruining rhetoric with a cry for anything
as incorrect as precise expression, one must ask:
How exactly does "Hollywood" "enforce" anything?
Granting for the sake of argument "Hollywood's" enforcement
powers, can it be said that it,they, have been silent or
even reticent about AIDS? They never shut up about it.
They act as if they believe the BS about AIDS in the general
population. It is, and seems likely to remain, a disease of
special interest groups, and their flaks and pilot fish.
kjf
Guy Rosefelt
"Peppard, who underwent successful lung surgery for lung cancer two years
ago, died Sunday night of pneumonia at UCLA Medical Center.....Peppard's
cancer had been in remission since a tumor was removed from his right lung,
but that he entered the hospital Thursday with breathing problems that
developed into pneumonia...."
>> Rumor flourishes in an environment where secrets are kept. I just
>>learned yesterday that an actor in a performance piece I produced last
>>year will very likely die within the next 48 hours. Up to the very
>>end he has told everyone he has cancer, which is literally true, but
>>he wouldn't have Kaposi's sarcoma if HIV hadn't allowed it to invade
>>his system. I don't know if Peppard was HIV+ or -. I do know that
>>pneumonia is a frequent killer of people with AIDS, and that Hollywood
>>enforces secrecy about AIDS more than most American cultures.
An illness is a matter of a personal nature and should be private. It is not
anybody else's business no matter what the illness (and that includes AIDS).
If someone wants to talk about it, they will otherwise LEAVE THEM ALONE.
>>So while you're getting steamed about rumor-mongering, think about the
>>social and cultural hypocricy that makes speculation-based rumor
>>inevitable.
>> Stephen Brophy
Social and cultural hypocricy that makes speculation-based rumor starts in
the home and IS NOT inevitable. It only happens if people fuel the fire by
either starting or, even worse (IMHO), spreading them. If you don't know if
something is true, find out. Learn to think for yourself, get the facts, and
don't believe everything you see, read, or hear.
FLAME OFF
Guy
Roger Taylor
> An illness is a matter of a personal nature and should be private. It is not
> anybody else's business no matter what the illness (and that includes AIDS).
> If someone wants to talk about it, they will otherwise LEAVE THEM ALONE.
>
> Social and cultural hypocricy that makes speculation-based rumor starts in
> the home and IS NOT inevitable. It only happens if people fuel the fire by
> either starting or, even worse (IMHO), spreading them. If you don't know if
> something is true, find out. Learn to think for yourself, get the facts, and
> don't believe everything you see, read, or hear.
In this case, you may be off base. Peppard had been a life long smoker -
thus the lung cancer. His death is a message for us all.
Roger Taylor, Jr.
Guy Rosefelt
See what happens when you indecriminately delete all your mail. I started
the flame about being tired of actors (but never actresses) who died
automatically being considered having done so from AIDS as Dawn posted she
had heard that Peppard had died from AIDS. Stephen responded to me about
these types of rumors would continue as long as people who had AIDS kept it a
secret. You then responded to my response. Now that we recapped that, I
could recap this "art film" I saw last night called WHY THE BOHDRI_LHAMA WENT
EAST but I won't.
Guy (who has been in a flaming mood all morning)
Terri A. Mabry
>Guy (who has been in a flaming mood all morning)
Guy, I think perhaps switching to decaf might be among your options today...
:-)
Moving right along...
terri
...trying to remain a moving target
Film Thang: Has anyone seen "That's Entertainment III" yet? I'm just curious
whether I should travel aaaaaalllllll the way into LA to see it.
George M. Swan III
Guy Rosefelt <guy_ro...@CPQM.SAIC.COM> wrote:
>Now that we recapped that, I
>could recap this "art film" I saw last night called WHY THE BOHDRI_LHAMA WENT
>EAST but I won't.
>
>Guy (who has been in a flaming mood all morning)
(Poor guy.)
Why not recap the "art film"? BTW the title is more like WHY BOHDI DARMA
WENT EAST, isn't it? A Korean film about a Buddist monk, his mentee,
and a young outcast boy. I liked it: a beautiful "temple" of a film in
"reverence" to the spirit, life, death.
We have a festival of South Korean films, "Ten Years of Cinema 1983-1993"
starting here this weekend. They include Sopyonje; Come, Come, Come
Upward!; Spinning Wheel; The Rooster; Chil-su and Man-su; The Age of
Success. Anyone have any recommendations?
George
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Guy Rosefelt
>>Why not recap the "art film"? BTW the title is more like WHY BOHDI DARMA
>>WENT EAST, isn't it? A Korean film about a Buddist monk, his mentee,
>>and a young outcast boy. I liked it: a beautiful "temple" of a film in
>>"reverence" to the spirit, life, death.
And slow as molasses. I've never wanted a film to end so much in my entire
life.
Guy