help: DFH...
Claussen
Is there anyone who knows what the DFH stands for? No one in my class
knows, so it perked my interest. If anyone knows, can they please send
a message my way.
Jerry Ozaniec
In article <34610709...@hotmail.com>, clauss...@hotmail.com
(Claussen) wrote:
> Is there anyone who knows what the DFH stands for? No one in my class
> knows, so it perked my interest. If anyone knows, can they please send
> a message my way.
It stands for nothing. It is an arbitrary set of characters.
But if you insist, I prefer "Destined For Hursley". :-)
Jerry Ozaniec
Zonko Enterprises Limited
http://www.compulink.co.uk/~zonko/
Vella Robert C
We always thought it was :"Dollars For Hardware"
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From: FAdvice
To: CIC...@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: help: DFH...
Date: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 10:22PM
Dan,
It stands for the same thing as IST, IEB, DFS, DSN, and all those other
innumerable IBM product prefixes; absolutely nothing.
Christopher Frank
STAR, Inc
Ed Green
IBM likes to use three characters to identify a product. It helps
tremendously. If all modules and messages use them you can immediately
identify what product is involved. You know which message manual to use for
example. I believe a fellow by the name of Harry wrote the original CICS
code for a customer here in the US (not in Hursley, I think it was
Pittsburg) I dont remember Harrys last name but he was recognized at the
last CICS technical conference. I believe that I remember hearing that
Harry used DFH because it had something to do with the name of the system
he created the code on for the original CICS. Harry is still around though
long retired and getting on in years. Maybe someone who knows him could ask
him.
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> From: Jerry Ozaniec <Je...@ZONKO.COMPULINK.CO.UK>
> To: CIC...@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: help: DFH...
> Date: Thursday, November 06, 1997 1:51 AM
Moyeen Ahmed Khan
Is it not DenverFootHills - that's where CICS was born, i believe
At 08:56 AM 06/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>We always thought it was :"Dollars For Hardware"
> ----------
>From: FAdvice
>To: CIC...@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: help: DFH...
Volker Bandke
** Reply to note from CICS List <CIC...@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Thu, 6 Nov =
1997 09:52:23 -0500
> I believe a fellow by the name of Harry wrote the original CICS code
> for a customer here in the US (not in Hursley, I think it was
> Pittsburg) I dont remember Harrys last name but he was recognized at
> the last CICS technical conference. I believe that I remember hearing
> that Harry used DFH because it had something to do with the name of the
> system he created the code on for the original CICS. Harry is still
> around though long retired and getting on in years. Maybe someone who
> knows him could ask him.
way off...
The (original) PU/CICS was created by a design team headed by Ben
Riggins, and was for the public utilities corporation in Des Plains,
Illinois. And Ben Riggins is well and alive in California, as far as I
know (and never really liked the idea the CICS responsibility was
transferred to Hursley, UK)
Regards
Volker Bandke
What does CICS mean? - CICS Is Computer Sanity
Volker Bandke
** Reply to note from CICS List <CIC...@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Thus, 6
Nov 1997 08:56:00 -0500 DFH =3D Dollars for Hursley:
Just look at the SIT from way back when:
TCT=3D2$
PCT=3D1$
PPT=3D1$
etc etc pp
My favourite, though, is
DFH =3D Dumb, Fat, and Happy
But really, you are right, it doesn't mean anything (any more). When I
started out, there was a section in the OS/VS1 (or was is SVS, MFT,
whatever) messages and codes manual that explained what the various
character positions were supposed to mean, but that section has
disappeared long since....
Regards
Volker Bandke
What does CICS mean? - Code Is Clearly Structured
Charles Jones
The first version of CICS was written by a man by the name of
Ben Riggins in a town outside of Chicago, Illinois called Des
Planes. A fellow probably most of you know as Mr. CICS aka
Bob Yelavich, who recently retired from IBM helped him with
the BTAM interface. At the last CICS conference in San Fran,
Ben gave a speech and mentioned that the letters 'DFH' stand
for 'Destined For Hursley'. However as most of you will agree,
this prefix was probably just the next one in line for usage.
Charles Jones
SofTouch Systems, Inc.
chris wood
One added comment. I believe the first CICS was written for BF Goodrich if
my memory serves me.
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> From: Ed Green <Ed.G...@ALLTELTS.COM>
> To: CIC...@AKH-WIEN.AC.AT
> Subject: Re: help: DFH...
> Date: Thursday, November 06, 1997 9:52 AM
>
> IBM likes to use three characters to identify a product. It helps
> tremendously. If all modules and messages use them you can immediately
> identify what product is involved. You know which message manual to use
for
> example. I believe a fellow by the name of Harry wrote the original CICS
> code for a customer here in the US (not in Hursley, I think it was
> Pittsburg) I dont remember Harrys last name but he was recognized at the
> last CICS technical conference. I believe that I remember hearing that
> Harry used DFH because it had something to do with the name of the system
> he created the code on for the original CICS. Harry is still around
though
> long retired and getting on in years. Maybe someone who knows him could
ask
> him.
>
> ----------
> > From: Jerry Ozaniec <Je...@ZONKO.COMPULINK.CO.UK>
> > To: CIC...@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: help: DFH...
Bill Lynch
Ed Green wrote:
>
> IBM likes to use three characters to identify a product. It helps
> tremendously. If all modules and messages use them you can immediately
> identify what product is involved. You know which message manual to use for
> example. I believe a fellow by the name of Harry wrote the original CICS
> code for a customer here in the US (not in Hursley, I think it was
> Pittsburg)
Aha, a third "original" site. Was it, by chance, written for the local
utility?
Bill Lynch
(rest snipped)
Bill Lynch
Jerry Ozaniec wrote:
>
> In article <34610709...@hotmail.com>, clauss...@hotmail.com
> (Claussen) wrote:
>
> > Is there anyone who knows what the DFH stands for? No one in my class
> > knows, so it perked my interest. If anyone knows, can they please send
> > a message my way.
>
> It stands for nothing. It is an arbitrary set of characters.
>
> But if you insist, I prefer "Destined For Hursley". :-)
>
Bill Lynch <G>
Bill Lynch
Charles Jones wrote:
>
> The first version of CICS was written by a man by the name of
> Ben Riggins in a town outside of Chicago, Illinois called Des
> Planes. A fellow probably most of you know as Mr. CICS aka
> Bob Yelavich, who recently retired from IBM helped him with
> the BTAM interface. At the last CICS conference in San Fran,
> Ben gave a speech and mentioned that the letters 'DFH' stand
> for 'Destined For Hursley'. However as most of you will agree,
> this prefix was probably just the next one in line for usage.
>
Love to hear from/about him.
I'm sure most of us old timers know Bob Yelavich one way or another. I
met him at a presentation in NYC announcing CICS 1.6 and have read many
red books by him.
Bill Lynch
> Charles Jones
> SofTouch Systems, Inc.
>
> On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:56:00 -0500, Moyeen Ahmed Khan wrote:
>
> >Is it not DenverFootHills - that's where CICS was born, i believe
> >
> >At 08:56 AM 06/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >>We always thought it was :"Dollars For Hardware"
> >> ----------
> >>From: FAdvice
> >>To: CIC...@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
> >>Subject: Re: help: DFH...
Bill Lynch
Jerry Ozaniec wrote:
>
> In article <34620151...@ibm.net>, jim...@ibm.net (Jim Van Sickle)
> wrote:
>
> > FAdvice wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan,
> > >
> > > It stands for the same thing as IST, IEB, DFS, DSN, and all those othe
> > r
> > > innumerable IBM product prefixes; absolutely nothing.
> > >
> > > Christopher Frank
> > > STAR, Inc
> >
> > initially developed for the space agency, but this might be a totally bo
> > gus old
> > wives' tale.
> >
>
> CICS was originally developed in Chicago for a public utility.
>
This is interesting - I heard, back in the mid-70's, that CICS was
developed for Con Ed in NYC (the electric & gas utility for NYC and the
surrounding counties) in the late 60's - early 70's by IBM's Utilities
group (they were organized by industry for a while back then). Wonder
where it actually was developed - not impossible they were doing
parallel development at both sites. I've never heard anything to tie
CICS to NASA, doesn't seem like a good fit.
I don't think "DFH" stands for anything - it's the prefix assigned by
some central unit in IBM to designate all external names for the
product. The original (1967-68) DOS Assembler had entry points called
"APACHE" & "MOHICAN", among others. Apparently one or more programmers
had a thing for Indian tribe names. I heard that some IBM programmer
once used his girlfriends' (past & present) names for entry points.
I believe the one thing we can conclude from the "DFH" prefix is that
the product is considered an application (or at least was when it was
assigned), as opposed to system, e.g., IEB..., IEH..., IGG...
Bill Lynch
Christopher Frank
<< you are mistaken on this DFH stands for the guy initials of one of the
main guy who wrote cics.
>>
The above reads like a lesson in Ebonics.
<< In the early days ibm used this method so they would know who
to wake up out of bed when they had a problem. now it is random
because people ended up having same initials.
>>
I didn't know Ben Riggen's initials were "DFH" (or did IBM make him change
his name each time he worked on a new project?). Or maybe "DFH" was the
letters of his telephone extension, and that way they would know who AND what
number to call?
>> if you ask anyone at ibm or hursley they will never admit to this but I
have a very reliable person (someone who was there at this time).
>>
I guess CICS was developed at Roswell, NM?
How come "reliable sources" never have names? Tell us who "Deep Throat" was
and maybe I'll believe you.
Barnum was right, I guess.
c mc
Hi,
DFH
I have a very old memory - which could be wrong that DFH meant
'deported from Havant
Clement McGann
(remove the blanks)
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