Best Blues Drummers

[ChicagoB...@aol.com]

Here are my favorites:

Fred Below
Odie Payne
Earl Howell (Magic Slim's former drummer)

Blues drumming is an underrated art, and there are not many great blues
drummers out there.

--CB91

[Jinx...@aol.com]

In a message dated 9/6/00 12:36:48 PM, ChicagoB...@aol.com writes:

>Fred Below
>Odie Payne
>Earl Howell (Magic Slim's former drummer)
>
>Blues drumming is an underrated art, and there are not many great blues
>drummers out there.

First of all, you have to put a BIIIIIIIIIIIIG space after Fred Below's name
because he was so much better than anyone else.

Next after him would be Earl Palmer.

I like Odie Payne and Earl Howell, and I would also list S.P. Leary and
Francis Clay.

Dick Waterman
Oxford, MS

[ES1...@aol.com]

Jesse Price! Not a bad singer either!

[morjoe]

The nine years that Kenny (kenard) Johnson spent with James Cotten in the
late 60's to mid 70's are enough to make him the father of "modern" blues
drumming...with Fred Below being the father of
Chicago blues drumming in my mind....

Ed

[Steve Hoffman]

This is a real sore point with me, too. Although there is a role for synthetic,
computerized drums in some of today's techno music, which is after all a genre
of music wedded to the computer, there is no excuse for them in blues and soul
music. None. You take the heart and soul out of blues and soul music without a
real human drummer, IMO. And it just sounds .... well, cheesy and tacky.
Steve Hoffman

Peter Schoen wrote:

> From: <ChicagoB...@aol.com>
> > Blues drumming is an underrated art, and there are not many great blues
> > drummers out there.
>

> Yessss! But not just Blues drumming is an underrated art. R&B and Soul
> drumming as well. Now go tell that one of the countless do-it-yourself
> producers at certain record companies, who think that a drum-computer is a
> good enough rhythm section for their customers.
>
> Actually, it seems to be good enough for the fans, because in an English
> real Soul mag. (In the basement, issue 11, August - October 1998, page 45)
> you could read- a record company promotion man said (you can find the name
> in the mag):
>
> "Last year <record company name> grossed forty-million dollars and will make
> more this year. What do they want to mess about with a drummer for."
>
> Wait a moment while I have to clear my throat...
>
> -Peter

[RBL...@aol.com]

In a message dated 9/6/00 13:48:56, Jinx...@aol.com writes:

<<
First of all, you have to put a BIIIIIIIIIIIIG space after Fred Below's name
because he was so much better than anyone else. >>

Wrong Dick. He may have been so much better than other drummers in Chicago
blues bands, but he was not better than Earl Palmer. Listen to palmer on not
just Fats Domino's work, but say Archibald.
Some other drummers
Johnny Otis
Roy Milton
Jo Jones, Listen to some of his work with Basie, partiuvlarly the jones
-Smith version of Boogie Woogie, and then listen to Odie Payne on Johnnie
Jones I May Be Wrong or some of Below's work. Also recommended would be some
of the stuff he did with Jimmy Rushing in the 50s for Vanguard.
Charles 'Honeyboy' Otis, great New Orleans drummer who has been such a part
of the New York scene
Paul Humphrey
Sonny Freeman (on some of B;B.'s great recordings

Ron W

[Louis Music]

My favourites, in alphabetical order:

Sam Carr
Peck Curtis
Steve Cushing
Willie Nix
Earl Phillips
Judge Riley
Willie Steele

JL
London UK

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[IronMan Mike Curtis]

One of my favorites is Max Bangwell.

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Willie Smith
George Raines
Danny Cochran

Patti
southwestblues.com

[Potter, Walter]

As of last weekend I would have to rank Gene Melendraras of Dr. Hector and the Groove Injectrors pretty high on the drummers list. But many might not consider it blues drumming. And I'm no expert.
--
maxdog

[Jim W]

I didn't see this thread. I assume some one mentioned Fred Below, Sam
Myers, and Bobby Baranowski?

Rgds...Jim
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[Joe Lempkowski]

Ted Harvey
Sam Lay

if you wanted to keep the list alphabetized.

Joe
http://members.home.com/jlemko

BigBl...@aol.com wrote:

> My favorites, in alphabetical order are:
>
> Sam Lay
> Sam Lay,
> and, Sam Lay,
> and, I wish I could remember the name of Hound Dog Taylor's drummer, but,
> Him!
>
> dog
>
> Michael "Big Dog" Murphy, the most haunting, soulful, blues singer you'll
> ever hear! Wednesday's 7-9pm FOXLEY'S COFFEE BREAK CAFFE, Appleton, WI;
> Thursday's 7-10pm CLUB WEST, Appleton, WI; Monday's 6-8pm FAMOUS DAVE'S
> BARBECUE, Appleton, WI.
> 9/9-10 ROCKIN' SHORE PUB (9p-1a), Hwy 42, Algoma, WI.
> http://hometown.aol.com/bigbluzdog/myhomepage/index.html
> http://www.justwebit.com/members/31231
> Order his CD: "Michael Murphy Live and Blue"
> @ http://Got.To/bumpNgrind

[Steve Hoffman]

Hound Dog Taylor's drummer - the great TED TAYLOR - one of my favorites!!
I also really dig the traditional (i.e., 50s-60s) Chicago guys like Fred
Below, SP Leary, Odie Payne.
Steve H

[R. L. Eagle]

Alvino Bennett, a young man who worked with Mighty Joe Young in 1972, could
make 'em TALK!! He later moved to New York, I believe.

Bob

>From: ChicagoB...@aol.com
>Reply-To: ChicagoB...@aol.com
>To: BLU...@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU
>Subject: Best Blues Drummers
>Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:36:23 EDT
>
>Here are my favorites:
>
>Fred Below
>Odie Payne
>Earl Howell (Magic Slim's former drummer)
>
>Blues drumming is an underrated art, and there are not many great blues
>drummers out there.
>
>--CB91

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The great, Philip Paul, whom I ever the please of working with on a regular basis. I can't think of any drummer who has logged as many blues/R&B recording sessions as Philip. He's a wonderful person, on top of being an incredible musician.

Sean Carney

[morjoe]

> Russ Wilson (Skeeter Brandon) & Rick Hodges (Ex-Dave Foraker)>>

Hey Jerry are you related, brother in law, band member or what to Dave
Foraker?....we should all have such myopic fans!

Ed

[morjoe]

> In a message dated 9/6/00 6:12:58 PM, jjp...@bluemarble.net writes:
>
> << I guess what i'm saying is, shitty sampled drums sound shitty.
> when it's used right, it can be awesome. but those tools shouldn't
> be off limits to blues players (or soul or R&B or whatever). >>
>
> This is just my opinion: If it ain't got flesh and blood drivin' it, it's
> just another machine takin' a hard workin' musician's job away. (No
offense,
> Ironman!)

The truth of the matter is that records are like
stews....if they taste good, you really can't tell and don't want to know
what goes into them.... Producer's job is to make records sound good
according to what they can do
to whats there without changing the integrity of the performance .....There
are things done on most records that you just can't hear......
regarding drums samples cuts pastes etc....
if you hear them we complain about how cheesy it is, if we don't hear it ,
we don't know......Hell ...I have altered parts added kicks, crashes, snares
and the original drummer thinks he played it.......

Ed

[morjoe]

Five or six years back some of the Drum magazines did extensive interviews
with Fred Below and the like....I am sure if you checked their websights you
may find some real useful not fan oriented opinions and info on
drummers.....I can't remember the names of the mags....maybe

Modern Drumming is one of them... I have the articles somewhere zeroxed for
me..
Great stuff...about Bo Diddley Groove etc

Ed Vadas' Fabulous Heavyweights
http://www.tagyerit.com/blues.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Irving" <joh...@mediaone.net>
To: <BLU...@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Best Blues Drummers

> With all of the posts highlightling the best blues drummers of all time, I
> am reminded that I haven't specifically featured any drummers on the Once
> and Future Blues.
>
> Although I did a little research on the web I got back very little other
> than the usual AMG profiles(not that there's anything wrong with them).
>
> If anyone has a good bio on Fred Below, Odie Payne, etc., etc. that I
could
> use please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> The Once and Future Blues
> http://www.oafb.net

[John Irving]

Thanks for the tip Ed. I took a look at the Modern Drumming
website...unfortunately they don't maintain a large archive on the web.

I'm going to keep surfing the drummer-related mags and maybe something will turn
up.

John

[PJ Santiago]

My faves are:
Fred Below, Earl Howell and Boston's Marty Richards

(Does anyone know who Earl's working with these days, last time I saw him
(2 yrs. ago) he was with Studebaker John? If ya see him, tell him PJ said
hey)

PJ Santiago
Cafe Blues
WSMU 91.1fm
285 Old Westport Rd.
N. Dartmouth, MA 02747

[Vicente "Harmonica" Zúmel]

My favourites are:

The Late Great, Fred Below
Bob Plunkett
Kansas City Red

[words...@webtv.net]

Check out Eileen Murphy of the Kerry Kearney Band. A graduate of the
U.S. Army School of Music, same as Billy Cobham and Steve Gadd, This
former paratrooper is also the first call substiture with New York's
premier R&B outfit, "Little Buster and the Soul Brothers". Murphy and
slide guitarist Kearney recently set the house on fire at a NYBS jam
session with NYC's Kid Java on harmonica, Joyous Perrin on bass and
Conan O'Brian's Jimmy Vivino on guitar.
You can hear Murphy on the Palmetto CD Kerry Kearney, samples available
on the web site www.kerrykearney.com

[Joe Griffin]

This is actually called the Armed Forces School of Music and military band
members from the Army, Navy, and Marines are required to attend this school.
Besides drummers, any type of musician who has attended this school comes
out a good, professional player. I had the opportunity to meet Billy Cobham
at a clinic in Shreveport many years ago and I asked him about his
experience there. Basically, the school didn't do anything for him. But you
have to understand that Cobham is in a league where very few people ever get
to be. This guy spent years of practicing hours and hours every day before
he ever got to the school.

When I was at the school, there was another guy from New York there named
John Dohr (sp). The guy was incredible. He could do shit that I couldn't
even begin to comprehend, with absolutely no effort. Even though he had the
same classes and things that the rest of us had, he was doing a lot of
showcase things with the faculty bands and was definitely a more polished
player than the majority of the folks there. The same was true of Cobham
and, I'm sure, Steve Gadd.

For normal players like me, when I got there they put me on a mandatory
practice schedule of 20 hours a week, (and this was besides all the daily
classes and playing Army shit you had to do). And if they didn't think you
were playing as well as they thought you should be there was always the
threat that, if you didn't get your shit together, you too could have a
glorious career in the infantry. Outside of that, I will also say that this
was one of the best experiences in my life. I worked my ass off, my playing
got better, and my mind was opened to a lot of musical concepts that you
just don't pick up on growing up behind the Pine Tree Curtain in East Texas.

Grif

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[John Irving]