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anyone care to guess the guitarist (it's not ronnie earl)

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c.n.

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May 28, 2004, 9:22:50 AM5/28/04
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In case that link breaks up, I'll add this sorther one:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?M2C225C68
chuck

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Steve Edmonson

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May 28, 2004, 2:02:41 PM5/28/04
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Chuck,

I'm not sure who the guitarist is, but nice take on Magic Sam's "Ridin'
High." I've been doing that one every night lately. If I had to guess, I'd
probably say Johnny Moeller, not because of the sound, but more because of
your past support for him.

Steve Edmonson
edmo...@comcast.net
The Jackie Payne-Steve Edmonson Band
http://www.payne-edmonson.com

c. n.

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May 28, 2004, 4:10:30 PM5/28/04
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Nope...it isn't Johnny Moeller (but you get do get points for not being
thrown
by the false title, which essentially is about all that Ronnie's Someday,
Someway is). <g>

Steve, who does the toughest version of Ridin' High, outside of Magic Sam's
version?

Hey there CB91, how about you...wanna venture a guess? Say wha....you don't
have this
cut in your vast collection? Go home, just go home.

Here's a hint, he's still alive.
chuck

pat boyack

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May 28, 2004, 4:42:22 PM5/28/04
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Paul Size? I bet that if it's not then whoever he is, he's from Texas. I
think that because for a while there in the 90's a whole slew of us guitar
players here in D/FW played this song or a version of it. We all went to
the Hash Brown School of blues and the first course was Magic Sam.

Pat B
If I win do I get a DBS t-shirt?


>Here's a hint, he's still alive.
>chuck

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c.n.

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May 28, 2004, 4:51:21 PM5/28/04
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Pat, I have bad news....I am completely out of DBS t-shirts.

Oh darn, that doesn't matter, because you're wrong anyway. I think in
this area, Anson was mining the Magic Sam vein first--even before Hash
Brown moved to town.

Of course, when it comes to the schoolin' factor, I doubt if anyone has
taught more people/shown the ropes and licks, and unselfishly at that,
than the good Mr Brown!! (but it's not him either). HB probably knows,
but I'm hoping he doesn't tell. chuck

Pat....

Steve Hoffman

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May 28, 2004, 5:55:51 PM5/28/04
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Is it Nick Curran? -- I've heard him do that Magic Sam instrumental
thing during his two DC area club shows . . .
- Steve Hoffman

c.n.

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May 28, 2004, 6:34:31 PM5/28/04
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Nope, but a good guess. Nick does a pretty decent job with it too. I'm
guessing that by the names being tossed out that the ones replying
consider it to be a nice take. Keep in mind that it was recorded, straight
to cassette deck!<g> Hey Steve (Edmondson), how about tossin' up a
version of you doing it (i know you have to be taping kind). I'd like to
hear it, raw and all. chuck

On Fri, 28 May 2004 17:55:49 -0400, Steve Hoffman <st...@goodnote.com>
wrote:

Blue Stew

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May 29, 2004, 4:12:49 AM5/29/04
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Jimmy Vaughan?
mike

Ton Wanten

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May 29, 2004, 6:03:08 AM5/29/04
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I know that you know that I know!

T.
The Netherlands


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c. n.

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May 29, 2004, 6:36:32 AM5/29/04
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Nope, but good guess. Both have a certain chunkiness/thickness to their
tone.
chuck

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>Jimmy Vaughan?
>mike
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pat boyack

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May 29, 2004, 7:39:35 PM5/29/04
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How about Little Doyle or Doyle Bramhall II, whatever he goes by these
days? My last guess would be Denny Freeman.

Pat B

Terence McArdle

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May 30, 2004, 12:28:02 AM5/30/04
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In a message dated 5/30/04 12:03:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
LIST...@LISTS.NETSPACE.ORG writes:

<< Nope...it isn't Johnny Moeller (but you get do get points for not being
thrown
by the false title, which essentially is about all that Ronnie's
Someday,
Someway is). <g>

Steve, who does the toughest version of Ridin' High, outside of Magic
Sam's
version?

Hey there CB91, how about you...wanna venture a guess? Say wha....you
don't
have this
cut in your vast collection? Go home, just go home.

Here's a hint, he's still alive.
chuck
>>

Well, I heard the clip and I can't guess who it is BUT I can name two people
from the East who can play Sam's stuff that good or better: Bobby Radcliff
and, believe it or not, Mark Korpi who used to play with Evan Johns and The
H-Bombs (as well as Ted Roddy and Gary Primach). Also, John Tictin (Johnny & The
Headhunters) can play like that -- but only on a really good night with the
right rhythm section. (I saw him do Riding High while sitting in with Eddie Shaw -
which took balls - at the long defunct Georgetown club Desperadoes in '79 or
'80 on a night when there were only about five or six drunk conventioneers in
the house.) BTW - That rendition needs a good tenor sax for the call and
response! And I think the tune Riding High is actually a takeoff on a Hank
Crawford or Fathead Newman tune.

Terence McArdle

ChicagoB...@aol.com

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May 30, 2004, 12:44:29 AM5/30/04
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Rockin JOhnny used to do Ridin High as well as Bobby King's "The Chaser".
What, Chucky, you don't have that in your tiny collection?

c. n.

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May 30, 2004, 4:45:03 AM5/30/04
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Good guesses. I figured Bobby Ratcliff and Ron Thompson both might get some
nods. I haven't ever heard Korpi do the Magic Sam stuff, but I have heard
him tear the hell out of a joint on a couple of different nites. chuck

>From: Terence McArdle <Jtmc...@cs.com>
>Well, I heard the clip and I can't guess who it is BUT I can name two
>people
>from the East who can play Sam's stuff that good or better: Bobby Radcliff
>and, believe it or not, Mark Korpi who used to play with Evan Johns and The
>H-Bombs (as well as Ted Roddy and Gary Primach). Also, John Tictin (Johnny
>& The
>Headhunters) can play like that -- but only on a really good night with the
>right rhythm section. (I saw him do Riding High while sitting in with Eddie
>Shaw -
>which took balls - at the long defunct Georgetown club Desperadoes in '79
>or
>'80 on a night when there were only about five or six drunk conventioneers
>in
>the house.) BTW - That rendition needs a good tenor sax for the call and
>response! And I think the tune Riding High is actually a takeoff on a Hank
>Crawford or Fathead Newman tune.

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c. n.

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May 30, 2004, 5:01:42 AM5/30/04
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>From: ChicagoB...@aol.com

>Rockin JOhnny used to do Ridin High as well as Bobby King's "The Chaser".
>What, Chucky, you don't have that in your tiny collection?


Nope, but I have known who Cal Green is for about the last 25 years....so
put that in your massengil
refill and gargle with it. I guess Rockin Johnny is ok, as long as you
haven't heard much Lafayette Thomas or Jimmy Spruill, which I'm guessing you
haven't. The next time you go in the studio, try to channel some of that
sort of untamed energy, instead of fretting over what Rockin Johnny's gonna
think. Besides, you'll always be his "little tee ni nee nu."
:)

chuck

car...@seancarneyband.com

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May 31, 2004, 9:50:26 AM5/31/04
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cne...@hotmail.com wrote:

"I guess Rockin Johnny is ok, as long as you haven't heard much Lafayette Thomas or Jimmy Spruill..."

Good to see Wild Jimmy Spruill mentioned on the 'L. I've been hanging with one of his comtemporaries lately, Bo Diddley, Jr. who is one bad m*therfucker! Bo's guitar work is heavily influence by Wild Jimmy. Of course, he has been and will most likely continue to be overlooked in favor of long haired guys in cowboy boots with high tech pedals and artificially aged guitars.

My fair city's very own "King Saxe" Gene Walker lived and gigged in NY during the 50's and 60's and also knew and played with Spruill quite often.

-Sean Carney

c. n.

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May 31, 2004, 10:01:22 AM5/31/04
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>From: "<Sean Carney>" <car...@seancarneyband.com>
>Reply-To: car...@seancarneyband.com

>To: BLU...@LISTS.NETSPACE.ORG
>Subject: Re: anyone care to guess the guitarist (it's not ronnie earl)
>Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 08:50:24 -0500

>
>cne...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>"I guess Rockin Johnny is ok, as long as you haven't heard much Lafayette
>Thomas or Jimmy Spruill..."
>
>Good to see Wild Jimmy Spruill mentioned on the 'L. I've been hanging with
>one of his comtemporaries lately, Bo Diddley, Jr. who is one bad
>m*therfucker! Bo's guitar work is heavily influence by Wild Jimmy. Of
>course, he has been and will most likely continue to be overlooked in favor
>of long haired guys in cowboy boots with high tech pedals and artificially
>aged guitars.
>
>My fair city's very own "King Saxe" Gene Walker lived and gigged in NY
>during the 50's and 60's and also knew and played with Spruill quite often.
>
>-Sean Carney

Then we know he can hang...because Spruill's the kind of player where
the band damn near needed to be strapped in! Him and Lafayette Thomas,
in their prime, are two cats that I really wish I could have seen.

Of course you know this Sean, but it's worth mentioning that Spruill played
the ultra cool guitar on Wilbert Harrison's hit version of "Kansas City."

BTW, i enjoyed your bittersweet analogy re these cats. Too bad, too true.
chuck

car...@seancarneyband.com

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May 31, 2004, 10:24:59 AM5/31/04
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Right on, Chuck! Spruill was a heavy in New York for many years and played on a lot of Bobby Robinson's sessions. Incidentally, last time I was in New York, I stopped in Bobby's record shop in Harlem, Bobby's Happy House of Music. Mr. Robinson who is well into his eighties was uber-friendly and charismatic beyond human capacity - what was meant as a short look around turned into an all afternoon affair as Bobby entertained all of my questions with a ton of cool stories about Elmore James, Willis Jackson, Jimmy Spruill, Tiny Grimes, Bill Jennings and many others. Bobby was a major figure in Blues and R&B and that's no bullshit... pity that Robinson gets zero recognition, but some clod dedicates an entire hour of prime time to Marshall "I'm so hip" Chess... ack!

Speaking of Bo Diddley, Jr. - I've got him on a high profile gig here in Columbus on July 10 - he'll at least be a star here in Columbus.

-Sean Carney

cne...@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Then we know he can hang...because Spruill's the kind of player where the band damn near needed to be strapped in! Him and Lafayette Thomas, in their prime, are two cats that I really wish I could have seen.

Of course you know this Sean, but it's worth mentioning that Spruill played the ultra cool guitar on Wilbert Harrison's hit version of "Kansas City."

BTW, i enjoyed your bittersweet analogy re these cats. Too bad, too true."

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Steve Edmonson

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May 31, 2004, 4:18:30 PM5/31/04
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Funny that Lafayette "Thing" Thomas' name would come up today. It seems
that Rusty Zinn had noticed our Tenor player's (Carl Green) name on some of
Thomas' sessions, and asked Carl about it. Carl couldn't remember the
specific sessions, but damned if Rusty didn't come up with an LP that lists
him in the personel. Carl hasn't heard that stuff since 1968. He doesn't
have a turntable, so he gave me the LP last night, and I'm burning a CD for
him as we speak. Great Stuff! I told Carl that I had planned on visiting
Thomas' grave to take a photo for that dead blues guys website, and he
surprised me by saying he may want to pay his respects. He then proceeded
to tell me some stories on Lafayette Thomas and Al King. Mostly in
relation to how cool they both were to work with. In addition to having
recorded with some of my favorite Oakland/West Coast blues bands since the
late 50's, Carl has played countless live gigs with guys like Buddy Ace,
Jimmy McCracklin, Jimmy Witherspoon, Al King, Sonny Rhodes, Lowell Fulson,
Percy Mayfield, Pee Wee Crayton, Mississippi Johnny Waters and many more,
and though it's sometimes hard to coax them out of him, he's got stories for
days. As we are getting back out on the road more these days, I hope to
hear them all.

Like Chuck, I wish I could have seen more of these cats live.

Steve Edmonson
edmo...@comcast.net
The Jackie Payne-Steve Edmonson Band
http://www.payne-edmonson.com

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