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pat boyack

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Sep 24, 2006, 10:26:23 PM9/24/06
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How much money do you think they spend on lobbyists for Congress every
year?

The people we elected both Democrat and Republican are doing the insurance
companies bidding just like they did two years ago with the credit card
companies. They also gave the oil comanies tax credits. How nice.....

We elected them and they're letting this shit happen.

But hey....WE HAVE CHEAP GAS UNTIL THE SECOND WEEK OF NOVEMBER!!!!!

Can't wait to see how high gas is this time next year....$4 dollars a
gallon maybe?

Pat B

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E Willett

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Sep 24, 2006, 11:38:54 PM9/24/06
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The last line of the first message in this string was...."I'm not blaming any one politician or party...I'm beginning to think they're ALL self-serving slugs."...
George

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How much money do you think they spend on lobbyists for Congress every
year?

The people we elected both Democrat and Republican are doing the insurance
companies bidding just like they did two years ago with the credit card
companies. They also gave the oil comanies tax credits. How nice.....

We elected them and they're letting this shit happen.

But hey....WE HAVE CHEAP GAS UNTIL THE SECOND WEEK OF NOVEMBER!!!!!

Can't wait to see how high gas is this time next year....$4 dollars a
gallon maybe?

Pat B

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Deb Lubin

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Sep 25, 2006, 12:04:19 AM9/25/06
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What's "cheap" gas in your area, Pat? Here it's down to $2.71 a gallon as of yesterday.
Deb

pat boyack <p...@PATBOYACK.COM> wrote: How much money do you think they spend on lobbyists for Congress every
year?

The people we elected both Democrat and Republican are doing the insurance
companies bidding just like they did two years ago with the credit card
companies. They also gave the oil comanies tax credits. How nice.....

We elected them and they're letting this shit happen.

But hey....WE HAVE CHEAP GAS UNTIL THE SECOND WEEK OF NOVEMBER!!!!!

Can't wait to see how high gas is this time next year....$4 dollars a
gallon maybe?

Pat B

bluesfantom

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Sep 25, 2006, 12:24:44 AM9/25/06
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Pat B wrote in part:

> How much money do you think they spend on lobbyists for Congress every
> year?
>

Funny thing this. I've got to rub shoulders with the two guys who spend
money for COPA (Committee On Political Action) and I find it really
interesting. Since they, COPA, lobby for USPS four major Unions (a union
cannot directly involve its funds in this, but does expend a lot of effort
in getting its members to pony up), they look at representatives and
senators voting records. If they vote for "worker rights", they will be
offered, and I could be wrong on this exact amount, but I think it's close,
$5k for reps and $10k for senators. If one of these reps or senators vote
wrong, the money is yanked. It isn't beaucoup bucks, but it does make a
statement with them and they hear it.

When I was in Philadelphia they gave us the low down on who all's getting
our support for this election cycle. There were a few republicans in the
batch, whom they referred to as worker friendly. There were a few where the
race was close and in some instances, no money was being given to either
side. In some cases, as this rep. Flake guy from AZ, who is running
unopposed, and because his name really reflects his voting record, no money
goes to him. There have been a few instances where the politician is so
against us they refuse to even listen or take money (I respect that), and
there are a few who refuse to accept our money even though they have been
very good friends to our cause (Maria Cantwell is one, Jef) . Most, I've
discovered, will whore themselves to any money offered.

As for unionism these days, I am thoroughly amazed that we have to be as
transparent as clear glass. All too often, all our funds are under a
microscope. On the other hand, management, not just the USPS, but others
such as the auto and air industries, can hide all sorts of evils from
everyone. The NLRB (National Labor Relations Board) had its teeth taken out
back under Reagan, and has steadily been gutted by every president
(including Clinton) ever since. One disgruntled employee can call them up
and close down a local. But just try to get management to abide by the
contract. That's a joke. And when we do corner management on something,
usually so outrageous as to be unbelievable, the best the NLRB will do is
force management to write an apology and post it for 30 days. That'll make
'em stop.

In the current climate, big business is writing all the legislation, whether
it is about credit, insurance, fuel, mass mailers, whatever. We, as voters,
need to take back the whole enchilada and let them know this is about our
country, for the people, by the people, etc etc. Only we can stop the "buy
the people" (can we say polarize the issues?). That is the lesson we as
voters need to take to the ballots come November.

tom
PS Best buy in my little burg is $2.90 a gal. Pat's right, second week of
Nov that will change. If they lose, they'll take it out on us. If they
win, they'll celebrate by raising the price again and again...I still call
it "gouging".

Ricky Stevens

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Sep 25, 2006, 6:41:36 AM9/25/06
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>From: Deb Lubin What's "cheap" gas in your area, Pat? Here it's down to
>$2.71 a gallon as of yesterday.
>Deb
>

$2.24 in the Memphis suburbs Saturday.

Funny thing, last year Bush wasn't doing enough to keep gas prices down.
Now, Bush is responsible for driving down prices to make a statement. Looks
like the President can't win for losing.

Ricky Stevens
Arkabutla, Mississippi

c. n.

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Sep 25, 2006, 7:16:17 AM9/25/06
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>From: Deb Lubin <debl...@sbcglobal.net>

>What's "cheap" gas in your area, Pat? Here it's down to $2.71 a gallon as
>of yesterday.
>Deb

Regular unleaded is $2.17 all over town in Dallas. It's still not cheap, but
it is cheaper...and as I predicted on Sep 14th on my blog
http://tinyurl.com/mutoe they'll continue to fall as the mid-term elections
draw near. chuck

c. n.

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Sep 25, 2006, 7:16:29 AM9/25/06
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So Ricky, speaking of "funny things," are you implying that Bush is
blameless, that the current falling prices aren't a measured and calculated
ploy of the right? Do you think he was right to give BIG OIL the tax breaks
he has, while at the very same time those same companies were reporting the
largest quaterly profits of any companies in America's history?
chuck

Michael Huggins

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Sep 25, 2006, 9:36:29 AM9/25/06
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Cheap gas in Paris, Texas is $2.12/9. Dallas Is 2.17/9 according to
my friends there.
michael

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genres/cultures.
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Walter Potter

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Sep 25, 2006, 9:50:50 AM9/25/06
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I saw gas for sale at $2.18 a gallon on the way into work. That's nice but I agree with Pat, it'll go back up in the middle of November.
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maxdog

Son Lewis

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Sep 25, 2006, 10:55:44 AM9/25/06
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In a message dated 9/25/2006 7:16:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cne...@hotmail.com writes:

So Ricky, speaking of "funny things," are you implying that Bush is
blameless, that the current falling prices aren't a measured and calculated
ploy of the right?


Maybe not blameless, but here in the Northeast there as been a "naturally
occurring" cycle for decades. Summertime and vacation, gas prices go up from
Memorial Day to Labor Day. Summer's over, gas prices go down. This happened
here when gas was 39 cents a gallon and it happened when gas was $1.39 a
gallon and it is happening now. I suspect it happens in other parts of the US
and Canada as well.

But I don't dis-believe for a MOMENT that the current administration will
not milk this for every vote it's worth...

Jimmy Jacobs

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Sep 25, 2006, 11:45:51 AM9/25/06
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It was $1.97 for regular at several stations in Montgomery yesterday. It
bothers me that people are excited that gasoline is now "cheap".


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I saw gas for sale at $2.18 a gallon on the way into work. That's nice but I
agree with Pat, it'll go back up in the middle of November.
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Forcella, Domenic , Public Safety

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Sep 25, 2006, 11:56:41 AM9/25/06
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Okay that's it.
I haven't seen anything below $2.48 for 87 octane.
Maybe its too blue in Connecticut.

Actually I can make do with gas, it is the heating oil that worries me.

Dom

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It was $1.97 for regular at several stations in Montgomery yesterday.
It
bothers me that people are excited that gasoline is now "cheap".

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Stephen McClaning

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Sep 25, 2006, 4:16:25 PM9/25/06
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Why PUBLIC money ??? Didn't the dome have insurance ? If not, why ? There
is a great book in the struggle of individuals against insurance companies
in NO.

Stephen M. McClaning

Joel Fritz

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Sep 25, 2006, 4:34:34 PM9/25/06
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I'm guessing the Superdome was self insured. Public buildings often are.

Insurance companies tend to be perfectly happy with their customers as
long as they don't make claims.

"I asked that pawn shop man. What's them three balls hanging on the
wall. "It's two to one, buddy, you won't get your stuff out of here at
all."--Blind Boy Fuller, "Three Ball Blues"

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Tweed

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Sep 25, 2006, 4:59:42 PM9/25/06
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$2.52 down here in Palm Beach County at one station I saw today.

Better invest in some long johns and extra blankets Dom. It'll be a cold
winter up north this year.

Tweed

Stan Erhart

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Sep 25, 2006, 5:03:39 PM9/25/06
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Many private companies are also self-insured over a certain amount. In
some industries, the premiums are too high to do otherwise. A major claim
can bankrupt many companies. I used to work for a high-rise scaffolding
company that was self insured for anything over about a half million
dollars. Any time a major accident happened, they sent investigators to
gather information just in case they were sued later on, even if their
equipment didn't appear to be involved. They were based in Atlanta, but
when a crane killed someone in San Francisco, they investigated (they
didn't even sell or rent cranes). Corporate CYA'ing so we could keep our
jobs.

Joel Fritz <willie...@comcast.net>
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c. n.

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Sep 25, 2006, 10:37:43 PM9/25/06
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I really, honestly don't think it's the White House pulling strings to make
the prices fall (they aren't good enough to carry out more than one agenda
at a time--and right now they are in "scare Americans with terra" mode), I
think it's the BIG OIL boys, quite possibly doing it all on their own.
Because they know that if the Dems get control of things, they plan on
changing things as far as what profits are taxed and how, and they are
simply playing dirty pool. They'd rather lose a little right now, and
diminish resentment gathered at the pumps, than lose a helluva lot more
later.
chuck

Blue Stew

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Sep 25, 2006, 11:14:56 PM9/25/06
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There is no argument that the Bush family has made (and still does)
money from OIL and WAR for a long time. G Dub, has the power to suck
this nation dry ...and that's exactly what he's doing!

"...George W. Bush in 2000 barely mentioned his forefathers. Millions of
Republicans who have loyally voted for Bushes in three presidential
elections simply have no idea. Here are circumstances and biases
especially worth noting.The Bushes and the military-industrial complex:
George H. Walker and Samuel Prescott Bush were the dynasty's founding
fathers during the years of and after World War I. Walker, a St. Louis
financier, made his mark in corporate reorganizations and war contracts.
By 1919, he was enlisted by railroad heir W. Averell Harriman to be
president of Wall Street-based WA Harriman, which invested in oil,
shipping, aviation and manganese, partly in Russia and Germany, during
the 1920s. Sam Bush, the current president's other great-grandfather,
ran an Ohio company, Buckeye Steel Castings, that produced armaments. In
1917, he went to Washington to head the small arms, ammunition and
ordnance section of the federal War Industries Board. Both men were
present at the emergence of what became the U.S. military-industrial
complex..."more at : http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0208-05.htm

mike
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Chefo...@aol.com

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Sep 25, 2006, 11:24:20 PM9/25/06
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just as i suspected the Bush family is out to distroy the world for their
own gain...and they killed Kenny...the bastards!!!

Fred Dabney

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Sep 26, 2006, 1:38:34 AM9/26/06
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> It was $1.97 for regular at several stations in Montgomery yesterday. It
> bothers me that people are excited that gasoline is now "cheap".

Interesting effect. Jack up the price 30 cents a gallon, let it sit
there for a few days, then cut it 20 and everyone celebrates
the big drop.

Fred D.

Sandor Gulyas

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Sep 26, 2006, 4:03:53 PM9/26/06
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There was a suit filed over the construction of the Superdome roof, since it was supposed to be safe for winds up to 200 MPH, several months ago.

When in doubt people, go to www.nola.com if you need Katrina information instead of throwing out your personal beliefs concerning "the blame game" on here.

Sandor (who reads the Times-Picayune every Sunday)

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Jef Jaisun

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Sep 27, 2006, 12:50:07 AM9/27/06
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On 24 Sep 2006 19:26:23 -0700, p...@PATBOYACK.COM (pat boyack) wrote:

>But hey....WE HAVE CHEAP GAS UNTIL THE SECOND WEEK OF NOVEMBER!!!!!
>
>Can't wait to see how high gas is this time next year....$4 dollars a
>gallon maybe?

Maybe six in six weeks. The stuff below was forwarded by a pal in
Cal. But who's counting? Oh yeah...the majors are down to $2.79 in
Seattle, which means ARCO is probably at $2.50. I'll find out
tomorrow cuz I'm down to E. We ALWAY get hosed in the Northwest, even
though we have a huge refinery 60 miles north. National average a
week ago was $2.14.

Jef
>>>>>>>

Sorry to spoil your weekend but here's your "October Surprise",
Rove-certified and direct from NeoCon Central .

US Naval Strike group ordered to move off Iran's west coast.
It looks like Bush is gonna to blockade the Straits of Hormuz, the #1
chokepoint for Iran Oil shipping. That'll make a swell Holiday
Season, huh? How about $6 per gallon gas for that Thanksgiving drives
to Grandma's?

From "The Nation":http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061009/lindorff
"According to Lieut. Mike Kafka, a spokesman at the headquarters of
the Second Fleet, based in Norfolk, Virginia, the Eisenhower Strike
Group, bristling with Tomahawk cruise missiles, has received orders
to depart the United States in a little over a week. Other official
sources in the public affairs office of the Navy Department at the
Pentagon confirm that this powerful armada is scheduled to arrive off
the coast of Iran on or around October 21."

jaywatt...@comcast.net

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Sep 28, 2006, 12:53:26 AM9/28/06
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Their bank also based the Nazi's before WWII.
Interesting family, indeed.

Jay

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