Fw: Re: Pronunciation help needed
chrisradio4
I also do a world music show and it is stunning to me how seldom there is any indication of how to at least pronounce the name of the artist (never mind song titles).
Very seldom (given the vagaries of English) is pronunciation self-evident.
So anyone here that produces bio sheets and such for radio, please consider starting to include that just as a matter of course. It would be a huge help to those of us in radio who really do work hard to try to get all this stuff right.
From: Steve Hoffman <steveh...@starpower.net>
Subject: Re: Pronunciation help needed
To: BLU...@LISTS.NETSPACE.ORG
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 10:56 PM
Y'know, as someone's who's been doing blues radio shows -- and undoubtedly mispronouncing names! -- since 1971, I've often wished there was some central place one could go to get proper pronunciations of the artists' names!� (Even press kits that are sent out by record companies and publicity agents typically do not include phonetic spellings or pronunciation tips).
The one summer (many moons ago) I worked at a radio news dept., I discovered that the AP copy (back then used to come printed out on scrolls of paper from a clanking old "wire-service machine") always included phonetic pronunciations of all the names in the news.� (That's how newscasters can correctly pronounce the name of Iranian President Ahmadinejad and so on!).
I assume there's also something similar for sports announcers. (The hockey announcers, IMO, have the hardest job -- not only is the game lightning-quick, but so many players have Russian, Finnish, Swedish and other foreign numbers that do not easily roll off the tongue of an American announcer).
But in the blues, we're usually left to our best guess.
As to Mabon, I've always said it "MAY-bon"� But that don't prove it's right!
-Steve Hoffman
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Jonny Meister
one site:
http://www.loc.gov/nls/other/sayhow.html#o
also: If NPR has ever done a piece on someone, you can hear it at
npr.org & get the pronunciation there....
-Jonny
Greg Nagy
They should include the anglocized versions when available. ;)
Nagy, Ivan (ļæ½-Vļæ½N Nļæ½ZH-ļæ½)
People often write (djs in particular) inquiring how to pronounce my last
name. It has always been like Navy for me with a LONG A and with a g of
course.
My grandparents pronounced it a bit different than the "how to"
listing...interesting stuff though. Certainly gets you in the ball park. I
just book marked it!!
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Jonny Meister <bluesan...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Always looking for help in this area...
>
> one site:
>
> http://www.loc.gov/nls/other/sayhow.html#o
>
> also: If NPR has ever done a piece on someone, you can hear it at npr.org& get the pronunciation there....
>
> -Jonny
>
>
> Blues-L web site: http://www.netspace.org/~blues-l/<http://www.netspace.org/%7Eblues-l/>
Ricky Stevens
Ricky Stevens
Arkabutla (just like it's spelled), Mississippi
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Jonny Meister <bluesan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Always looking for help in this area...
> >
> > one site:
> >
> > http://www.loc.gov/nls/other/sayhow.html#o
> >
> > also: If NPR has ever done a piece on someone, you can hear it at npr.org& get the pronunciation there....
> >
> > -Jonny
> >
>
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P.W. Fenton
> but how anyone could mispronounce Biloxi, Itta Bena, or Belzoni is
> beyond me.
Wait a minute... who in the world would pronounce "Itta Bena" the way
locals pronounce it... Ate-a bean-a?
P.W. Fenton
Hudson, FL
http://BluesLand.Net
George Willett
is kiss-SIM-mee
You don't even want to *mess *with Thonotosassa..
George
Dick Waterman
________________________________________
The real strange one is Kosciusko which is the home town on Oprah Winfrey, Charlie Musselwhite, James Meredith and Delta Museum director Shelly Ritter.
It is pronounced "koz YESS ko" by the locals.
And who is it named after?
He was a Polish military man who came to fight for the Americans in the Revolutionary War.
Dick Waterman
Walter Potter
> Florida has a similar problem... that town near Disney World (for instance)
> is kiss-SIM-mee
>
> You don't even want to *mess *with Thonotosassa..
Wanna try out pronouncing Estiffanugla, FL? Me neither ... And Wakulla,
as IN Wakulla Springs, is pronounced Wah-kull-uh but my mother insists
on calling Way-kool-uh even though I've corrected her numerous times.
The one that takes the cake is Cairo, GA which is pronounced Kay-row.
Havana, FL is called Hey-vana by the old time locals but is slipping
into normal pronunciation.
Also I can't tell you how many times I've heard Mobile, AL pronounced
mow-bile, or worse mobal, instead of the proper mow-beal. Gautier, MS is
pronounced Go-shay, not gaw-tee-er.
--
Walter
Keep on keepin' on ...
Jimmy Jacobs
Karo syrup was made until I was in college.
BTW, I'll add Guin, Alabama (pronounced Gee-Win) to the list. On the rare
occasion while I was growing up that the national broadcasters had to
pronounce Dothan, it was Dot-Hand. Guess enough has happened there now that
they seem to get it right these days.
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Stan Erhart
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Jay Watterworth
Jay
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Walter Potter
> Wanna try out pronouncing Estiffanugla, FL? Me neither ...
BTW, there is a story that goes with this town's name. The story is that
two Florida crackers back in the old pioneer days were out hunting in
the woods and came across a dead "injun" and one said " 'e's stiff!" and
the other said "an' ugla too", hence the name of the town.
Pam
with symphony, art, ballet, etc., there are blues performances by Drink
Small, Wanda Johnson, Shrimp City Slim, Juke Joint Johnny, Smoky Weiner
and others [See: Blues Content included]
While in Charleston, take a carriage ride down Legare [Le-gree] Hasell
[Ha-zle] and Prioleau [Pree-low] Streets, catch at performance at the
Gaillard [Gee-yard that's a hard "G"] Auditorium, take a side trips to
Huger [U-jee], Horry [Or-ee] County, and then to Pocotaligo
[Pok-i-tal-i-go] where so the story goes, they used to hold the turtle
races and to get the turtle to start you would "Poke he tail, he go" and
that is how the town got its name.
Walter Potter wrote:
> George Willett wrote:
>
>> Florida has a similar problem... that town near Disney World (for
>> instance)
>> is kiss-SIM-mee
>>
>> You don't even want to *mess *with Thonotosassa..
>
>
> Wanna try out pronouncing Estiffanugla, FL? Me neither ... And
> Wakulla, as IN Wakulla Springs, is pronounced Wah-kull-uh but my
> mother insists on calling Way-kool-uh even though I've corrected her
> numerous times. The one that takes the cake is Cairo, GA which is
> pronounced Kay-row. Havana, FL is called Hey-vana by the old time
> locals but is slipping into normal pronunciation.
>
> Also I can't tell you how many times I've heard Mobile, AL pronounced
> mow-bile, or worse mobal, instead of the proper mow-beal. Gautier, MS
> is pronounced Go-shay, not gaw-tee-er.
>
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bluesfantom
Seattle. At a little gathering, someone went up to David Hyde-Pierce and
gave him a piece of paper with the local town name Puyallup on it and asked
how Niles Crane would pronounce this. David, in his best Niles Crane voice
said, "He would not!"
I still like this story. There are lots of feather Indian names all around
here, along with some pretty good French names too, Coeur d'Alene, Pend
Orielle, to name a couple. And then to describe where in the hell Spokane
is...even to folks in Portland who somehow think Spokane is a suburb of
Seattle...
tom
George Willett
That one sounds (and looks) French-influenced
George Ouillett
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Walter Potter
<maxdog-...@comcast.net>wrote:
Sandor Gulyas
type the correct pronounciation of my name (both first and last).
Spelling is at the bottom of this post if you're interested.
2009/5/23 Greg Nagy <gjn...@gmail.com>:
> As a semi-self-indulgent aside:
>
> They should include the anglocized versions when available. ļæ½;)
> Nagy, Ivan (ļæ½-Vļæ½N Nļæ½ZH-ļæ½)
>
> People often write (djs in particular) ļæ½inquiring how to pronounce my last
> name. ļæ½It has always been like Navy for me with a LONG A and with a g of
> course.
>
> My grandparents pronounced it a bit different than the "how to"
> listing...interesting stuff though. ļæ½Certainly gets you in the ball park. ļæ½I
> just book marked it!!
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Jonny Meister <bluesan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Always looking for help in this area...
>>
>> one site:
>>
>> http://www.loc.gov/nls/other/sayhow.html#o
>>
>> also: If NPR has ever done a piece on someone, you can hear it at npr.org& get the pronunciation there....
>>
>> -Jonny
--
Sandor Gulyas
M.A. Geography - Louisiana State Univ. '08
B.A. Geography - Ohio State Univ. '02
MARK SCHOSSOW
> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 00:11:39 -0500
> From: pamb...@earthlink.net
> with symphony, art, ballet, etc., there are blues performances by Drink
> Small, Wanda Johnson, Shrimp City Slim, Juke Joint Johnny, Smoky Weiner
> and others [See: Blues Content included]
>
> While in Charleston, take a carriage ride down Legare [Le-gree] Hasell
> [Ha-zle] and Prioleau [Pree-low] Streets, catch at performance at the
> Gaillard [Gee-yard that's a hard "G"] Auditorium, take a side trips to
> Huger [U-jee], Horry [Or-ee] County, and then to Pocotaligo
> [Pok-i-tal-i-go] where so the story goes, they used to hold the turtle
> races and to get the turtle to start you would "Poke he tail, he go" and
> that is how the town got its name.
>
>
> > George Willett wrote:
> >
> >> Florida has a similar problem... that town near Disney World (for
> >> instance)
> >> is kiss-SIM-mee
> >>
> >> You don't even want to *mess *with Thonotosassa..
> >
> >
> > Wanna try out pronouncing Estiffanugla, FL? Me neither ... And
> > Wakulla, as IN Wakulla Springs, is pronounced Wah-kull-uh but my
> > mother insists on calling Way-kool-uh even though I've corrected her
> > numerous times. The one that takes the cake is Cairo, GA which is
> > pronounced Kay-row. Havana, FL is called Hey-vana by the old time
> > locals but is slipping into normal pronunciation.
> >
> > Also I can't tell you how many times I've heard Mobile, AL pronounced
> > mow-bile, or worse mobal, instead of the proper mow-beal. Gautier, MS
> > is pronounced Go-shay, not gaw-tee-er.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
Walter Potter
> I'll have to think of a reward I can give to the first person who can
> type the correct pronounciation of my name (both first and last).
>
> Spelling is at the bottom of this post if you're interested.
I have a friend whose last name is Ennemoser. When asked how to
pronounce it he tells people "Smith."
--
Walter
Keep on keepin' on ...
Blues-L web site: http://www.netspace.org/~blues-l/
Gregory Johnson
Honestly, isn't Spokane just an inconvenience you have to go through to get to Couer d'Alene??? LOL
Greg
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And then to describe where in the hell Spokane
is...even to folks in Portland who somehow think Spokane is a suburb of
Seattle...
tom