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Jerry Rose

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Jul 9, 2002, 4:26:24 AM7/9/02
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TO List:
I'm doing research for an article.
Can you think of any noteworthy Jewish blues talent,
besides Mark Nofler?


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Jean-Julien Pauwels

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Jul 9, 2002, 4:42:46 AM7/9/02
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If this is Mark Knopfler you're talking about, I wonder how many Zellers
would qualify him as blues artist ?

JJ
http://www.ibelgique.com/bluesquest

Jerry Rose

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Jul 9, 2002, 5:09:25 AM7/9/02
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>>If this is Mark Knopfler you're talking about, I
wonder how many Zellers would qualify him as blues
artist ?>>

You can call him "bluesy-guitarist" if it'll help you
sleep better tonight. You gentile bastard! Oy Vey!
Now can you contribute a name or two please?

Jean-Julien Pauwels

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Jul 9, 2002, 5:22:34 AM7/9/02
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Hey,
Don't want want to start an argument here,
but if Mark Knopfler qualifies then
Bob Brozzman might aswell

JJ (the gentile bastard)
http://www.ibelgique.com/bluesquest

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Bob

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Jul 9, 2002, 8:29:44 AM7/9/02
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Jerry wrote:
>TO List:
>I'm doing research for an article.
>Can you think of any noteworthy Jewish blues talent,
>besides Mark Nofler?

Somehow I sense a troll here, but to start a reply:

Michael Bloomfield
Barry Goldberg
Danny Kalb
Stefan Grossman
early Buzzy Feiten (Paul Butterfield band alum)
Freebo
The Chess brothers get honorable mention
McKinley Morgenfield (a joke, folks, but from the name wouldn't you think?)


Bob

Buddy Fox

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Jul 9, 2002, 9:33:08 AM7/9/02
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If we are to include the Chess Brothers, Then we should also include Bruce
Iglauer(Alligator) and Richie Rosenblatt(Tone Cool).

For some modern Bluesmen..Popa Chubby(Ted Horowitz)

Buddy

McIntosh, Iain

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Jul 9, 2002, 10:23:50 AM7/9/02
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There is an interesting article called "Jew's Blues" at http://weeklywire.com/ww/06-07-99/chicago_raw.html

Best wishes, Iain McIntosh

Winchester, Hampshire, England
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Greg White

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Jul 9, 2002, 12:32:46 PM7/9/02
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What about our own blues-l member BARRY LEVENSON? I'm
sure he has an opinion on the subject.

Greg

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BARRY DOLINS

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Jul 9, 2002, 1:09:14 PM7/9/02
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is he jewish?
michael bloomfield
barry goldberg - two jews blues

>>> Jerry Rose <bluesmy...@yahoo.com> 07/09/02 04:07AM >>>


>>If this is Mark Knopfler you're talking about, I
wonder how many Zellers would qualify him as blues
artist ?>>

You can call him "bluesy-guitarist" if it'll help you
sleep better tonight. You gentile bastard! Oy Vey!
Now can you contribute a name or two please?

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Joel Fritz

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Jul 9, 2002, 1:15:03 PM7/9/02
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Willie (the Lion) Smith made some records with Joe Turner. IMHO it didn't
work very well, but probably others disagree.

harrydukbutz

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Jul 9, 2002, 2:21:13 PM7/9/02
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I know Mark is Jewish,"Blueish", and Scottish. And he's a gearhead Must
be some trailer park in his blood line (LOL). I love his work. And a
great songwriter.


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> From: Jerry Rose <bluesmy...@yahoo.com>
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>
> >>If this is Mark Knopfler you're talking about, I
> wonder how many Zellers would qualify him as blues
> artist ?>>
>
> You can call him "bluesy-guitarist" if it'll help you
> sleep better tonight. You gentile bastard! Oy Vey!
> Now can you contribute a name or two please?
>
>
>
>
>

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harrydukbutz

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Jul 9, 2002, 2:26:21 PM7/9/02
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Here are a couple of favourites. Peter Green and Mike Bloomfield. Arlen
Roth comes to mind. Jack Lord ( oops ! Yes Jack Lord is Jewish :-) ).
"Ramblin'" Jack Elliot.


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> Date: 7/9/02 1:25:07 AM
> Subject: Jewish blues greats?
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> TO List:
> I'm doing research for an article.
> Can you think of any noteworthy Jewish blues talent,
> besides Mark Nofler?
>
>

Barry Pickell

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> If we are to include the Chess Brothers, Then we should also include Bruce
> Iglauer(Alligator) and Richie Rosenblatt(Tone Cool).>

Then we must include the only non musician Blues Hall of Fame member and
Zeller.
Mr. Dick Waterman. (Isn't 'Zeller" a Jewish name)

Barry

Blue Stew

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Jul 9, 2002, 8:41:15 PM7/9/02
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Zeller "Rabbi" Steve Weitz & the Bar Mitzvah Pigeons have a GREAT blues CD
out, "Vutz A Mehn to Do". http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/pigeons
My son...the big shot musician, too busy to call his own mother! What...I
don't make enough chicken soup for you? Thank God your uncle(may he rest in
peace)Hiram isn't here to see it!!
I'll bet that nice boy from the television "the Man Show"...Jimmy Kimmel
calls his mother.
And...when am I gonna get some grandchildren!?
Why don't you play music like that nice Neil Diamond boy...oy!!
Why can't you be more like that nice Mike Fishell boy that plays in your
band? He's a teacher ya know...and he calls his mother.

Salty Dog

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>From: BARRY DOLINS <bdo...@CITYOFCHICAGO.ORG>

>Subject: Re: Jewish blues greats?
>


Bob Dylan?


NaCl K9
Stretching...


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Jay Watterworth

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Jul 9, 2002, 9:57:46 PM7/9/02
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Michael Bloomfield, some Bob Dylan

Jay Watterworth
Department of Sociology
University of Colorado at Boulder

Nora Ephron said (about Washington politics, but apropos here), "No
matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up."

"If music be the food of love, play on. Give me excess of that."
William Shakespeare, "Twelfth Night"

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Jul 9, 2002, 9:59:34 PM7/9/02
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Mike, Bubee, hok a tchynik.
Steve

Tony Whetstone

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Jul 10, 2002, 12:47:02 AM7/10/02
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Didn't see David Bromberg mentioned. I think he's semi-retired and making
violins now but what a great acoustic guitarist, both flatpicking and
fingerpicking.

Tony Whetstone
http://www.mp3.com/swordfish

Fred Dabney

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Jul 10, 2002, 1:24:02 AM7/10/02
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> What about our own blues-l member BARRY LEVENSON? I'm
> sure he has an opinion on the subject.

We have another fine one on the list: Ann Rabson is Jewish,
isn't she? I saw something about that in some jacket notes
for a Saffire cd.

And I realized I have a friend who's a Jewish blues musician.
He's local but he used to live in Austin, I think. His name
is "Mojo" Mark Schwartz. He and his wife Tina sometimes
do a duo, but mostly he is part of a group with Pat Dutton
on harp and Bill Bussman on bass. They work around
the area quite a bit, although he's an electrical engineer
by day.

Fred D.

Barry Levenson

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Jul 10, 2002, 2:04:25 AM7/10/02
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Speaking of Jewish blues musicians, I think this is a pretty funny story:

when I first moved to Los Angeles, I did a bunch of gigs with Lowell Fulson
and Percy Mayfield. Kenny "Blue" Ray was on the gigs, and so was Finis
Tasby. The first night we met Lowell on the gig for the first time. We
opened with an instrumental and then Lowell came out. He whispered in my
ear, "You must be a Jew boy, only Jew boys play like that, except maybe an
Eye-talian." I thought that was a crackup.

BTW, did anyone mention Al Kooper, nee Kooperman?

Barry

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Jim EcklundBlues

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Jul 10, 2002, 4:09:46 AM7/10/02
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Did anyone mention...
Popa Chubby (Ted Horowitz)
Johnny Childs (Yonah Krohn)
Bruce Braumberg (President, Hightone Records)

Salty Dog

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>From: Fred Dabney <fda...@nmsu.edu>

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>Subject: Re: Jewish blues greats?
>

>And I realized I have a friend who's a Jewish blues musician.


>He's local but he used to live in Austin, I think.

We've got this guy in Texas, Kinky Friedman, who is more of a musical
humorist than a blues musician. Some of his more notorious titles include
"They Don't Make Jews Like Jesus Anymore", "Ride 'Em Jewboy" and "Asshole
From El Paso". A lot of people think he's great but I never understood him.
He also writes detective vovels which sell very well indeed.

Salty
Make mine blues, por favor

Steve Levine

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bluesmy...@yahoo.com (Jerry Rose) wrote in message news:<2002070908250...@web20417.mail.yahoo.com>...

> TO List:
> I'm doing research for an article.
> Can you think of any noteworthy Jewish blues talent,
> besides Mark Nofler?

Annie Raines
Jerry Portnoy
Bob Margolin

and, some I'm not sure of but I think are Jewish:

Mark Wenner
Magic Dick
Rick Estrin

-Steve

Tony Whetstone

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Jul 10, 2002, 11:05:03 AM7/10/02
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Bernie Pearl is a great blues teacher as well as blues guitarist. On one of
his duet CDs with Harmonica Fats there is a beautiful instrumental prayer
called "Blues Kaddish".

harrydukbutz

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Jul 10, 2002, 12:21:16 PM7/10/02
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All right !!!! Sounds like you met my mother.

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harrydukbutz

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Jul 10, 2002, 12:27:58 PM7/10/02
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You should hear this crazy little ditty that a friend sings to me on a
daily basis ( Ugh !!!! ). Its called " I'm Proud To Be a Hillbilly Jew ".


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> Date: 7/10/02 5:05:57 AM


> Subject: Re: Jewish blues greats?
>

> >From: Fred Dabney <fda...@nmsu.edu>
> >To: BLU...@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU

> >Subject: Re: Jewish blues greats?
> >
>

> >And I realized I have a friend who's a Jewish blues musician.
> >He's local but he used to live in Austin, I think.
>
> We've got this guy in Texas, Kinky Friedman, who is more of a musical
> humorist than a blues musician. Some of his more notorious titles include
> "They Don't Make Jews Like Jesus Anymore", "Ride 'Em Jewboy" and "Asshole
> From El Paso". A lot of people think he's great but I never understood
him.
> He also writes detective vovels which sell very well indeed.
>
> Salty
> Make mine blues, por favor
>
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Joel Fritz

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I was once in a jug band where four of us were Jewish--well... I'm actually
a half breed. Two of them had the same last name. One played the piano and
the other the guitar. They refused to take the (stage) nicknames "White
Keys" and "Jewboy" or be called brothers. They even had the temerity to get
mad at me when I suggested it. <g>


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Blue Stew

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The GREATEST blues Jew of all time IMO BRUCE KATZ.

Debra Lubin

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I can't believe I forgot about Bruce! Keeping with the same instrument, Mitch Woods. Did someone mention Hollywood Fats earlier?

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In a message dated 7/10/2 10:19:04 PM, debl...@msn.com writes:

<< Did someone mention Hollywood Fats earlier? >>

Michael Mannkowitz?

Chris Burger

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Jul 11, 2002, 10:16:27 AM7/11/02
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On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:27:39 -0700, Blue Stew <ma...@bluestew.com> wrote:

>The GREATEST blues Jew of all time IMO BRUCE KATZ.

Really, 'Stew? I know he's talented (even if some-not me- have said he's
note-happy), but "greatest Blues Jew" EVER? He's got real some heavy
competition on this list, you know.

Maybe Katz is among the best on keyboards, but then maybe David Maxwell
might qualify to give him a run for the title, too.

-C.Burger

Blue Stew

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Jul 11, 2002, 11:25:46 AM7/11/02
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Well Chris to be honest, it was in yesterdays post that I said "The GREATEST
blues Jew of all time IMO BRUCE KATZ". Now...like a woman, I reserve the
right to change my mind at any time. Like a fisherman...I've been known to
exagerate a bit. And...like a politician, Ive got an answer for everything.
Mike M.
PS, still, Bruce Katz is a bad muthu...
PPS, Fred Kaplan is another real good blues piano playin' Jew (he was in the
orig Hollywood Fats band) but he doesn't compare to Katz imo.

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Jef Jaisun

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On 9 Jul 2002 12:40:50 -0700, bl...@email.msn.com (Barry Pickell)
wrote:

> (Isn't 'Zeller" a Jewish name)

Do you mean the great pioneer of Golf Coast Blues, Fuzzy 'Zeller? :)

Jef Jaisun

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On 9 Jul 2002 11:26:21 -0700, harryd...@earthlink.net
(harrydukbutz) wrote:

>Here are a couple of favourites. Peter Green and Mike Bloomfield. Arlen
>Roth comes to mind. Jack Lord ( oops ! Yes Jack Lord is Jewish :-) ).
>"Ramblin'" Jack Elliot.

Ramblin' Jack Elliot??

How about David Bromberg and New Orleans guitarist Marc Stone.

Buddy Fox

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Jul 12, 2002, 11:39:51 AM7/12/02
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Ah! Bruce Katz, Dave Maxwell, Dave Keyes and the greaest of them all George
Gershwin/Oscar Levant doing a 2 keyboard version of "Rhapsody In Blue(s)"
Buddy

Buddy Fox

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Jul 12, 2002, 1:51:52 PM7/12/02
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No! Just a fantasy. Levant is rightly considered the greatest interperator of
the works of his close friend Gershwin.
Buddy

harrydukbutz

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Jul 12, 2002, 2:06:59 PM7/12/02
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Yes. Ramblin' Jack is Jewish. There is a documentary based on his life.
I've watched the film several times. Its called " The Ballad of Ramblin'
Jack Elliot". I will pass on to you his surname to you, once I remember
it. I'm having a "senior moment" at the present time ( LOL ). It was
nominated " Best documentary " @ The Sundance Film Festival ( '97 or '98 ).
If you do not know much about "Ramblin' Jack", you will be quite
enlightened by this film. Ihave watched it several times in a week. So,
he qualifies as a true " Jewish Blues Great ". I think you will understand
more so when you check out his life history. There is some true substance
to his character and personality. He does not need a website to prove who
he is. And he does not need to stake claim to "being there" when the music
was hot - he was there. Check it out ! There are a few issues of
relevancy that "Ramblin' Jack" dlscloses about another "Jewish Blues
Great". I give the documentary an " All Thumbs Up !!!!" recommendation.
Because I'm all thumbs ( LOL )


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Jef Jaisun

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Jul 12, 2002, 2:20:42 PM7/12/02
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HAH! Well, I've known RJ for years. Once took him on a tour of the Seattle
Kenworth plant where my brother-in-law worked, and Jack still talks about.
He parked the motor home at my place 10 years ago when he was in town, but
never commented on my gefilte fish or matzoh ball soup. :)

"Young Brigham," indeed! Maybe Jack just liked the idea of polygamy. LOL!

Jef

P.S. "The Ballad of Ramblin' Jack" won Special Jury Prize for Artistic
Achievement, 2000 Sundance Film Festival.

harrydukbutz

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Thank you for the correction on the year that film won the award @ Sundance.


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harrydukbutz

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Jul 12, 2002, 2:40:10 PM7/12/02
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Is "Young Brigham" still in print ?

Katc...@aol.com

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Jul 12, 2002, 3:45:43 PM7/12/02
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In a message dated 7/10/02 12:26:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

harryd...@earthlink.net writes:
> You should hear this crazy little ditty that a friend sings to me on a
> daily basis ( Ugh !!!! ). Its called " I'm Proud To Be a Hillbilly Jew ".
>
>

I'd love to hear that song. I dated a West Virginia Jewish lady for a few
years, though she preferred to be called a Mountain Jew, LOL.

Also, Jews have always associated themselves with less than popular art forms
that at the time were considered dirty businesses - we saw opportunity. Back
when Jazz was music played only in whorehouses and at the beginnings of the
film industry (it wasn't legitimate theayter) Jews were involved as
performers, managers, etc. And if you want to hear some real blues listen to
some of the music that came out of the ghettos of Eastern Europe in the
middle ages back when we were getting beat up daily in pogroms and whatnot.
:-)

Alan R.

chuck n.

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Jul 12, 2002, 6:48:39 PM7/12/02
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Though I am not sure if he'd qualify as
"great" here in this group, THORNEL SCHWARTZ played some nice
bluesy-meets-jazzy stuff on occasion (w/ the likes of Larry Young,
Jimmy Smith, and others). chuck

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Jul 14, 2002, 10:14:03 PM7/14/02
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Has anyone mentioned the great DR John !
At least I think he's Jewish ,And what about the late great Doc Pomus
?

Also didn't Moses sing some Blues at the Wailing Wall ? or was was
that at the Burning bush ?

Ralph King

harrydukbutz

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Doc Poomus was Jewish, but I can't verify if Dr. John is Jewish. With a
name such as Rebbenack; it is possible. I think Moses sang the blues @ the
Burning Spear ( circa 1969 ) on 87th & Stony Island ( Chicago ). HD

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In a message dated 7/17/02 4:05:52 PM, harryd...@earthlink.net writes:

>Doc Poomus was Jewish, but I can't verify if Dr. John is Jewish. With a
>name such as Rebbenack; it is possible. I think Moses sang the blues @ the
>Burning Spear ( circa 1969 ) on 87th & Stony Island ( Chicago ). HD

Doc Pomus' real name was Jerome Felder. He was the brother of the famous
divorce lawyer Raoul Felder. He invented the name "Doc Pomus" simply because
he liked the way that it sounded.

Dick Waterman
Oxford, MS

View my blues T-shirts at:
http://p-dub.com/Jinx/photo_t.htm

Ralph King

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Here is a great Link to Doc Pomus and Mort Shuman AKA
Mort Schulman two incredible Jews !!

Ralph Kingmin ( Proud to be a Jewish King ! )


http://www.history-of-rock.com/doc_pomus_and_mort_shulman.htm
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I was of the opinion that MALCOM(Mac) Rebenack was of Scotish descent, but
perhaps that is only because of his real first name.
Buddy

Ron Weinstock

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In a message dated 7/23/02 6:07:53 PM, harryd...@earthlink.net writes:

<< know this posting is bit old, but I will submit, for the record, Daniel
Pearl. Now, who wants argue with that entry ? From what i understand that
besides being a writer for the Wall Street Journal, he enjoyed sitting in
at local jam sessions in the DC area. I would've loved to hear to have had
an opportunity to him perform a traditional Irish reel " Red Hair Boy". As
a journalist, husband,musician, and Jewish / American. I highly doubt that
most of that ego bolstering that was going on with this posting will agree
with this, but as far as I am concerned Daniel Pearl is a "Jewish Blues
Great". My posting may not be kosher to some, but you cannot please
everybody. >>

he played bluegrass not blues

Blue Stew

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Nope you are wrong Harry. The correct answer is NOT Daniel Pearl, Try
again. Mike M.
PS, I DEMAND THAT THE LIST OWNERS INTERVENE AND SEVERELY DISCIPLINE THOSE
THAT DARE TO DISAGREE WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I know this posting is bit old, but I will submit, for the record, Daniel


Pearl. Now, who wants argue with that entry ? From what i understand that
besides being a writer for the Wall Street Journal, he enjoyed sitting in
at local jam sessions in the DC area. I would've loved to hear to have had
an opportunity to him perform a traditional Irish reel " Red Hair Boy". As
a journalist, husband,musician, and Jewish / American. I highly doubt that
most of that ego bolstering that was going on with this posting will agree
with this, but as far as I am concerned Daniel Pearl is a "Jewish Blues
Great". My posting may not be kosher to some, but you cannot please
everybody.

> [Original Message]
> From: Blue Stew <ma...@BLUESTEW.COM>
> To: <BLU...@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU>

> Date: 7/10/02 6:27:39 PM


> Subject: Re: Jewish blues greats?
>

> The GREATEST blues Jew of all time IMO BRUCE KATZ.

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