Ebo Walker -- Cop Killer Only a smidgen of BG content
Jeff Haynes
>>Anybody miss Ebo Walker?
>It's hard to actually miss someone who's serving a life prison sentence
for
>killing a police officer.
>Mark
As a former law enforcement officer, I am very interested in the details
of this story. Please expound.
jeff haynes
"I planted some bird seed. A bird came up. Now I don't know what to
feed it."
--Steven Wright
Bo McCarty "THE BO-MAN"
The details of that story are skechy at best. I've heard a lot of
rumors on what may have happened. The majority seen to be that Ebo was
defending is "crop" from the police.
Others include being setup, taking the fall for $, etc.
The last I heard was Ebo is up for parole this year or next year. Ebo
has been in a battle with cancer the past year or so and most folks
think he'll never make it to the parole hearing.
Bo McCarty, "THE BO-MAN" http://www.wwd.net/user/boman
"BLUEGRASS, Pick it up!"
When business starts to interfere with bluegrass,
it's time to quit the business.
Jeff Wall
At 10:31 AM 11/23/97 -0500, Bo wrote:
>The last I heard was Ebo is up for parole this year or next year. Ebo
>has been in a battle with cancer the past year or so and most folks
>think he'll never make it to the parole hearing.
Well, I ain't got no idea what happened. I got a buncha cops in the
family, but I got no opinion on this one. I don't know the facts. But I do
know a little bit about Cancer. I got a bunch of that in my family too. I'm
gonna add Ebo to my list of folks who might need just a little bit extra
attention from Mr Jesus or whoever's been delegated to runnin' things uup
there.
Also, Please remember Mr Johnny Cash in yer prayers.
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James Thompson
Bo McCarty "THE BO-MAN" wrote:
>
> The details of that story are skechy at best. I've heard a lot of
> rumors on what may have happened. The majority seen to be that Ebo was
> defending is "crop" from the police.
>
> Others include being setup, taking the fall for $, etc.
>
> has been in a battle with cancer the past year or so and most folks
> think he'll never make it to the parole hearing.
>
> "BLUEGRASS, Pick it up!"
> When business starts to interfere with bluegrass,
> it's time to quit the business.
"crop".
Jim Thompson
Jeff Wall
At 02:51 PM 11/23/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Bo McCarty "THE BO-MAN" wrote:
>>
>> The details of that story are skechy at best. I've heard a lot of
>> rumors on what may have happened. The majority seen to be that Ebo was
>> defending is "crop" from the police.
>
>"crop".
>Jim Thompson
The "crop" would most likely be marijuana. Marijuana has become the Number
1 cash crop of the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
And speaking of KENTUCKY....How about them Vols!!! Woo hoo!1
James Thompson
what "crop" was.
HOWBOUT THEM VOLS!!!! #3 with a bullet.
Jim Thompson
Bangs Tapscott
Circumstances alter cases. There are cop-killers and there
are COP-KILLERS. In the American mythos, there's still a lot
of sympathy for the moonshiners who had to shoot it out with
the Revenooers. I personally don't see a lot of difference between
that and the pot-farmers shooting it out with the Narks. Note that
I'm not (now) taking sides on this issue-- only pointing out an
important parallel. Is Ebo Walker like John Dillinger, or is he
like Snuffy Smith?
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Abigail Adams
Who is Ebo Walker - What prison is he in?
Mark R. Sukoenig, O.D.
>Who is Ebo Walker - What prison is he in?
I first heard the name "Ebo Walker" in a Dillards song.
I second heard it <g> when I met Harry Sheeler (spelling?) with the New
Grass Revival in about '71 or '72. That's when NGR was Sam Bush, Curtis
Burch, Courtney Johnson (rip), and Ebo Walker. I'll NEVER forget telling Sam
"you guys ought to plug in and amplify your music". And Sam replied "I'll
NEVER plug in my instruments!!!"
Mark R. Sukoenig, OD, PC
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Chris Athey
In a message dated 97-11-23 11:55:43 EST, you write:
> The last I heard was Ebo is up for parole this year or next year. Ebo
> >has been in a battle with cancer the past year or so and most folks
> >think he'll never make it to the parole hearing.
>
> Well, I ain't got no idea what happened. I got a buncha cops in the
> family, but I got no opinion on this one. I don't know the facts. But I do
> know a little bit about Cancer. I got a bunch of that in my family too.
I'm
> gonna add Ebo to my list of folks who might need just a little bit extra
> attention from Mr Jesus or whoever's been delegated to runnin' things uup
> there.
As a working law enforcement officer I'll add my two cents. First, I don't
even know who Ebo Walker is. Second, I hope he *doesn't* make it to his
parole hearing.
How in the world can someone who killed a police officer even be allowed out
of prison? If anyone wishes to argue this point - just remember that someone
who will kill a cop will kill a civilian much, much quicker. And please
respond off list as I've gotten way off BG here.
Chris
Paul Birch
On 24 Nov 97 , Mark R. Sukoenig, O.D. wrote:
> I first heard the name "Ebo Walker" in a Dillards song.
>
> I second heard it <g> when I met Harry Sheeler (spelling?) with the New
> Grass Revival in about '71 or '72. That's when NGR was Sam Bush, Curtis
> Burch, Courtney Johnson (rip), and Ebo Walker. I'll NEVER forget telling Sam
> "you guys ought to plug in and amplify your music". And Sam replied "I'll
> NEVER plug in my instruments!!!"
The mystery surrounding the name has been mentioned here a while
back: supposedly, the name "Ebo Walker" came from an earlier band
in which Harry Shelor (again, sp?, but I think this is it) played a
Gibson model EBO elec. bass. "Walker" referred supposedly to the
walking style of bass playing. I seem to recall that everybody
claims no connection between the Dillards song and the nickname. But
I wonder..
BTW, I think Ebo switched a lot between upright and electric bass in
that original edition of NGR. Am I right?
Paul Birch
Archie Warnock
Paul Birch wrote:
> walking style of bass playing. I seem to recall that everybody
> claims no connection between the Dillards song and the nickname. But
> I wonder..
Interestingly (or maybe not...), Mitch Jayne reused the name at least
once more. I just finished listening to his recorded story "Old
Fishhawk", in which the main character's dog is named "Ebo".
A fine story (on 4 cassettes), and a wonderful opportunity to hear one
of the great storytellers ever.
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Bangs Tapscott
mike Fleming HE say:
>> Is Ebo Walker like John Dillinger, or is he
>> like Snuffy Smith?
>
>A better question would be, Is the cop still dead?
>Unfortunately the answer is "Yes".
>
>A Certified Peace Officer,
>MMF
and then Chris Athey HE say:
>As a working law enforcement officer I'll add my two cents.
>First, I don't even know who Ebo Walker is. Second, I hope he
>*doesn't* make it to his parole hearing.
>
>How in the world can someone who killed a police officer even
>be allowed out of prison? If anyone wishes to argue this point
>- just remember that someone who will kill a cop will kill a
>civilian much, much quicker. And please respond off list as
>I've gotten way off BG here.
I'm unclear as to why the life (or death) of a law enforcement
agent is of greater moment than the life (or death) of a civilian.
Also, it's interesting that our two friends are able to arrive
at such sweeping conclusions on the basis of such meager
information. "dead law enforcement agent" = "cop-killer" =
"draw & quarter the sumbidge". Yeah, right.
A couple of years back there was an extensive discussion of
the Ebo Walker case on this here list. Memory of all the
details is hazy (CRS at work), but I seem to recall that (a)
it had something to do with protecting a marijuana patch, (b)
there were unresolved questions about the nature, and actions,
of the decedent "law enforcement agent", and (c) there was
reason to suppose that Walker, though guilty of something, was
not guilty of the homicide for which he was convicted.
This law enforcement agent...was he a police officer? Or a
BATF agent? Or an IRS agent? Or a certified weekend Sheriff's
Posse member, out playing cop? Was he in uniform? Or was he
in civvies (or camos), skulking through the woods with a gun
in his hand? (Hey, a thug out to steal your marijuana crop can
holler "POLICE! DON'T MOVE!" just as easily as a policeman
can.) Did he satisfactorily establish his identity as a law
enforcement agent? Who fired first, the law enforcement agent
or the perp? (A miscreant who would never make the first move,
would often shoot back trying to avoid being killed.) All of
these are considerations relevant to determining the severity
of the offense of which Walker was convicted (leaving aside
the question of whether he actually did it). "Dead law
enforcement officer" ignores them all.
Getting back to the Snuffy Smith analogy, let's take a closer
look at the claim that "someone who will kill a cop will kill
a civilian much, much quicker." First of all, there's no
reason to suppose that's true, even if we're just talking
about street crime. Plenty of street criminals have an
abiding hatred of cops, and would kill one much more quickly
than they would a civilian. Second of all, among a lot of
folks within a certain culture, making whiskey is an honest
and honorable profession that the government has no business
interfering with. (<--bg content.) A moonshiner who would
never dream of harming his neighbors, would readily shoot it
out with raiding IRS agents ("revenooers") out to destroy his
livelihood. And there are many who would put the growing of
marijuana, a non-addictive intoxicant, in the same category
with the making of whiskey. Circumstances, as I said, alter
cases.
Consider a couple of hypothetical cases. A guy sneaks up on
the proprietor of a marijuana patch, flashes a badge, points
a gun, and hollers "POLICE! YOU'RE BUSTED!" In the ensuing
shoot-out the guy is killed. Case #1: The guy was a law
enforcement agent, engaged in the pursuit of his duties.
Case #2: The guy was a thug with a fake badge, out to steal
the marijuana crop. Should the person who killed the guy
in case 1 receive a heavier punishment than the one in case 2?
Tell me why.
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D J Anderson
Someone said:
>In the American mythos, there's still a lot
> of sympathy for the moonshiners who had to shoot it out with
> like Snuffy Smith?
Wilkes County, NC was once the "Moonshine Capital of the USA" and when I
was a lad there were fifty-two ATU 'revenooers' with two airplanes when
Wilkesboro had one policeman. The Federal Judge came bi-weekly, for a
time there, with a bus to haul away the poor boys from the western part
of the county who ran non-tax paid whiskey.
So with so many men jailed and so many stills busted, I don't know of a
single ATU officer who was shot. Wrestle and run, for sure, but those
mountain boys wouldn't kill a man doing his announced job no more than
the federals would'a shot a man without deadly cause.
Like Deliverance labels bluegrass unfairly, to make Snuffy real or Ebo
right to kill for crops, if he did, is wronging all those who broke the
rule of breaking tax laws but didn't, and wouldn't murder.
dj of raleigh
D J Anderson
Bangs Tapscott wrote in part:
>... I'm unclear as to why the life (or death) of a law enforcement
> agent is of greater moment than the life (or death) of a civilian...
I think it more grave that a law officer die in the line of duty
than a civilian in general. The law officer is doing my, or society's
"dirty" work and putting the life on line for us all. If I get shot in
my neighbor's bedroom, well, that is divorced from society at large.
When a fire fighter dies, or a rescue worker, I see it as sacrifice for
us all.
Now, when my dog bites the mailman, or femaleman, I feel worse than if
the mutt bites the salesperson who wasn't there at my bidding.
As for the bluegrass content, it seems to me that bluegrass music has
had no serial killers, no spouse killers, no plane crash deaths, no
crowd crushing injuries, no stalking or other big time crime scandals.
Bluegrassers, if we lose it, seem more prone to hurt ourselves with self
abuse of some sort. We are a pretty harmless lot.
dj of raleigh
Jeff Haynes
Mike Fleming asked of Bangs:
> Funny how you assume everybody's an idiot
> but you. What do you suppose that is a sign of?
Opinionated ignorance
Lane Gray
In a message dated 97-11-26 01:15:10 EST, omeg...@mail.rdu.bellsouth.net
writes:
<< As for the bluegrass content, it seems to me that bluegrass music has
had no serial killers, no spouse killers, no plane crash deaths, no
crowd crushing injuries, no stalking or other big time crime scandals. >>
spouse killers; Eli Renfro, Knoxville Girl, Banks of the Ohio, and more
Plane Crashes; Amelia Earhart (the Country Gentlemen), maybe some others
Crowd crushing injuries; The Schoolhouse Fire, the Galveston Flood, I'm Sure
there are others
the other crimes, I could make a search, but I'm sure someone out ther could
either find one or write one. Or maybe do a bluegrass version of Pinkard and
Bowden's
" Ballad of Jeffrey Dahmer (I've Got Friends in Crawlspaces)"