Linux to Vines
Glenn Wiseman
We have a PC that WILL have Linux installed on it. Using a cron on the Linux
machine we will FTP to another PC on the internet and copy a file every 30
minutes. The cron will only copy one file and erase the current file in the
incoming directory, so that at ANY one time, there is only 1 file in the
incoming directory.
Now.... I need to copy this file to Vines File Service.
How should I go about this?
1) Should I/Can I, setup the Linux PC as a Vines client? Then all I have to
do is simply copy the file to the Vines File Service. If this is the
solution, does anybody have any tips/pointers on how to set this up. I'm not
very Unix proficient, so please, lamens terms.....
2) If I can't setup the Linux PC up as a Vines client, I can FTP from a DOS
Vines client to the Linux machine and copy the file. Only problem here is
the file is coming EVERY THIRTY minutes! That's a lot of manual work! I
guess I could "pipe" commands into the FTP program (whatever FTP program that
might be....), but that just seems a little sloppy.
Any other ideas? Will either of these work?
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for Linux which allows it to run SCO
binaries. therefore, you should be able to run ENS for SCO under Linux,
although I don't have a system to test this on.
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From Edward Lopez <ELo...@LAB4.WORLDBANK.ORG>, on 1/17/95 9:57 AM:
To: Multiple recipients of list BANYAN-L BANY...@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
Glenn,
In terms of automation, I would suggest enabling your Linux PC's NFS server
capabilities, and then you can mount the Linux volume as a VINES file
service via Incognito's VINES to NFS software. In this way a second
copying of the file is not necessary.
If your client's TCP/IP stacks support NFS, you can cut out the Incognito
middleman, but I usually avoid those multi-network drivers like the plague.
You can of course setup your cron on any ENS for Unix product (maybe
someday we'll see an ENS for Linux), if you have one available.
These are some ideas.
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It could be an easy and cheaper way to run ENS without having to buy SCO
(I think Linux is more friendly anyways).
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From Jon Freivald <j...@JAFLRN.LIII.COM>, on 1/17/95 10:52 AM:
To: Multiple recipients of list BANYAN-L BANY...@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
> ENS for Linux may never be needed. There is a kernel addon you can get
> for Linux which allows it to run SCO
> binaries. therefore, you should be able to run ENS for SCO under Linux,
> although I don't have a system to test this on.
If anyone's got a "spare" copy of ENS they want to try this out with,
I've got both a Linux machine and a Banyan server at the house that
I'm not afraid to crash... :)
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OnNET 1.1 Vxd has a Vxd based NFS "Services OnNET" server addon which
should give server support. I will try this out in a couple of days
and let you know.
I have Linux 1.1.72 loaded but I have never heard of ENS(??) for SCO.
Anyone ??
>
> >Glenn,
>
> >In terms of automation, I would suggest enabling your Linux PC's NFS server
> >capabilities, and then you can mount the Linux volume as a VINES file
> >service via Incognito's VINES to NFS software. In this way a second
> >copying of the file is not necessary.
>
> I'll give that a try. I don't have Incognito's VINES to NFS..... Any ideas
> how much that costs?
>
> >If your client's TCP/IP stacks support NFS, you can cut out the Incognito
> >middleman, but I usually avoid those multi-network drivers like the plague.
>
> FTP Inc.'s. I don't think it has NFS support? Anybody know differently?
>
> >You can of course setup your cron on any ENS for Unix product (maybe
> >someday we'll see an ENS for Linux), if you have one available.
>
> I don't but thanks for the thought. :)
>
> >These are some ideas.
>
> Thanks for help Ed & Erwin.....
>
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Nik W.
: Ok... Here's the scenario.
: We have a PC that WILL have Linux installed on it. Using a cron on the Linux
: machine we will FTP to another PC on the internet and copy a file every 30
: minutes. The cron will only copy one file and erase the current file in the
: incoming directory, so that at ANY one time, there is only 1 file in the
: incoming directory.
: Now.... I need to copy this file to Vines File Service.
: How should I go about this?
: 1) Should I/Can I, setup the Linux PC as a Vines client? Then all I have to
: do is simply copy the file to the Vines File Service. If this is the
: solution, does anybody have any tips/pointers on how to set this up. I'm not
: very Unix proficient, so please, lamens terms.....
: 2) If I can't setup the Linux PC up as a Vines client, I can FTP from a DOS
: Vines client to the Linux machine and copy the file. Only problem here is
: the file is coming EVERY THIRTY minutes! That's a lot of manual work! I
: guess I could "pipe" commands into the FTP program (whatever FTP program that
: might be....), but that just seems a little sloppy.
: Any other ideas? Will either of these work?
well, you can run vines under the linux dos emulator, so you could do it
this way: after cron copies the file, have it start the dos emulator.
set up you autoexec.bat so it logs you in, copies the file, and then
exits the emulator. (this is a bit cheaper than $2000 for the software
someone else mentioned.) or you could keep the dos emulator running all
the time, and just have it do the copy every half hour, a few minutes after
the first copy.
cheers
nik
Kathy Kessey
>I'll give that a try. I don't have Incognito's VINES to NFS..... Any ideas
>how much that costs?
You can download a demo copy from ftp.incognito.com or from their bbs - 604-688-
7505. Cost is $1995.
This one (Vines to NFS) works great, but has anyone gotten NFS for Vines to work
for a vines file service?
All their ads say you can, but their documentation only shows how to do it for t
he dos to unix bridge on the
server the service is on. ???
Tooraj Enayati
and you have FTP's PCTCP, you can have the PC to login and do setdrive
to the vines disk service you want and then run FTP's FTPSVR.EXE (or any
other ftp server that you can get your hands on). From your Linux box
you can then do ftp to the PC and change drive to where you setdrive
and copy the file. Not as neat as doing NFS but a simple way
around the problem.
Glenn Wiseman <GWis...@OKTUL.ANG.AF.MIL> writes:
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> Erwin,
>
> We think alike!
>
> Scary, huh....
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>
> >In terms of automation, I would suggest enabling your Linux PC's NFS server
> >capabilities, and then you can mount the Linux volume as a VINES file
> >service via Incognito's VINES to NFS software. In this way a second
> >copying of the file is not necessary.
>
> how much that costs?
>
> >middleman, but I usually avoid those multi-network drivers like the plague.
>
> FTP Inc.'s. I don't think it has NFS support? Anybody know differently?
>
It has! I use it often and it works great for us.
Edward Lopez
Let us know if this works. My impression is that it won't, for the reason
being that your network interface card has already had the Linux TCP/IP
driver loaded onto it, thus I suspect a failure when loading the VINES
driver.
I suppose it would be possible to use the Asynchronous Communications
driver and a null modem to log in via an ICA port on one of your VINES
servers, but you would be limited to 19.2K. I don't know the size of the
file you are downloading, but based on the frequency of your downloads,
this would not work for files of significant size.
Good Luck!
Ignacio Martinez
>
> ...
>
> well, you can run vines under the linux dos emulator, so you could do it
> this way: after cron copies the file, have it start the dos emulator.
> set up you autoexec.bat so it logs you in, copies the file, and then
> exits the emulator. (this is a bit cheaper than $2000 for the software
> someone else mentioned.) or you could keep the dos emulator running all
> the time, and just have it do the copy every half hour, a few minutes after
> the first copy.
>
Or are you just guessing this is possible?
If you already got it running, would you please send details on
how to setup 'dosemu.conf' for ems, ports or whatever is needed
to get the thing running?
I always get the message 'Controller not found'
when I run INTR2BAN
Any hints appreciated.
Regards. Ignacio
Nik W.
: ni...@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Nik W.) wrote:
: >
: > ...
: >
: > well, you can run vines under the linux dos emulator, so you could do it
: > this way: after cron copies the file, have it start the dos emulator.
: > set up you autoexec.bat so it logs you in, copies the file, and then
: > exits the emulator. (this is a bit cheaper than $2000 for the software
: > someone else mentioned.) or you could keep the dos emulator running all
: > the time, and just have it do the copy every half hour, a few minutes after
: > the first copy.
: >
: Have you had any practical experience in loading Vines under dosemu?
: Or are you just guessing this is possible?
: If you already got it running, would you please send details on
: how to setup 'dosemu.conf' for ems, ports or whatever is needed
: to get the thing running?
i've been running it for a few months now. i am actually writing a section
for the dosemu HOWTO about Vines. i will post it when i am done, which
will hopefully be tomorrow.
: I always get the message 'Controller not found'
: when I run INTR2BAN
in my experience with vines 4.10 and 5.5, i have never heard of INTR2BAN.
what does it do, and what version of Vines do you have?
: Any hints appreciated.
: Regards. Ignacio
nik
@maw-2d-emh1.cpy.usmc.mil Ben Whittaker
I am using an SMC NIC.
THANK YOU
I want to use LINUX at work
BEN WHITTAKER
Jack N. Gallemore
>> not to ask a dumb Question but were do I get the Cabletron Packet Driver ?
>
>That's part of the beauty of it -- you don't! Dosemu provides the API
>without actually loading any packet drivers...
>
>> I am using an SMC NIC.
>
>Does Linux recognize this NIC? (I don't have my HARDWARE-HOWTO
>handy.) As long as it does (i.e., you can assign it to "eth0", Dosemu
>will use it.
>
>> THANK YOU
>
>You're welcome.
>
>> I want to use LINUX at work
>
>So do I -- unfortunately, we're all Windoze based now -- c'mon WINE!!!
SMC is a WD8000 clone (8003 I believe)
Jack
Edward Lopez
I stand humbly corrected. This VINES client on Linux stuff actually does
work.
Thank you for the tips.