Medicaid, Medicare, SSI
Michael Yared
or job or career. Many of my deaf friends are complaining that Medicaid
and Medicare take too much of our paychecks maybe because there are more
elderly people now. But the fact that there are more unemployed people
with disabilities than before the ADA since 1992 as show by the National
Council on Disability, President's Committee for the Employment of People
with Disabilities showed that more disabled people are interested int he fat
government entitlements check rather than work and pay taxes. If one person
want to keep getting those checks and plus work, then the salary will
be double say 20,000 a year plus another 20,000 of checks, that would be
overprice. The GOP attacked on those tax-supported checks show that
people who are poor are vulnerable. What about those rich people with
disabilities? They worked hard without assistance.
I always get flamed by those who get those assistance EXCEPT THEY
DID NOT MENTIONED THEY DO NOT WORK.
I feel like this listserv is somewhat a "PC" list since it seems
some people can't stand that people with disabilities can criticize
other people with disabilities.
GO ADA
MIKE YARED
Rev. Jim Sutter
about ? Mike Yared's post talks about the "fat, government entitlement
checks". WHERE ? How do I get these ? I get $335/month from SSDI, when
my doctors pulled me from my $29,000/yr job in 1990 I was doing a whole lot
better ! I would give my left leg to work again ! As it is, I spend many
hours per week on volunteer work, acting as chaplain for a local nursing
home, a local hospital and a local prison. I turned down the pay I was
offered for the hospital position (Note THAT, Mr. Yared) because I believe
that God has called me to ministry, and I won't take a paycheck from God.
I have noted that Mr. Yared tends to have some unusual opinions, but remember
everyone is entitled to their opinions. That's one of the basic human rights
that we expect, * along * with the ADA, the Rehab Act, etc. And, please don't
flame me for defending Mike, I'm not defending him, I'm defending his right
to express his opinion.
Rev Jim
:
Mike Salvas
>> I always get flamed by those who get those assistance EXCEPT THEY
>>DID NOT MENTIONED THEY DO NOT WORK.
>
>
You know, you're right! I may not be able to work, but at least I'm not as
brain dead as some of those who can!
Mike Salvas
>Just as a general sort of suggestion, maybe when folks here want to put
forth
>a point of view on PWD's receiving Medicare, SSDI, or a PWD point of view,
>they should state whether they are a PWD or just someone who is interested
in
>the issues.
Exactly the point. If he would have made his statement in that light I would
have had nothing to say. I do not enjoy being disabled, and lord knows I did
not ask to be like this.
I worked hard all my life, becoming disabled was why I joined this list. It
had nothing to do with lawyers being here to get free help for my personal
problems.
It's people like (him), I don't even know who it was, that think were here
for some kind of a free ride. I would gladly trade places with him, would he
for me?
BTW, I had a Thorasic Spinal Cord Tumor removed from my spine just over two
years ago. Left me with just enough strength to keep me out of a chair, lack
of sensation below the waist, and riddled with pain on my upper right side of
my body. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy ( not even for five minutes).
Not even the guy I flammed!
For the most part I've been a lurker on this list. Maybe once or twice I've
asked for help, explaining my situation first. And the help I asked came
forthwith. I was not tring to freeload!
When I saw that post, I got urked. Why, because it came from people who
wouldn't give us the time of day. It reaked FREELOADER, and I felt a need to
speak up for the people on this list who can't work and have paid a dear
price for what help we get here!
Pay the price, get the advice. If you don't fall into that catagory. Then try
to use the advice of our Mentor, REV JIM.
Sorry for any toes I've stepped on whether you belong to this list or not.
Mike
M74...@AOL.COM
Michael Yared
I am deaf. I am deaf with understanble speech. I am a deaf person who rejected
the oral life to become a sign language deaf person. Sometimes, I feel alone
on the ADA-LAW listserv because some people here want to protect the rights
of people who are least severely disabled than I am.
YOUR STATEMENT THAT A PWD WITH A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW CANNOT
PUT HIS VIEW ON ANYWHERE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY ARE A PWD OR JUST
SOMEONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE ISSUES MAKE ME SICK IN THE STOMACH AND IT
IS DISGUSTING.
OH, ARE DEAF PEOPLE DISABLED IN YOUR VIEW? PROBABLY NOT.
LONG LIVE CAPTIONG, THE TTY,
MIKE YARED
Rev. Jim Sutter
>
>You know, you're right! I may not be able to work, but at least I'm not as
>brain dead as some of those who can!
Mike: That could be a very touchy remark to those with brain disabilities.
As if I don't have enough to keep me busy so far, i.e., heart failure,
cancer, asthma, chronic hypoxemia, ortho failures, diabetes, etc., now I am
told I have brain damage resulting in epilepsy. Technically, the Dr. says I
have a damaged area in my brain. BUT, that doesn't mean that I won't
continue to put in long hours each day at my ministry work, which is on an
unpaid basis.I wouldn't necessarily call those who can't work "brain dead".
Just a thought. Rev Jim
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On Thu, 26 Oct 1995, Michael Yared wrote:
> To Mike Salvas <M74...@AOL.COM>
>
> I am deaf. I am deaf with understanble speech.
You are very lucky to have that option.
> I am a deaf person who rejected
> the oral life to become a sign language deaf person.
A choice you made based on your preference, I respect that, as I respect
a person's choice for the oral life.
> Sometimes, I feel alone
> on the ADA-LAW listserv because some people here want to protect the rights
> of people who are least severely disabled than I am.
Sometimes we can judge, but do we really know what CHALLENGES another
person may face?!?!? The beauty of the computer group is that issues may
be exchanged on an equal view basis. You do not know my situation, nor I
yours. I learned years ago that any persons challenge may be tremendous.
>
> YOUR STATEMENT THAT A PWD WITH A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW CANNOT
> PUT HIS VIEW ON ANYWHERE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY ARE A PWD OR JUST
> SOMEONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE ISSUES MAKE ME SICK IN THE STOMACH AND IT
> IS DISGUSTING.
Everyone has the choice to agree and disagree. When upu publicly express
your position, YOU must to be able to stand and positively defend your
position. You have a right to your opinion, BUT respect other opinions
and and their choice to agree or disagree.
> OH, ARE DEAF PEOPLE DISABLED IN YOUR VIEW? PROBABLY NOT.
>
No one knows one's views until expressed. Lets respectfully allow a
person the opportunity to do so. In other words share what you seek,
respect to express a diverse opinion.
Mike Salvas
> BUT, that doesn't mean that I won't
>continue to put in long hours each day at my ministry work, which is on an
>unpaid basis.I wouldn't necessarily call those who can't work "brain dead".
> Just a thought. Rev Jim
I apologise to you sir, on my poor choice of words. I meant no disrespect to
you or any with brain injuries. I used it as a form of slang. I will choose
my words more carefully in the future.
Mike
M74...@AOL.COM
Mike Salvas
>
> YOUR STATEMENT THAT A PWD WITH A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW CANNOT
>PUT HIS VIEW ON ANYWHERE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY ARE A PWD OR JUST
>SOMEONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE ISSUES MAKE ME SICK IN THE STOMACH AND IT
>IS DISGUSTING.
> OH, ARE DEAF PEOPLE DISABLED IN YOUR VIEW? PROBABLY NOT.
>
>LONG LIVE CAPTIONG, THE TTY,
>MIKE YARED
>
>
I'm not going to go any further with this string publicly. You know where you
can reach me!
Stan Melton
Mike Yared wrote:
> Sometimes, I feel alone
>on the ADA-LAW listserv because some people here want to protect the rights
>of people who are least severely disabled than I am.
I assume you mean "people who are LESS severely disabled than I am". I am
curious as to who, specifically, you mean by the above statement. Or is this
just another generalization? I am also curious as to what scale you are using
to decide who is more disabled than someone else. How can you compare a deaf
person to a wheelchair user, for example, and define one or the other as being
"more disabled"? Is a blind person "more" or "less" disabled than an amputee?
The whole concept makes no sense to me.
The ADA leaves the definition of disability open to interpretation for a darn
good reason, I think. And while there are people who try to misuse the ADA to
their (unfair) advantage, I don't think any of the regular posters here fit
that category. The many messages you have posted here show that the courts
are doing a pretty good job of weeding out the inappropriate applications of
the ADA, too. So I don't understand your complaint.
Mike Yared also said:
> YOUR STATEMENT THAT A PWD WITH A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW CANNOT
>PUT HIS VIEW ON ANYWHERE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY ARE A PWD OR JUST
>SOMEONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE ISSUES MAKE ME SICK IN THE STOMACH AND IT
>IS DISGUSTING.
And Mike Salvas replied:
>I'm not going to go any further with this string publicly. You know where you
>can reach me!
Mike S. - I wish you WOULD go a little further with this publicly, because,
unless my reading skills have deteriorated from reading so many messages on so
many lists so quickly, you NEVER said what M.Y. accused you of saying. Did
you?
Stan Melton
Mike Salvas
>Sharon Cohen
The words used were not "brain damaged" but "brain dead" and brain dead is
very different from brain damaged. Or should we e-mail you in heaven?
Let's see: rev...@pearly.gates.net? I don't think so, not yet! How do you
know what M. Salvas' own disability is? He is disabled enough not to be
able to work. You just made him uncomfortable for using a common expression
that has nothing to do with brain damage. I have myself sometimes said
"they are more deaf than the deaf!" and I am deaf. Two very different
meanings there. In many other languages one word can have multiple meanings
and must be taken in the context of which it is used.
To: Sharon Cohen
Thank you for your support. Things have a way of jumping out of the computer
around here. My computer and I will choose our words more carefully next
time.
Mike
M74...@AOL.COM