[STOCKPHOTO] Stock Images Directly from Digital Camera
Trev...@aol.com
In a message dated 17/9/02 02:31:44, wpf...@earthlink.net writes:
<< Is anyone here submitting such images as direct digital files? It
sure makes producing stock images ridiculously inexpensive and easy
compared to dealing with chromes.
Phil Fleming >>
Film and processing has always been the cheapest part of my photography. My
big expenses are vehicles, (just paid £400 for a car alarm), Air fares and
hotels, (Just paid over £500 hotel cost for three days in Venice which were
washed out by rain), and petrol which is well ahead of my film costs this
year.
I know that digital cameras are little miracles but how they are reducing
these costs is beyond me ;-)
Bob Croxford
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Brian Yarvin
> reducing these costs is beyond me ;-)
Bob:
I am surprised at you! I never would have guessed you didn't know
what Phil's story was. Digital imaging is "ridiculously inexpensive
and easy" for him because he gets his gear for free.
There may be many reasons for stock photographers to be learning
about digital imaging, but lowering costs isn't one of them!
The relentless need for upgrades, the endless consumption of
"consumables," and the ever changing standards set forth by
buyers and agents make going digital an expensive proposition for
anybody interested in the high end of the market.
Brian Yarvin
Stockphotos for agencies around the world from Edison, NJ
http://www.brianyarvin.com
gary_c...@pch.gc.ca
change unless digital produces better images than film - that day may come.
wpflem2002
example.
wpflem2002
business. Much of my stock work is done locally or when I travel
for other reasons. Thus, primary travel costs don't make up a big
part of my stock photo expenses. So for me, film, processing, and
FedEx mailings still add up significantly.
I also have other sources of income on Schedule C to balance
against, so when I do travel, the business tax deduction I get based
on my stock photography efforts is very nice.
--- In STOCKPHOTO@y..., Trevitho@A... wrote:
wpflem2002
of the the digital body. I have the lenses already and I maintain
quite satifactory computer equipment for other reasons. So, it's
not an entirely free ride, but that not much beyond pocket change.
Trev...@aol.com
In a message dated 6/10/02 00:06:15, wpf...@earthlink.net writes:
<< Obviously, travel is a huge expense for many in the stock
business. Much of my stock work is done locally or when I travel
for other reasons. Thus, primary travel costs don't make up a big
part of my stock photo expenses. So for me, film, processing, and
FedEx mailings still add up significantly. >>
Counting depreciation, fuel, insurance and repairs just running my modest
vehicle costs me about twice as much as I spend on film each year. That is
not counting any airfares, hotels and car hire in addition.
I have this image of a photographer who cycles everywhere and shoots a lot of
film.
Bob Croxford
Brian Yarvin
> modest vehicle costs me about twice as much as I spend on film each
> year. That is not counting any airfares, hotels and car hire in
> addition.
Bob:
I think a competition should be held to find out which full time stock
shooter on this uses the most "modest" vehicle. Mine is a 1995
Ford Escort.
Extra points could be given to those who bought their cars new and
kept them unbelieveable amounts of time. (I know somebody who
bought a 1961 Rambler new when he was in his late teens and still
owns it - but he doesn't read this list)
> I have this image of a photographer who cycles everywhere and
> shoots a lot of film.
I've thought of this too. But every cyclist I've talked to spends a
fortune on his gear! A good used Ford Escort costs far less than a
quality touring bike. Add the clothes (are they still selling Fausto
Coppi jerseys?) and you have a sort of outdoorsman's fashion
parade.
Brian Yarvin
Stockphotos for agencies around the world from Edison, NJ
http://www.brianyarvin.com
Barb Coxe
> ...competition ...which full time stock shooter on this uses the most "modest" vehicle. Mine is a 1995 Ford Escort.
> Extra points could be given to those who bought their cars new...
Respectfully submitting a 1990 Nissan Sentra XE that knows the route
from home to the lab so well I could send it by itself - uniquely marked
with initials so local police, seeing it stopped under a No Parking
sign, will know it's just "that photographer woman" again, taking
pictures of some bush or other.
Barb
sirius
> with the most bizzare car. Of course, Europeans would have stay
> on the sidelines because too many cars over there would be
> bizzare. I'll bet there are dozens of English shooters working out of
> forty year old Morris Minors and at least one Italian with a 1952
> Fiat 550.
Perhaps a Citröen Deux Chevaux or a Messerscmitt bubblecar? :-)
Jeff Rankin-Lowe
Brian Yarvin
> from home to the lab so well I could send it by itself - uniquely
> marked with initials so local police, seeing it stopped under a No
> Parking sign, will know it's just "that photographer woman" again,
> taking pictures of some bush or other.
Barbe:
While a 1990 Sentra would certainly qualify as a "modest" car,
even by the extreme English standards that Bob might subscribe
to, its' special status with the police disqualifies it.
Sorry.
I may set up a special catagory for North Americans of who shoots
with the most bizzare car. Of course, Europeans would have stay
on the sidelines because too many cars over there would be
bizzare. I'll bet there are dozens of English shooters working out of
forty year old Morris Minors and at least one Italian with a 1952
Fiat 550.
Private note to Frans Rombout; what was that car you were using
when I was in Holland two years ago? I recall it as being similar to
a 550, but without suspension of any sort...
Is there somebody out there using high end (16MP+) digital gear
and driving an International Harvester Travelall?
Brian Yarvin
Stockphotos for agencies around the world from Edison, NJ
http://www.brianyarvin.com
JO...@aol.com
time stock-shooter since then. In 1984 I bought a new 4-door Mazda 323...I
still have it. Drive every day and plan on keeping it a while longer.....Can
anyone top this?
Joe Outland
San Diego, CA
Forgot to mention, I have a daughter attending Johns Hopkins University.
Could this be why I drive an old car? Tho she did promise to make the
payments on a new Winnebago, for me, after she graduates.
Trev...@aol.com
In a message dated 6/10/02 13:25:33, br...@brianyarvin.com writes:
<< > Counting depreciation, fuel, insurance and repairs just running my
> modest vehicle costs me about twice as much as I spend on film each
> year. That is not counting any airfares, hotels and car hire in
> addition.
Bob:
I think a competition should be held to find out which full time stock
shooter on this uses the most "modest" vehicle. Mine is a 1995
Ford Escort.
Extra points could be given to those who bought their cars new and
kept them unbelieveable amounts of time. (I know somebody who
bought a 1961 Rambler new when he was in his late teens and still
owns it - but he doesn't read this list) >>
Dear Brian
I must admit to being in a changeover period so may be cheating. The vehicle
I will shortly sell is a ten year old standard Renault Trafic van into which
I fitted a bed, fridge, sink and hotplate myself. No fancy camper windows. I
have slept in it a lot when shooting in the UK and taken it to Italy France
and Spain. Its replacement is a Peugeot van which is much the same but really
luxurious in comparison because it has power steering.
I thought of you more of a classic Italian sports car driver. An ageing
Ferrari or Masarati perhaps?
I would guess that most stock shooters have a camper van of some sort. I was
converted to campers after borrowing the late Walter Benser's a few year's
back for a trip to Norway.
Bob
Howard M. Paul
running just too many non-stock photography threads. It is becoming more
difficult to weed through these -- I ask that we return to the discourse of
the
business of stock photography.
A cute anecdote is great once in a while, but can we resist the impulse to
continue threads on cars, "fishing piers" and so on.
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JO...@aol.com
while any subject can get BORING!
joe outland
Tim & Ronna
260,000 miles on it now. Finially have to replace the clutch. On the
third set of tires, second battery, and needed one brake job so far. On
the rare occasion I need something larger I take my wife's 1988 Dodge
Caravan...that we got free from my folks when they bought a new one two
years ago. It's near 300,000 miles but had to replace the engine last year.
Note that here in northern Minnesota rust is the major factor...my
Escort has no floor in the back seat. Well, there's carpeting, but no
metal left. If anyone were to get in the back by stepping on the floor
I'm guessing they'd go right thru. This is the Pony model. No air, no
power steering, brakes, locks or anything else. 4 speed and AM radio.
And of course the heater was standard. No intermittent wipers, no fog
lights, no cruise, none of that crap that breaks and costs a fortune to
fix. I'm thinking in a couple years I may have to retire it.
Tim Verthein Photography
> I think a competition should be held to find out which full time stock
> shooter on this uses the most "modest" vehicle. Mine is a 1995
> Ford Escort.
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ric...@aol.com
shooter on this uses the most "modest" vehicle. Mine is a 1995
Ford Escor>
Not sure if I have you beat but I am still driving a 1993 Honda civic,
working on the second odometer so it only has 5,000 miles plus another almost
140,000 which is recorded on a sticker inside the drivers side door frame of
the car. It is still going strong.
Rich
Rich Dunoff
(610) 449-9979
http://phillyphoto.com
BPST...@aol.com
br...@brianyarvin.com writes:
> I think a competition should be held to find out which full time stock
> shooter on this uses the most "modest" vehicle. Mine is a 1995
> Ford Escort.
>
Do agents count? 1986 Ford Ranger pickup.
Carl May
/BPS
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Rick Boden
wrote:
> A cute anecdote is great once in a while, but can we resist the
impulse to
> continue threads on cars, "fishing piers" and so on.
> _________________________________________________
I agree...except in this instance of everyone describing what they
drive it might be relevant and may even change the face of the
industry. For example, lots of aspiring stock photographers
reading this thread may have just decided on a different career.
:-)
Rick
Brian Yarvin
> drive it might be relevant and may even change the face of the
> industry. For example, lots of aspiring stock photographers reading
> this thread may have just decided on a different career. :-)
>
> Rick
Rick and Fellow Listreaders:
Thanks for all the responses!
I too, think that some of the newcomers who read this board will
now take up auto repair instead of stock shooting.
Although I had humorous intent when I began the thread, there is
lots to be learned by what people drive.
Brian Yarvin
Stockphotos for agencies around the world from Edison, NJ
http://www.brianyarvin.com
gary_c...@pch.gc.ca
Gary Neil Corbett
Howard M. Paul
>For example, lots of aspiring stock photographers
>reading this thread may have just decided on a different career.
>:-)
OK, OK -- it IS business related!
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Howard M. Paul Phone: (303) 829-5678 Fax: (303) 871-8356
hmp...@ecentral.com
Photography for Communication & Commerce http://howardpaul.photofolio.com
Emergency!Stock http://www.emergencystock.photofolio.com
"We take photographs with our hearts and we take photographs with
our minds. The camera is nothing more than a tool." -- A. Newman