I don't think I'm in the market for such a thing but apparently there IS a market for such items. I suppose you could include some of the Holiday "special edition" paint jobs, then go into (you name it) NFL, state capitals, NASCAR, ad-nauseum.
I'm OK with such things as long as the manufacturer specifies that it is not an accurate representation of a real prototype. If they can make some money off it and offset the cost of bringing new models to market, so be it.
Didn't the Southern Pacific and Santa Fe produce a SPSF (or was it SFSP) paint scheme on some of their locos before the ICC turned thumbs down on their merger plans? My fuzzy memory of this is that the paint scheme was red and yellow.
John-NYBWDidn't the Southern Pacific and Santa Fe produce a SPSF (or was it SFSP) paint scheme on some of their locos before the ICC turned thumbs down on their merger plans? My fuzzy memory of this is that the paint scheme was red and yellow.
Back during the 1980's Model Diecasting (Roundhouse) actually DID offer several limited edition SPSF freight cars, factory painted. They were still kits like everything else then, but you could get those freight cars with multiple road numbers AND there were some cars that were wishful thinking paint schemes, not factually correct on that particular car. They are rare but do turn up at the train shows.
I know this isn't really what we're on about here but I recently got a sort of fantasy paint scheme that I didn't want - an Athearn MRL SD70ace that is definately a shade of purple not blue no matter what light I look at it in.
Anyways the real subject matter as Mr Pullman says as long as it is stated as such then why not? My thing? Not really but that everything John Deere caper has been going forever and makes money which isn't offensive to me.
(Although mine is explained differently - my fictional line hosts NS run through's, and as a concession, NS allowed my railroad to tack a one-off locomotive on their GE order, and since they chose to not do a EL heritage unit, my railroad received the green light to do one.)
The Athearn AC4400CW NS Heritage units can be exlpained as "close enough" in my opinion to qualify, as could the Intermountain CNW ES44 #1995, UP simply did what NS did, and split their heritage painted units between EMD and GE units. So although these are all "fantasy painted" units, they are very plausible. (Yes, as model railroaders, we know that a AC4400 is not the same as a ES44AC, just like a GE is not an EMD SD70ACe. But I won't tell if you don't.)
The above Athearn and Intermountain units are very much like the AC4400 I am custom doing as a stand in for a WNY&P AC6000 unit. It's close enough that, unless you know locomotives well, and know that WNY&P 6003 is a rebuilt AC6000 unit, people won't notice the difference between them. (And it looks so close to the part, while in use it might even fool those who do know the difference between the 4400 & 6000 models if they are not paying close attention to it.) Those who know are expecting it to be a wide cab GE AC6000, and they see a wide cab GE AC locomotive, so they could assume it's a AC6000, even though it is not, and not even give it any other thought.
I have also done a couple of "what if" freight cars, that, while not 100% correct, the railroad could have done them that way. (Right type, right color, but different logo or lettering, or right type, right lettering, but wrong color or size.)
Yes! This! This locomotive reminds me of the time me and one of my buddies tried to make a layout plan with the theme SPSF in western oregon. Too bad he had stuff happen and asn't able to make it happen.
Fantasy schemes are awesome! I enjoy seeing different ideas and engines painted in unquie paint. Today with all the heritage schemes and short lines having SD-60s and SD-70MACs almost anything is possible. I model a lot of GTW, and my collection includes: SD70I, SD45B, SD60F, GP40X, GP60B all in GT blue and orange and an SD35P in passenger black and orange.
GTW never had any of those engines.
MisterBeasleyHow about the beer reefers made from old Athearn BB reefer kits? I think these are Greenberg paintjobs. I have a few, just because they're ice bunker reefers. I don't recognize any of beer names.
For some reason, collecting beer reefers was kind of a big deal back in the 1980s/1990s, even amongst modellers who normally weren't 'collectors'. A couple of model companies made a variety of cars, some based on real reefers but many fantasy schemes for companies that really existed but never shipped beer by rail. The fad seems to have died down in recent years.
Although there are big national beer companies / brands (Budweiser, Miller, etc.) there are many local or regional beer companies that are well known only certain areas, like Schells Brewery in New Ulm, MN or Leinenkugel in Chippewa Falls, WI (although the latter might be a little bit known nationally due to the cast of the old Mystery Science Theater 3000 referencing "Leinies" a few times on the show). It could be the names you don't recognize are some of those.
gmpullmanI don't think I'm in the market for such a thing but apparently there IS a market for such items. I suppose you could include some of the Holiday "special edition" paint jobs, then go into (you name it) NFL, state capitals, NASCAR, ad-nauseum.
To me the hobby is all about unlimited imagination, but I would never say folks who copy or model prototypes are strange.....just see the hobby differently than I do. Since Covid hit I have begun my "What could have been" series of rolling stock and structures. Actually I have been building and selling structures of imagination buildings since the 80's, but recently added rolling stock....www.zanestructures.com. Since 2019 I have built over 400 cars and sold about 1/4 of them to date. I'm greatly influnced by John Allen and his quote..."No matter how strange or different a model my be, somewhere a prototype possibly existed".....and I love building these...all from basswood. Enjoy the hobby in anyway which suits you. My layout is completely about this and the only thing that is correct are the locos.
maxman richhotrainI don't have any problem with freelancing versus prototype modeling, but fantasy paint schemes If someone freelances but doesn't follow a prototype, say Utah Belt or V&O, doesn't the resulting paint scheme become a fantay scheme?
I may or may not be using the term "freelance" correctly, but in my mind it is a reference to using actual locomotive and rolling stock road names, for example Santa Fe and Western Maryland, on the same layout and, perhaps, on the same track even if the two railroads never appeared together.
Taking it a step further, freelancing in my mind is mixing locomotives and rolling stock from different eras even though some of the locomotives and rolling stock have build dates that were later than the era being modeled.
richhotrainI may or may not be using the term "freelance" correctly, but in my mind it is a reference to using actual locomotive and rolling stock road names, for example Santa Fe and Western Maryland, on the same layout and, perhaps, on the same track even if the two railroads never appeared together.
You and I view freelancing very differently. I consider myself a freelancer, who is modeling a railroad that never existed in real life. This used to be quite common in model railroading when common locomotives and rolling stock were generic models. Some freelancers go to more effort than others to be realistic. Until I get around to repainting/relettering, my rolling stock will have road names that don't match the imaginary railroads I model. Or the real railroads my imaginary ones interchange with. I even have some locomotives that are brass or zinc colored.
To me, a fantasy paint scheme is very similar to what used to be called "foobies" - models painted for real railroads that never owned anything resembling the model. The fantasy paint scheme is a what-might-have-been had history taken a different turn.
I think the original poster was looking for what curent paint schemes would look like for fallen flag railroads. In my case that would be what a modern PRR would look like. I have two E60cp engines one in five stripe and one in single stripe. I also have two E60 cf engines with just keystones. All are in dark green. I also have an AEM7 that is silver with a maroon band with PENNSYLVANIA on the band and metroliners in the shortlived PRR scheme with a thin red stripes around the windows and joined at the cab end. Prototype pictures of that are very hard to come by
In 1996, Earnhardt once again ran a special paint scheme in the Winston Select. He ran a scheme paying tribute to the Olympic games that were coming to Atlanta in the summer. By 1997, there were special schemes popping up all over the place. Earnhardt ran a colorful orange Wheaties scheme in the 1997 running of The Winston. Jeff Gordon introduced the world to the Jurassic Park scheme in the same event and smoked the field en route to the win with the now infamous T-Rex car. Ernie Irvan ran a throwback Texaco scheme in the event as well. More special schemes were introduced throughout other races on the schedule. Bill Elliott ran his Mac Tonight Ford in several races during the 1997 season.
Then it seemed like everyone was running special paint schemes in various races going forward. The 1998 running of The Winston had Earnhardt in a gold colored Bass Pro Shops car, Mark Martin in a special Synpower Roush Racing ride, Geoff Bodine in a special Philips Ford, and Jeff Gordon in the ChromaLusion DuPont Chevy. The Winston Open that evening even had several drivers running special paint schemes.
Racer Mike Willard has been working on a number of "Throwback" schemes for his ProTrack 612S - based racing cars. The paint schemes are on .020" clear bodies made by S&E Raceway. S&E offers a Toyota Camry, Chevrolet Camaro, Ford Mustang and Dodge Challenger in their line. Contact S&E if you have questions about their bodies.
The bodies were painted for use in Upstate Speedway's Thursday and Saturday Stock Car class. Full rules and technical specifications can be found on the Upstate Speedway website.