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Ali El-Salanti

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Nov 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/13/00
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Is it necessary to DEPC treat 70 and 100% ethanol prior to RNA
precipitation. If yes how do you autoclave 100% ethanol.
Thanks
AS

Frank Ludewig

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Nov 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/13/00
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You should NOT autoclave 100% ethanol!!!
mix DEPC-treated water and ethanol (p.a.) to yield 70 % ethanol.
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marianne carter

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Nov 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/13/00
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NO
Same as you dont DEPC treat other solutions you make up eg EDTA
etc........you use DEPC treated water only as it breaks specific chemical
bonds ie heat treatment of some chemical solutions for use inn RNA
purification.


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Ali El-Salanti

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Nov 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/13/00
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So when I make buffer I do not have to DEPC treat it as long as I use DEPC
water? But what if the things I use are not "ultra pure - high grade RNAse
free" fx EDTA or sodium acetate?
Thanks
Ali

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Rogier

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Nov 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/13/00
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> So when I make buffer I do not have to DEPC treat it as long as I use
DEPC
> water?

Yeah, you gotta DEPC everything. That's why most RNA people use HEPES
instead of Tris (HEPES can be DEPCed, Tris not). DEPC reacts with
amines, so anything that contains amines (Tris, EDTA) can not be DEPCed.
No need to DEPC ethanol, since RNases are not soluble in pure alcohol.
If you're really paranoid, you can spin big tubes of ethanol to make
sure any RNase in there is removed.
(as you know, even denatured RNases can be revived when mixed with
water. you can extract active RNase A from the white interphase you get
in phenol extractions...)
Good luck,
Rogier

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Michael L. Sullivan

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>NO
>Same as you dont DEPC treat other solutions you make up eg EDTA
>etc........you use DEPC treated water only as it breaks specific chemical
>bonds ie heat treatment of some chemical solutions for use inn RNA
>purification.
>

DEPC CAN be used to treat some solutions, just not those made with
amine-containing compounds, like TRIS. However, LiCl, NaOAc solutions and
the like can be DEPC treated, although such precautions are often not
needed if care is taken, even for water. As for the specific question
regarding treatment of EtOH-- just use an unopened bottle and use
DEPC-treated (or other RNAse free source) water to make the 70%.

Mike

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Dr. Hiranya S. Roychowdhury

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Nov 13, 2000, 10:31:01 PM11/13/00
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Absolutely don't try to "treat" Etoh w/ DEPC! How do you propose to get rid
of DEPC after you have added it to the etoh?

At 09:03 AM 11/13/00 +0100, Ali El-Salanti wrote:
>Is it necessary to DEPC treat 70 and 100% ethanol prior to RNA
>precipitation. If yes how do you autoclave 100% ethanol.
>Thanks
>AS
>
>
>
>

Dr. Hiranya Sankar Roychowdhury
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Dept. of Chemistry & Biochemistry
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Ali El-Salanti

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Nov 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/14/00
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What happens when you try to DEPC treat amine-containing solutions fx. TRIS?

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Michael L. Sullivan

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Nov 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/14/00
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>What happens when you try to DEPC treat amine-containing solutions fx. TRIS?
>

Well, the DEPC simply reacts with the excess of amine groups in solution.
Consequently, the DEPC is not available to react with amine groups in
proteins, like RNase. So in this case, it's not a matter of something bad
happening, just a case of wasting money on a treatment that would be
ineffective.

Gauthier , Eric

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Nov 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/15/00
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I just don't care about DEPC treatment, and my RNA is just fine...


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