This Bionet discussion list will be turned off in April

[Don Gilbert]

PLEASE NOTE:
This Bionet discussion service will be turned of in April, next month,
due to new Indiana University policy to remove scientist-run services
such as this one. This discussion network seeks a new supporting
organization for http://www.bio.net/

Discussion of Bionet's future can proceed on the list Bionet.general,
email: biof...@net.bio.net, or see this Google Groups copy,
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/bionet.general
which should survive the IU shutdown.

Suggestions and comments may also be emailed to me at
gilbert...@gmail.com, please request anonymity if desired.

See also this notice about Bionet at
https://doi.org/10.7287/peerj.preprints.27523v1

A host organization that will maintain or expand this unique resource
is sought. Suggestions include (1) an established biology-oriented
center that already maintains public E-mail lists with the popular
GNU-Mailman system used by Biosci; (2) open-access science
communication credentials; (3) possible re-location to an Old World
home, in Europe or Asia-Pacific, as Bionet receives continuing high
use from these areas. The alternative of a new institutional home for
Bionet will be up to group members, with options of commercial
offerings like Google Groups, Twitter, FaceBook, and others.

-- Don Gilbert
E-mail: gilbert...@gmail.com or gilb...@indiana.edu

[gilbert...@gmail.com]

This is my test reply via Google Groups to make sure Google's copy of bionet.general is accepting posts. Please post your thoughts on Bionet continuation here.

-- DGG

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 2:14:04 PM UTC-4, Don Gilbert wrote:
> PLEASE NOTE:
> This Bionet discussion service will be turned of in April, next month,
> due to new Indiana University policy to remove scientist-run services
> such as this one. This discussion network seeks a new supporting
> organization for http://www.bio.net/
>
> Discussion of Bionet's future can proceed on the list Bionet.general,
> email: biof...@net.bio.net, or see this Google Groups copy,
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/bionet.general
> which should survive the IU shutdown.
>
>

[cthy....@gmail.com]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 2:14:04 PM UTC-4, Don Gilbert wrote:

Don,

Thanks for letting us know.

This bionet group has not been active in recent years in any case (I have served as volunteer administrator for more than two decades).

The protein crystallography community has a number of much-more-active discussion channels through software-associated discussion groups (e.g., ccp4bb, phenix). My suggestion to list members would be to join these other discussions.

I do hope that archived posts from the bionet protein-crystallography listserve will remain available and searchable. Do we need to find a new home even if only for archiving?

thanks,

Cathy Lawson

[Richard...@unsw.edu.au]

Thanks for your efforts over the years Don.

Usenet was a great resource for neuroscience protocols in the early days of the internet. Its use has dropped to zero over the last years. I'm not sure where the discussions have moved though.

best wishes
Richard Vickery

[Dr Engelbert Buxbaum]

In article <mailman.0.1552759...@net.bio.net>,
gilb...@net.bio.net says...

> A host organization that will maintain or expand this unique resource
> is sought. Suggestions include (1) an established biology-oriented
> center that already maintains public E-mail lists with the popular
> GNU-Mailman system used by Biosci; (2) open-access science
> communication credentials; (3) possible re-location to an Old World
> home, in Europe or Asia-Pacific, as Bionet receives continuing high
> use from these areas. The alternative of a new institutional home for
> Bionet will be up to group members, with options of commercial
> offerings like Google Groups, Twitter, FaceBook, and others.

Hi,

commercial enterprises like twitter and facebook present severe privacy
issues, I have so far steered well clear of them.

Part of the discussions that once happened on usenet are now on
http://researchgate.net/ or http://stackexchange.com/. But I'd miss
usenet, if it were to become defunct.

--
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what corrective actions can be taken, and the cause of the error.

[gilbert...@gmail.com]

Dr. Buxbaum,

Thanks for the note, which I agree with. Usenet got a bad rep due to spam and this and that, but in my view also it is the better discussion media, worth continuing, versus those various commercially owned systems now popular, but
now showing signs of misuse.

Your news service, eternal september, in Germany indicates that Europe has kept on with Usenet more than USA. If you know of anyone to contact with interests in maintaining Bionet w/ its unique Usenet + mailing list readership, please do .. forward links about this. With a bit of promotion that I am not suited for, Bionet could become more vibrant among bioscientists who don't care for commercial uses of their public discussions.

-- Don Gilbert

On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 7:48:27 AM UTC-4, Dr Engelbert Buxbaum wrote:
> In article <mailman.0.1552759...@net.bio.net>,
> gilb...@net.bio.net says...
>
> > A host organization that will maintain or expand this unique resource
> > is sought. Suggestions include (1) an established biology-oriented
> > center that already maintains public E-mail lists with the popular
> > GNU-Mailman system used by Biosci; (2) open-access science
> > communication credentials; (3) possible re-location to an Old World
> > home, in Europe or Asia-Pacific, as Bionet receives continuing high
> > use from these areas.
>