Of Strange Flesh - re 666 & chemistry (fwd)

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Kerry Delf

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I know that the post below is simply the esoteric jibberish of a
kook-ranter; unfortunately, there are those who take it seriously.

I am no microbiologist, and therefore do not have the information at my
fingertips with which to debunk this bizarre theory -- I'm hoping someone
with more knowledge of the subject can provide me <k...@jersey.uoregon.edu>
with a brief, educated explanation as to why human biology just doesn't
work this way. :)

The basic claim made here by Adam Willson (based on the theories of a
well-known [in certain circles] kook, Tani Jantsang) is that there are two
separate species we label "human": one is based on Carbon-12 (6 protons,
6 neutrons), while the other is based on some other Carbon isotope.

Anyone care to take a stab at this one?

Thanks in advance,

-K.Delf


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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:09:43 -0500
From: "Adam D. Willson" <gs0...@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Of Strange Flesh - re 666 & chemistry


This is the best explanation I can give at this time w/o getting _too_
esoteric.

666 is the number of man, which is the number of the beast. E.g., of
natural animals, those rooted in nature, following nature etc. It
esoterically represents: SIX protons, SIX electrons, & SIX neutrons.

Scratch asked me what the "strange flesh" would be like? The best answer I
can give is this:

Protons determine electrons, which in turn determines matter which
klippoths surely are. They are matter.

Now the # of neutrons could be diff. which would mean they would look like
any other human, but would only be diff. in terms of behavior.

Now if the neutrons are set free of the demiurgos which encases them they
become Ophioneus (cf. Tani's article "Akarthic & Ophionic States", Karl
recently posted this).

In Genesis 1:2 the 6 constructor sephiroth move over the BAHU which is
called "the waters". 666 is the Foundation/Root which is called BAHU.

Demiurge is the nucleus of our atoms represented by 6 colors (quarks). The
hochmah/vajre/logos must be rooted in the waters, in order to have a
Foundation.

Again if the neutrons are set free of the demiurge which encases them they
become ophionic. All of this is very difficult to get into w/o a
familiarity of the Kaballa, or Jantsang's articles.

I recommend for those who are interested _Serpent Race vs. Adamic Race_
pg. 20. <snip> Or if you want you may read the collection of articles by
Tani on Hr. Vad's website at:

http://www.inet.uni-c.dk/~haroth/Abyss/Vad/index.html

Best regards,
Adam D. Willson
gs0...@panther.gsu.edu


Alan "Uncle Al" Schwartz

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Kerry Delf <k...@jersey.uoregon.edu> wrote:
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>PLEASE CC REPLIES TO <k...@jersey.uoregon.edu>
>---------------------------------------------
>
>
>I know that the post below is simply the esoteric jibberish of a
>kook-ranter; unfortunately, there are those who take it seriously.
>
>I am no microbiologist, and therefore do not have the information at my
>fingertips with which to debunk this bizarre theory -- I'm hoping someone
>with more knowledge of the subject can provide me <k...@jersey.uoregon.edu>
>with a brief, educated explanation as to why human biology just doesn't
>work this way. :)
>
>The basic claim made here by Adam Willson (based on the theories of a
>well-known [in certain circles] kook, Tani Jantsang) is that there are two
>separate species we label "human": one is based on Carbon-12 (6 protons,
>6 neutrons), while the other is based on some other Carbon isotope.
>
>Anyone care to take a stab at this one?

C-13 algae are rountinely grown from C-13 CO2 to manufacture
high-enrichment C-13 labelled biochemicals. The stuff is obscenely
expensive.

The human claim is plain stooopid, and trivially discounted via mass spec
or C-13 NMR of a tissue sample (or exhalation) if the thermodynamic
argument is over your head.

--
Alan "Uncle Al" Schwartz
Uncl...@ix.netcom.com ("zero" before @)
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Anonymous

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Kerry Delf wrote:
>
> PLEASE CC REPLIES TO <k...@jersey.uoregon.edu>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> I know that the post below is simply the esoteric jibberish of a
> kook-ranter; unfortunately, there are those who take it seriously.
>
> I am no microbiologist, and therefore do not have the information at my
> fingertips with which to debunk this bizarre theory -- I'm hoping someone
> with more knowledge of the subject can provide me <k...@jersey.uoregon.edu>
> with a brief, educated explanation as to why human biology just doesn't
> work this way. :)
>
> The basic claim made here by Adam Willson (based on the theories of a
> well-known [in certain circles] kook, Tani Jantsang) is that there are two
> separate species we label "human": one is based on Carbon-12 (6 protons,
> 6 neutrons), while the other is based on some other Carbon isotope.
>
> Anyone care to take a stab at this one?
>


It is somewhat cool that you posted this statement on the last day of
1996. As you may or may not already know, the year 1996 is only like 8
other years in this milleneum in that it contains the number 666 within
it. If you drop the '1' and invert the two '9's, you get the famed
dreaded mark. I have heard that when biological organizms consume large
amounts of food or water laced with deuturium that throughout time the
organism might have a slight slowdown in metabolism. This may
supposedly be due to the increased weight of compounds due to the
doubling in molecular weight of the deuturium over the hydrogen. Carbon
13, however, does not have the extreme amount of added mass to the
compound over that of hydrogen. Probably there would not be the change
in metabolic effects that would be observed from consuming large amounts
of heavy water. You never know, however. If you want to, you might
consider becoming such a mutant being. By consuming large amounts of
C13 seaweed throughout time, you might provide an interesting metabolic
experiment. You would have to do so throughout several years, and
probably nothing would end up happening. Afterwards, however, you might
periodically throughout time dedicate your tissues for CMR analysis,
because they would show up well on such scans. It would also be helpful
in guessing throughout time how quickly certain tissues are replaced
with new material taken in as food. Eating C13 laced food might be
expensive, however, and in the end, you probably wouldn't feel any
different. It's an interesting thought...

-X

Triple Quadrophenic

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In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.961231...@jersey.uoregon.edu>,
k...@jersey.uoregon.edu (Kerry Delf ) dusted off the quill, prised open the
inkwell and wrote...

[Snip]

>The basic claim made here by Adam Willson (based on the theories of a
>well-known [in certain circles] kook, Tani Jantsang) is that there are two
>separate species we label "human": one is based on Carbon-12 (6 protons,
>6 neutrons), while the other is based on some other Carbon isotope.
>
>Anyone care to take a stab at this one?

As a mass spectroscopist involved in metabolism I can tell you that if I
examined samples from a person based on Carbon-X (where X is not 12) then
alarm bells would flash immediately.


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Triple Quadrophenic

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In article <32C9D3...@efgh.net>, ab...@efgh.net (Anonymous ) dusted off
the quill, prised open the inkwell and wrote...
>

>


>It is somewhat cool that you posted this statement on the last day of
>1996. As you may or may not already know, the year 1996 is only like 8
>other years in this milleneum in that it contains the number 666 within
>it. If you drop the '1' and invert the two '9's, you get the famed
>dreaded mark.

What about 1997? If you remove the 1, the two 9s and the 7; then put in
three 6s you get 666.

Tim Blackmore

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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In article <5ag2ui$3...@hbu005.ha.uk.sbphrd.com>,

Frank_H...@sbphrd.com.see-sig (Triple Quadrophenic) wrote:
>In article <32C9D3...@efgh.net>, ab...@efgh.net (Anonymous ) dusted off
>the quill, prised open the inkwell and wrote...
>>
>
>>
>>It is somewhat cool that you posted this statement on the last day of
>>1996. As you may or may not already know, the year 1996 is only like 8
>>other years in this milleneum in that it contains the number 666 within
>>it. If you drop the '1' and invert the two '9's, you get the famed
>>dreaded mark.
>
>What about 1997? If you remove the 1, the two 9s and the 7; then put in
>three 6s you get 666.

Jeeze, you've got it all wrong! You simply invert the nines, and remove the
one from the seven! Voila!

Tim Blackmore tim_bl...@notes.ipl.ca

Lou

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Jan 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/5/97
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well....what if you take 666...and leave it alone.

lou


Triple Quadrophenic <Frank_H...@sbphrd.com.see-sig> wrote:
: In article <32C9D3...@efgh.net>, ab...@efgh.net (Anonymous ) dusted off
: the quill, prised open the inkwell and wrote...

: >

: >
: >It is somewhat cool that you posted this statement on the last day of


: >1996. As you may or may not already know, the year 1996 is only like 8
: >other years in this milleneum in that it contains the number 666 within
: >it. If you drop the '1' and invert the two '9's, you get the famed
: >dreaded mark.

: What about 1997? If you remove the 1, the two 9s and the 7; then put in

: three 6s you get 666.

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: Frank J Hollis, Mass Spectroscopy, SmithKline Beecham, Welwyn, UK
: Frank_H...@sbphrd.com or fj...@tutor.open.ac.uk
: These opinions have not been passed by seven committes, eleven
: sub-committees, six STP working parties and a continuous improvement
: team. So there's no way they could be the opinions of my employer.


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Superdave the Wonderchemist

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Jan 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/6/97
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Tim Blackmore (tim_bl...@notes.ipl.ca) wrote:
: In article <5ag2ui$3...@hbu005.ha.uk.sbphrd.com>,

: Frank_H...@sbphrd.com.see-sig (Triple Quadrophenic) wrote:
: >In article <32C9D3...@efgh.net>, ab...@efgh.net (Anonymous ) dusted off
: >the quill, prised open the inkwell and wrote...
: >>
: >
: >>
: >>It is somewhat cool that you posted this statement on the last day of

: >>1996. As you may or may not already know, the year 1996 is only like 8
: >>other years in this milleneum in that it contains the number 666 within
: >>it. If you drop the '1' and invert the two '9's, you get the famed
: >>dreaded mark.
: >

: >What about 1997? If you remove the 1, the two 9s and the 7; then put in
: >three 6s you get 666.

: Jeeze, you've got it all wrong! You simply invert the nines, and remove the

: one from the seven! Voila!

Nope, you subtract 1331 from 1997 and get 666! 1331 is an interesting
number in its own right as it is the same backwards as forewards! Not
only does it shamelessly display the unlucky 13 in both directions, but
it is also the fourth row in pascal's triangle:

1
1 1
1 2 1
1 3 3 1
1 4 6 4 1 and so on...

If that isn't enough, 1331 is also 11 cubed!!! Remember that
the most common isotope of boron is boron-11 and that boron
has only 3 electrons in its valence shell. Also take into
consideration that boron is famous for its 3 center
bridging bonds. The last 3 comes from the nuclear spin of boron-11,
which is 3/2, and that is 3 times the nuclear spin of hydrogen! Now that
we have boron and hydrogen together, we have boranes. Also 666 is man's
number. What all this means should be obvious by now:

1997 will be the year in which humans use boranes to bring about the
beginning of the end of the world!

-Superdave The Wonderchemist


tjs...@sd.cts.com

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Superdave the Wonderchemist wrote:
>
> Tim Blackmore (tim_bl...@notes.ipl.ca) wrote:
> : In article <5ag2ui$3...@hbu005.ha.uk.sbphrd.com>,
> : Frank_H...@sbphrd.com.see-sig (Triple Quadrophenic) wrote:
> : >In article <32C9D3...@efgh.net>, ab...@efgh.net (Anonymous ) dusted off
> : >the quill, prised open the inkwell and wrote...
> : >>
> : >
> : >>
> : >>It is somewhat cool that you posted this statement on the last day of

> : >>1996. As you may or may not already know, the year 1996 is only like 8
> : >>other years in this milleneum in that it contains the number 666 within
> : >>it. If you drop the '1' and invert the two '9's, you get the famed
> : >>dreaded mark.
> : >
> : >What about 1997? If you remove the 1, the two 9s and the 7; then put in
> : >three 6s you get 666.
>
> : Jeeze, you've got it all wrong! You simply invert the nines, and remove the
> : one from the seven! Voila!
>
> Nope, you subtract 1331 from 1997 and get 666! 1331 is an interesting
> number in its own right as it is the same backwards as forewards! Not
> only does it shamelessly display the unlucky 13 in both directions, but
> it is also the fourth row in pascal's triangle:
>
> 1
> 1 1
> 1 2 1
> 1 3 3 1
> 1 4 6 4 1 and so on...
>
> If that isn't enough, 1331 is also 11 cubed!!! Remember that
> the most common isotope of boron is boron-11 and that boron
> has only 3 electrons in its valence shell. Also take into
> consideration that boron is famous for its 3 center
> bridging bonds. The last 3 comes from the nuclear spin of boron-11,
> which is 3/2, and that is 3 times the nuclear spin of hydrogen! Now that
> we have boron and hydrogen together, we have boranes. Also 666 is man's
> number. What all this means should be obvious by now:
>
> 1997 will be the year in which humans use boranes to bring about the
> beginning of the end of the world!
>
> -Superdave The Wonderchemist
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