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Please see attached, in reference to:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2019/10/27/the-world-is-not-going-to-reduce-carbon-dioxide-emissions-by-50-by-2030-now-what/

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Subject: Re: [dd-toronto] very sobering read
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:02:18 +0000
From: martin bush
To: ma...@drawdown-toronto.groups


Hello all,

 

Attached is a quick response to Pielke’s article.

 

Best…

 

Martin

 

Martin Bush, BSc.Tech., MSc., Ph.D.

Climate change & renewable energy

Policy, planning, action

Markham, Ontario, Canada

www.climatezone.org

Author: Climate change and renewable energy:

How to end the climate crisis

https://www.palgrave.com/us/book/9783030154233

 

 

From: ma...@drawdown-toronto.groups On Behalf Of Lyn Adamson
Sent: 30 October 2019 09:42 PM
To: Drawdown Toronto Core Team
Subject: [dd-toronto] very sobering read

 

Dear Drawdown team,

 

I am wondering if Drawdown authors will be responding to this article and the analysis?  would be so curious how the plan to actually achieve these reductions is developing.   best,  Lyn

 

 

Hi everyone,

I thought we should have this on our discussion board and take a look at it.  Reading it over, even though I am not a numbers person, it looks to make a lot of sense to me.

Yes, energy use is increasing as population increases and expectations increase in less developed parts of the world.

So demand can be expected to increase through 2030.

We know that to reduce CO2 emissions 45% by 2030 we'd have to be cutting 4 or 5 percent per year - not increasing.

How can we do this?

This article suggests no we can't.

I'd like to know what Bill McKibben or Mark Jacobson are saying.

Jacobson has always said we can meet demand with all renewable energy (without even considering what conservation/efficiency programs could offer).  That is to say, solar, wind, and hydro.  

Or what Drawdown is saying in response to this kind of analysis.

 

How do we achieve the needed reductions in the very limited timeframe we have?

It has been suggested carbon storage through agriculture has great potential, who has the numbers on this?

 

Sending not to depress us but to get discussion going on realistic plans going forward.

 

Lyn



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