want to buy bone-char?

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Christian Filipina

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Feb 19, 2011, 4:13:09 PM2/19/11
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I have a source where I can buy 2500 pounds of bone char for about .60/
pound including shipping from the mainland, I can't buy all that
however. Is there anyone who wants to buy a bunch also? Also about
the same price for Greensand which is high in potassium and trace
minerals.

josiah hunt

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Feb 22, 2011, 6:58:24 PM2/22/11
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Interesting. 2500 lbs at $.6 is a pretty good price for a product
which probably has a P205 of 15-20%. I have played around with making
bone char from local cow bones. I have to blend it with wood to get
it to work but it comes out real nice. I have had a few small orders
for that, mostly just a couple pounds to make water soluble Calcium
Phosphate via the Natural Farming method (vinegar soak). If you are
interested in the bone char I could make some for you for about the
same price.

Greensand is another story, I have been looking all around for a
reasonable local source of K without much luck so I have been using
mostly K-mag and Sulfate of Potash (though K-mag is no longer
available as OMRI approved). Although not locally sourced the
Greensand is nice stuff. Don't think I am ready for bulk quantities
of it but I am thankful you offered it.

- Josiah

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Christian Filipina

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Feb 22, 2011, 9:13:13 PM2/22/11
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Thanks for responding, I have a few other people also interested in ordering at that price but we still are lacking some more (please contact me if you are interested in bulk bone char or greensand).  Hopefully whatever source we get it from (and of course we'd rather pay you locally and you can pocket the shipping, which is about half of the .6 price).  Have you ever had a formal interaction with health or fire department?  Here where I live the neighbors are all over me even if I only try to roast a hot dog in the middle of my 5 acres, and the fire and health departments back them up.

josiah hunt

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Feb 23, 2011, 3:23:34 PM2/23/11
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Let me know in advance if you want me to make some bone char as I don't make it on a regular basis.

I have had several conversations with Health and Fire Dept. officials and here are the basic rules:

For an open fire there are several requirements:

-  Must be 500 ft from a neighboring residence.

-  Must have adequate water supply.

-  Must not use wood beyond 4" in diameter.

-  No burning of household rubbish.

-  No burning during a burn ban (you can call 961-8336 for a daily update).  

-  Should not be excessively smoky.

-  When cooking food or for food preparation purposes all above requirements do not necessarily apply.   

-  It is recommended to call in with your address and phone # before starting a burn.  This way if there is a complaint or worried call, the fire department is better prepared.  

On Agricultural Land one can apply for a burn permit through the Hawaii Department of Health (933-0401 - talk to Ed).  Some of the requirements for this are:

-  Farming operation with tax license.  

-  Adequate water.

-  Controllable piles.

-  9am till 6pm.

-  No logs larger than 4".  (the laws are designed more for trimming rather than clearing)


The bottom line is complaints.  If people are conscious with what they are doing (and how their neighbors are affected) there should be no problems.  This is the message I have gotten from those that I have spoken with in the fire and health departments.  So, in short, No complaints, No problems, Get complaints, Get problems. 

- Josiah

Christian Filipina

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Feb 23, 2011, 3:39:14 PM2/23/11
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Thanks Josiah for your feedback, that's better than what they had told me 6 months ago (they had said absolutely no burning of anything other than pure grass, and that there was also an island-wide permanent burn ban indefinitely in effect).  

Mark Hoover

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Aug 12, 2014, 10:19:50 AM8/12/14
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Hello.  I was happy to find your posting.  I would be interested in buying some of your bone char.  If you could let me know how to go about doing this that would be great.

Sincerely,

Mark

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Rick Vidgen

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Aug 12, 2014, 1:31:32 PM8/12/14
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Mark,

            Regrettably the Big Island carbon project is in Bankruptcy following the closing of the Private Equity Fund financing the operation. Thus all assets etc are in the hands of the Bankruptcy Court. This is (slowly!!) sorting itself out and I would suggest you contact me in around 8 weeks for an update since nothing is currently possible.

 

Aloha

 

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josiah hunt

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Aug 12, 2014, 8:15:04 PM8/12/14
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Hello Mark,  

I can get bone char delivered from a mainland source.  It is only available in ten ton or larger orders.  The pricing has gone up a little bit since the information below was posted.

If you are interested, contact me and we can arrange for delivery.  

Aloha,

- Josiah Hunt

Aimeed365

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Jan 19, 2016, 12:06:21 PM1/19/16
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My sources for bone char here on the mainland have dried up. Do you still have a source for none char?
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