AANR

[jmar...@yahoo.com]

I would think that if the clean family oriented resorts, clubs and
parks were to stop supporting AANR, then maybe AANR would rethink
accepting the sexually-oriented ones--unless such places outnumber the
good resorts, which I can't believe.

[rox262]

There are over 260 AANR clubs. If only half were the "clean" clubs,
someone would have to contact 130 clubs to start the idea rolling.
I don't think that will ever happen.

It's a shame the few clubs that veer that direction have to mess it up
for all the rest.

FNP, or Fairwind Lakes is NOT an AANR club. Having come from being
and serving within the ranks of AANR for over 10 years, I could
understand why they may never become an AANR club.


Rocco

[Jonathan Palmiter]

Unfortunately, the resort where I live requires
an AANR membership. Jonathan

rox262 <rox...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Michael]

I feel that it is the right of the any naturist facility to go in any
direction that the owners and members want to.

If the naturist facilities can get away with being sex oriented, with
impunity as to their AANR membership, then of course some will. It is
clearly AANR's duty to strike a sex oriented club from the list of
apprved "Family Oriented clubs" that we all rely on, or come right out
and change their personna and rules.

AANR is failing to enforce their own rules, and the perception that
nudists are sex oriented is now rapidly gaining ground because of that
AANR position. I personally feel let down, and some sympathy for the
clubs that HAVE been singled out by AANR to be excluded, on the basics
of being a sex oriented facility [as it should be], while other
facilities doing the same thing are ignored and allowed.

It was an easy decision for me not to be associated any longer with
AANR ... I am not anti-sex, I am anti two-faced. I conclude that AANR
is no longer a Family oriented Association.

Michael T.
www.Fairwindlakes.com

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[usan...@gmail.com]

While those of us within the nudist community attribute a lot of things to
AANR, the majority of the non-nudist population get their impression of
nudism from the media and stories about high profile resorts such as
Hedonism, Caliente, and Paradise Lakes.

Looking back over the past year, the majority of AANR references in the news
are
1. The aging of the nudist population
2. The overly used statistics as to the booming of nudist tourism (using the
same numbers for the past 3 years).

The majority of news stories that mention nudism are usually about
"crackpot nudists" doing something weird. These people may not even be
nudists, but the public perception is that anyone naked is a nudist and all
nudist clubs are hotbeds of sexual activity.

AANR & TNS are basically small operations with few employees and no
enforcement powers. Whether AANR or TNS sanctions a club's activities or
not doesn't make a bit of difference in the real world.
The real measure of a club is now and has always been a personal choice for
the individual. If a club meets your needs as a nudist, it doesn't matter
what its affilliations are with any other organization.

Dan

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Webmaster
http://USAnudist.com

[cyndiann]

On Nov 27, 8:56 am, <usanud...@gmail.com> wrote:

> AANR & TNS are basically small operations with few employees and no
> enforcement powers. Whether AANR or TNS sanctions a club's activities or
> not doesn't make a bit of difference in the real world.
> The real measure of a club is now and has always been a personal choice for
> the individual. If a club meets your needs as a nudist, it doesn't matter
> what its affilliations are with any other organization.
>

Yes it is a personal choice but to have a club that is not "wholesome"
or family oriented posted on AANR's website, which claims to be just
that isn't giving those who use their club directory the whole story.
When you use that directory you are supposed to be confident that you
are getting those family oriented clubs, and that has never held true
for some of the clubs, in particular Paradise Lakes which was
originally owned by a swinger and is now again owned by a swinger, and
Caliente which has taken that extra step past looking the other way
and actually advertising swing parties at it's facilities.

If Caliente feels such a move would help them turn around their
deficit that's great! I feel that it should not be marketed as a
family oriented club when it's not. Is honesty too much to ask for? To
their credit, Caliente stopped advertising in AANR's paper and I feel
they have been up front about this change. TNS dropped Caliente from
their listings for exactly the same reasons AANR should.

It's time AANR started treating all clubs equally instead of throwing
out the small clubs that went towards a more sexy atmosphere and
pretending the big ones aren't doing anything against their policies.

cyndiann

[Thomas]

Naturist v. Sex Oriented Naturist Resort v. AANR

As with any commodity or service sex sells; it is an accepted attage
that we live one way and dream another. For most of the world nudity
is made of dream stuff and our daily routines are conducted under the
threads of status and influence. My opinion of selling Naturism is
that there are two sides to it and both care weight.

But there is a place for each and to promote one over the other
regardless of which side draws more weight, is a dis-service to
Naturism in general. Too much sex detracts from the integrity of those
who find this expression wholesome and pure as Adam and Eve in there
Eden resort. Too much family value and you lose a significant portion
of the dream which draws a substantial revenue reward; a reward that
can be used to further both concepts.

Seems to me the discussion can be plotted on a graph and a classic
sine wave will emerge. It is a natural way of life to fluctuate from
on extreme to the other.

Thomas Retzlaff (Naturist)