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Jason Clarke

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Feb 20, 2002, 5:52:30 AM2/20/02
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Is there such a thing as a dedicated server for this game?


C0lbz0r

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Feb 20, 2002, 5:55:14 AM2/20/02
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Yes, battle.net

Harry The Horse.

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Thanks,
C0lbz0r
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Jason Clarke

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Feb 20, 2002, 5:55:39 AM2/20/02
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Thankyou..

Now, for some one who's not toolish.


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Steven Spencer

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Feb 20, 2002, 6:06:23 AM2/20/02
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he wasn't
the only "dedicated" server is run by blizzard simply because ppl could hax
and not have cd keys but play on the inet
there are ways around it but my point remains

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Malthius

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Feb 20, 2002, 6:33:41 AM2/20/02
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Sure there is (I love it when people just type without the facts.)

The whole thing can be found through www.bnetd.org. bnetd provides the
battle.net part of the show - the chat stuff and the game front end. For
Diablo, you also need to download another program (find the link on the
site) to host the "realm".

The only problem is that the back end that hosts the realm only runs on
Win32 OS's right now, so ISP's aren't interested. As it stands, it would be
legal for GameArena to run one of these servers, but it might be a bit
contentious.

Anyway - there was you "non toolish" answer.

Malth.

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Jason Clarke

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Feb 20, 2002, 7:39:11 AM2/20/02
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Awesome stuff..

I'd heard of it, but not known what it is.

Tah :-)

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spagNamo|i

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Feb 20, 2002, 11:09:22 PM2/20/02
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good luck getting gamearena to run a win32 server for any game.

spag


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Shaetano

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Feb 20, 2002, 11:58:35 PM2/20/02
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cos you can get more out of linux

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David Harrison

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Feb 21, 2002, 12:11:41 AM2/21/02
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We have heaps of win32 servers

--trog


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David Harrison

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Feb 21, 2002, 12:13:19 AM2/21/02
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Bewm:

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/21/0136256&mode=thread&tid=127

--trog

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David Harrison

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Feb 21, 2002, 12:12:26 AM2/21/02
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We have several win32 servers, its when they're win32 in combination with
other stupid things that causes the problem.

I know everyone wants a mohaa server, but please try and remember that it'd
be a lot easier if they removed some of their stupid restrictions on the
server software.


--trog


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spagNamo|i

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Feb 21, 2002, 12:36:06 AM2/21/02
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hmm ok :-) just tired of playing on the NZ gameplanet one.

what restrictions are there? i havent tried to run a server yet.. seems
slack on EA's part not to make one seeing as its based on the Q3 engine.

shouldnt the registered wireplay/gamearena users get to vote for what
servers there are? that would also encourage more people to register.


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David Harrison

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Feb 21, 2002, 1:14:09 AM2/21/02
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> what restrictions are there? i havent tried to run a server yet.. seems
> slack on EA's part not to make one seeing as its based on the Q3 engine.

Need a CD in the drive, which is a logistal difficulty. Servers just don't
have CDROMs, and we can't just walk into a server room to put a CD in there.

> shouldnt the registered wireplay/gamearena users get to vote for what
> servers there are? that would also encourage more people to register.

I've been tossing up an idea like that for some time, but basically I think
we'd see an overwhelming response for CS that would require some tweaking of
the figures anyway. The games that are there are chosen based on a variety
of factors, and I think we've got a pretty good mix and ratio of servers.


Rod Prince

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Feb 21, 2002, 1:33:51 AM2/21/02
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In article <Re0d8.10722$Uy2....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
tr...@qgl.org says...

> Servers just don't have CDROMs

Strange. Seen exceptionally few without one.

Cheers,
Rod.

spagNamo|i

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Feb 21, 2002, 1:49:00 AM2/21/02
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yeah i agree. having to have the CDrom in the drive is a issue if the server
doesnt have a cdrom drive.

not being a wise-ass but i havent seen a server without a cdrom drive for
years though. how new is the gear you guys are running? its hard to get in
there when the doors are probably locked as well ;-p

how receptive are the server admins as to your influence over which types of
servers are up and running?

If the CD sat in there all the time it wouldnt be an issue really. Im sure
if enough of us contacted EA they would create a patch to allow server
admins to run servers without the CD in...

and yer, i agree the server mix is.. pretty good. do you think therell be a
c&c server proper?

spag


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David Harrison

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Feb 21, 2002, 2:05:22 AM2/21/02
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> not being a wise-ass but i havent seen a server without a cdrom drive for
> years though. how new is the gear you guys are running? its hard to get in
> there when the doors are probably locked as well ;-p

I dont even know if they have CDRom drives, I just assume they don't becuase
I dont know why they would need one, actually. Only _really stupid games_
require the CD in the drive to run a dedicated server.

> how receptive are the server admins as to your influence over which types
of
> servers are up and running?

somewhat

> If the CD sat in there all the time it wouldnt be an issue really. Im sure
> if enough of us contacted EA they would create a patch to allow server
> admins to run servers without the CD in...

ha

> and yer, i agree the server mix is.. pretty good. do you think therell be
a
> c&c server proper?

prolly, demo seems to be pretty popular. As long as they dont do anything
stupid with it.


David Harrison

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Feb 21, 2002, 2:05:22 AM2/21/02
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That was meant as a single statement, not a generalisation about servers in
general.


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spagNamo|i

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Feb 21, 2002, 2:18:36 AM2/21/02
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ha

well lets get together and send EA an email, explain the situation, where it
will be used and who the users are etc etc

spag


Rod Prince

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Feb 21, 2002, 2:19:41 AM2/21/02
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In article <S_0d8.10861$Uy2....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
tr...@qgl.org says...

> I dont even know if they have CDRom drives, I just assume they don't becuase
> I dont know why they would need one, actually. Only _really stupid games_
> require the CD in the drive to run a dedicated server.

If we're talking about Telstra's servers then the majority of them I
have seen are Compaq servers (on the Intel base anyway), being that it's
a Compaq server, you'd have to be exceptionally stupid to have one
without a CDROM. The few Digital boxes left there also have a CDROM and
the HP servers I've seen in Teltra also have CDROMS.

Understand your point though, inconvenient to be running a gameserver
on a managed site with the game CD installed. I was under the impression
that most games these days that are running on servers don't require
the CD inserted (but that's based on the experience of running no
dedicated game servers whatsoever)

The reason you'd need one on a server would be to install the operating
system innitially (yes, I am aware you can do it through the network
but very few sites do it this way). Only 1 Compaq server I know doesn't
come standard with a CDROM and that's a DL320 and that's likely only
because it was overlooked by marketing or in an effort to lower the
price a smidge.

Cheers,
Rod.

Malthius

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Feb 21, 2002, 2:28:27 AM2/21/02
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Bugger. I was hoping for big things from these guys.

Oh well, just another reason to hate the DMCA I guess.

Ta for the heads up trog.


I was going to start another "give us a bnetd" server thread at some stage.


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Malthius

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Feb 21, 2002, 3:21:24 AM2/21/02
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Heh..

"yes, I am aware you can do it through the network but very few sites do it
this way"

Actually, it makes sense to have a standard network build if you are working
with a large number of servers. Also, in future, very few servers are
likely to have direct access to a CD-ROM drive - the new "blade" servers are
optimum density, which is something that a corp like Telstra is very keen
on. One of the first things to do is dump the 1 CD-ROM per server idea...


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Rod Prince

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Feb 21, 2002, 3:29:13 AM2/21/02
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In article <862d8.11023$Uy2....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
bco...@bigpond.net.au says...

> Actually, it makes sense to have a standard network build if you are working
> with a large number of servers.

It does make sense if it's done properly.

A network install, yes. A 'ghosted' image, no. Sadly, most sites that
I have seen that do a standard network build use a ghost image over a
network install, then complain when it falls over.

The only negative to it is the loss of installed vendor tools that a
standard network build often misses out on.

Cheers,
Rod.

Malthius

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Feb 21, 2002, 8:19:39 AM2/21/02
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Mmm,

Sounds like you do this for a living... Compaq ASE perhaps?

Malth.


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Rod Prince

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In article <Lt6d8.11957$Uy2....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
bco...@bigpond.net.au says...

> Sounds like you do this for a living... Compaq ASE perhaps?

I'm an ASE because I have to repair them for Compaq onsite for
a living. Telstra Bigpond is one of the sites I look after.
Only at a hardware level though, but often it's a very grey area.

Cheers,
Rod.

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