How do I setup BigBlueButton with windows azure?

[Richard Zhao]

Hi,

Since there is no ubuntu server 10.04 image in the windows azure gallery, I was told by the customer service to create a vhd file myself. But how do I do that? Has anyone done that before?

Thanks!

[HostBBB.com]

Richard,  2 options.

 

1) Get everything working in VMPLAYER first on your PC, then export that custom image to upload to azure.

 

2) Mount a virtual CD-ROM if option available,  get the official UBUNTU ISO and use this to install the OS on azure.

    Make sure you install  OpenSSH and minimum Ubuntu 10.04LTS 64BIT.

    Once this is working, following the standard install procedures for .81

 

Regards,

Stephen

hostbbb.com

[Richard Zhao]

Thanks Stephen. I'll try them out.

About the first option, you mean I setup everything including the OS and BBB then upload the image?

[RTz]

Hi Richard,

how did it go ? 

Can you please share your experience. It will be very useful. 

Thanks.

[Richard Zhao]

Sorry, I didn't get it running. I was able to upload the image I created with VMware, but there were several tools need to be installed for Aszure to support this OS before uploading which I couldn't find anywhere. So finally I gave up trying. But if anyone here can make it please share it here, that would be so much helpful!

[RTz]

Unfortunately it didn't work for me too, despite taking few efforts.

Few things i tried ... 

• http://content-ppe.windowsazure.com/en-us/manage/linux/how-to-guides/prepare-a-linux-distribution/#nonendorsed
• Enabling HyperV modules
• Update the Boot Loader Configuration - http://utlemmingtoo.blogspot.in/2012/12/windows-azure-1204-and-1210-updates.html
• Updated to use latest lucid server kernel 64bit
• Note:  Azure Linux Agent doesn't support - Ubuntu 10.04 https://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/manage/linux/how-to-guides/linux-agent-guide/

My BBB Ubuntu 10.04 64Bit VHD works great on Local HyperV. But not on Azure :(

Unwillingly now have to explore ready to deploy OpenMeetings - https://vmdepot.msopentech.com/Vhd/Show?vhdId=5568&version=5604

Hoping BigBlueButton Team will come up with something soon :) 

Thanks.

[Fred Dixon]

Hi Ritvik,

> Hoping BigBlueButton Team will come up with something soon

We're working on a Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit installation for the next release, which is supported by Azure.

Regards,... Fred

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[RTz]

Hi Fred,

I know it would be difficult to give timeline for next release. But want to know if it be happening in next 2-3 months?

Kindly consider ready to deploy VM's for cloud (Azure & Amazon)for next release.

Thanks

[Fred Dixon]

Hi RTz,

We're just starting another development cycle with BigBlueButton.  If you've followed our last release, you know we release on quality, not dates.

See

  https://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/FAQ#BigBlueButton_Development_Process

The release cycle for 0.80 was sixteen months.  The release cycle for 0.81 was fourteen months.  Both releases went through extensive testing the final version was released.

At the recent BigBlueButton Developer Summit we outlined the features planned for the next release (tentatively named 0.9.0). 

You can see it at

  http://bigbluebutton.org/2013/11/05/bigbluebutton-summit-iii-recordings/

Watch the Project Update video around 42:30 mark and you can see our PRELIMINARY plans for the next release.  These plans (which may change) are:

Planned:

  - Start/stop button for recordings

  - Additional feedback on audio settings

  - Ubuntu 12.04 packaging

  - Latest version of red5

Consideration

  - Polling module

  - Additional control over user settings

Additional feedback on audio settings: make it harder for a new user to join without selecting an active microphone.

Additional control over user settings: give moderator more control over what lock/unlock means for a viewer.  Today, lock means "viewers cannot unmute themselves", but it could mean any one of the following (true/false)

   - viewer can unmute

   - viewer can share webcam

   - viewer can private chat

   - viewer can public chat

This would enable the moderator to significantly restrict what a currnet (and new) viewers can/can not do in a session, making it possible to lock down new viewers so they are participating more in a webinar presentation (imagine setting all the above options to false, then engaging a 'lock all' capability).

We'll spec out these plans more in the next few weeks.  

Again, we're not planning another year-long development cycle.   Will it be in 2-3 months?  Not likely.  When we release the next version of BigBlueButton, our goal is to always increase the quality of the release compared to the previous.  

Regards,... Fred

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[Dirk Verboom]

I also was unable to get it running using a VHD and would be like a good example of how to do this because the Azure process of importing VHD's is not the most straight forward.

I was however able to get it running quite well on 12.04 on Azure, which I know is not the recommended operating system. But it seems to run fine with no issues so far. With all functions that I require working

- Video

- Audio

- Chat

- Whiteboard

- Document Upload

- Recording

- Playback

[RTz]

Hi Dirk Verboom,

Can you please share your VHD.

-thanks.

[Ritvik]

If possible share it with VMDepot http://vmdepot.msopentech.com/Vhd/Index?

http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/manage/linux/how-to-guides/capture-an-image/

-Thanks

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[RTz]

If possible share it with VMDepot http://vmdepot.msopentech.com/Vhd/Index?

http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/manage/linux/how-to-guides/capture-an-image/

-Thanks

[Dirk Verboom]

Hi I dont have  a version that I can share at the moment.  As we have customized it to suit.

I do have a list of commands for Ubuntu 12.04, a lot of which were posted by another user https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bigbluebutton-dev/cIGUQBLiSoU

1. Create VM Ubuntu 12.04 set your end points to TCP 80, 9123 , and 1935
2. wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libf/libffi/libffi5_3.0.9-1_amd64.deb
3. sudo dpkg -i libffi5_3.0.9-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
4. sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev libssl-dev libreadline-dev libyaml-dev build-essential bison checkinstall libffi5 gcc checkinstall libreadline5 libyaml-0-2
6. sudo apt-get install libgmp3c2
7. cd /tmp
8. wget http://free.nchc.org.tw/ubuntu//pool/main/m/mpfr/libmpfr1ldbl_2.4.2-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb
9. sudo dpkg -i ./libmpfr1ldbl_2.4.2-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb
10. sudo apt-get install ruby
11. sudo apt-get install rubygems
12. sudo gem install cucumber -v '0.7.15' -- --with-cflags=-w
    
13. sudo gem install cucumber -v '0.9.2' -- --with-cflags=-w 
    
14. Then install bigbluebutton with the instructions given
15. Then you will probably get an issue with a broken package when "bbb-conf --check" 
16. sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
17. sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
18. sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.8
19. Make sure to set your ip   bbb-conf --setip "your public ip address on the azure dashboard" because otherwise it will be set to your internal. This will keep coming up when you run the bbb-conf --check that your IP address does not match but you can disregard it.

Thats all I have at the moment, just kept some notes in a text file. Sorry about the slow reply, work has been pretty hectic.