Re: [bigbluebutton-dev] Jitsi vs Bugbluebutton

[Fred Dixon]

Hi Arun,

I'm the product manager for BigBlueButton.

Jitsi and BigBlueButton are two open source conferencing systems.  Jitsi is very strong on video conferencing and, over time has added more collaborative components, such as raise hand.  BigBlueButton is focused on on-line learning and on enabling the presenter to collaborate with users.  As such, we put a lot of emphasis on interaction and engagement (such as multi-user whiteboard and breakout rooms).

We have been moving BigBlueButton from a Flash-based client to HTML5 client.  Jitsi is pure HTML5.  For video, Jitsi uses Jitsi video bridge whereas BigBlueButton uses Kurento.  Both Jitsi video bridge and Kurento are selective forwarding units (SFU), which means they pass through the video packets.  This is similar to how red5 works for the Flash clients.

We're very impressed with Jitsi and their video capabilities.  We aspire to do as well as they do in video conferencing:-).

Both are platforms are open source on which others can build their own collaborative capabilities.   Both are under active development.  We recommend that anyone interested to check out both platforms and see which one best meets their needs.

Regards,... Fred

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 12:41 PM Arun Sahani <sahan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jitsi seems befter than bigbuebutton....

have anybody tried it

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[German Acevedo]

Hi Arun,

Both are great systems!

We have used Jitsi and other very similar product named Spreed (https://www.spreed.me) mainly for business meetings.

For educational purposes we are clear that BigBlueButton is our best choice, even when the transition to html5 is on the way and stills missing some functions like a shared video player for example.

BigBlueButton is easily integrated with LMS systems like Moodle (our favorite), Chamilo and Canvas. The recording capabilites of BigBlueButton are greately appreciated by our teachers and students.

With Jitsi and Spreed the integrations with LMS systems are not ready, and you need to rely on screen recording or YouTube to save the sessions, and that way is too complicated for teachers.

Hope this helps you.

Regards,

German

[Kirk Pathumanun]

Let just say both are great that I actually port BBB Whiteboard and embed it the Jitsi Open Document Tab for real-time Whiteboard. BBB is renowned on usage and infrastructure capability. But as for HTML5 feature BBB has a lot of catching up to do with Jitsi.

Regards,

Kirk

[neeraj]

@Kirk, how did you port the BBB whiteboard to Jitsi? Is that anything you make publicly available? I run an education non-profit to provide tutoring for underserved youth and for our tutoring, we plan on using BBB once the HTML5 version is released with a couple more features. But I'd love to see Jitsi with the BBB whiteboard in action. 

[Kirk Pathumanun]

Hello,

It's not hard really if you have some developmental background here are the list of concept that you can probably implement on your own as follow:

instead of embedding etherpad with etherdraw as this instruction on Jitisi you would create an API or a frontend link generation like something as simple as Greenlight with guest enabled. Here are the instructions for the etherpad on jitsit https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/wiki/Etherpad-addition-example

Modify the following to /etc/jitsi/meet/chat.exemple.net-config.js

      etherpad_base: 'https://chat.exemple.net/etherpad/p/',
 (instead of etherpad link you just create a BBB link via greenlight and the session would auto generate room that link with each other on the whiteboard. As stated this is a quick and dirty way to implement the BBB whiteboard on Jitsi 
However if you know who to integrated the API that would be the best route to follow as we did. 

The reason we used BBB whiteboard on Jitsi because we actually had a business requirement where the teachers need to teach phonics and primary language level to kids and YES BBB UI is not exactly "kids friendly"

Hope this would help to you.

Regards,

Kirj

[Bijoy M.G]

Arun,

Yes I've tried , I started working in videoconferencing fields about 19 years.

2011 ,I 've installed BBB and started using it, that time we had difficulty in the audio lag,but over a period of continuous developmet they made a perfect solution which is very easy (no installation difficulty)to use and the quality of the video also so good.Now BBB come oout with HTML5 version also.I'm still using it.

I've also installed Jitsi,works fine for videoconferencing part, but I'm not sure about the collaboration tools which is a part of BBB.

Sorry to Fred as I keep on updating your development but never given a feed back.usually I adjust with what I have.Thanks Fred and team for this amazing product which is core in my business

Bijoy

On Fri 28 Sep, 2018, 10:11 PM Arun Sahani, <sahan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jitsi seems befter than bigbuebutton....

have anybody tried it

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[Fred Dixon]

Hi Bijoy,

> Thanks Fred and team for this amazing product which is core in my business

Thanks man for the feedback!  There is so much ahead for us as we redouble our efforts to build out the HTML5 version and make it better than the Flash version for collaboration. 

I'm just one guy in a team of very dedicated developers, see

  http://docs.bigbluebutton.org/support/faq.html#bigbluebutton-committer

and

  https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton/graphs/contributors

We're working towards closing the game of functionality in the HTML5 version and the Flash version.  Once we do that, it will be pure HTML5 all the way.

Regards,... Fred

[jossef]

Hi Fred

> We're working towards closing the game of functionality in the HTML5 version and the Flash version. 

Flash version is very Stable with very good audio and video performance for a large number of participants.

Still hoping that the option to sync YouTube will be added to it.

Promises it's the last time I'm nagging about this feature  :)

Yossi

בתאריך יום ראשון, 30 בספטמבר 2018 בשעה 16:32:09 UTC+3, מאת Fred Dixon:

[Fred Dixon]

Hi Jossef,

> Still hoping that the option to sync YouTube will be added to it.

> Promises it's the last time I'm nagging about this feature  :)

We are still going to implement this feature -- and right now it's looking like there is a better chance to see it land in the HTML5 client.

Still, you will see this capability in the future!

Regards,... Fred