USER FEEDBACK WANTED: listing entities in the specification

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Remi Gau

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Apr 28, 2021, 1:18:32 PM4/28/21
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Hey everyone,

There is a open pull request that might change a bit how the specification will look: https://github.com/bids-standard/bids-specification/pull/781

In practice a mini table would be added below each template for the filenames, to list all the possible entities for that data type and mention if that entity is required or not.

Pro:

It is reusing some of the tables that already exist in the appendix, but adds them next to each filename template.

Con:

It adds cluttering sometimes with small tables: see here.

https://bids-specification--781.org.readthedocs.build/en/781/04-modality-specific-files/03-electroencephalography.html#eeg-recording-data

And sometimes big tables: see here

https://bids-specification--781.org.readthedocs.build/en/781/04-modality-specific-files/01-magnetic-resonance-imaging-data.html#anatomy-imaging-data


The maintainers would be curious to hear the thoughts of the "users" of the BIDS specification, regarding if this kind of visual / structure change to the spec would be welcome or would add more confusion. Feel free to chime in the pull request: https://github.com/bids-standard/bids-specification/pull/781

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Dr Cyril, Pernet

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Apr 28, 2021, 1:55:56 PM4/28/21
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-1 for me ; tables with what is optional, required, recommended already exist, this simply reiterates (may times) and clutter

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Remi Gau

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Apr 28, 2021, 3:47:13 PM4/28/21
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For context: one thing I forgot to mention is that one of the motivation for having those tables, would be to facilitate linking to the definitions of the entities that might otherwise be "harder" to access (readers would have to know where to look for them in the appendix).

Ideally we would prefer to be able to embed the hyperlinks to the definitions directly in the filename templates, but this seems not possible at the moment.

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Thomas Nichols

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Apr 29, 2021, 4:39:15 AM4/29/21
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I too am with Cyril and think these tables add a lot of clutter.  

And, as another reason, these big tables are looking pretty mugly in the PDF version, and will be more of an eyesore if moved into the body text.

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Vince D Calhoun

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Apr 29, 2021, 6:54:59 AM4/29/21
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I agree with cyril and tom, seems not worth the extra clutter.

 

Btw (tangent) some of the tables in the spec are getting a bit messy and some of the headers overlap and cannot be read (cf pg 176 in the 1.6 spec).

 

Best,

 

Vince

 

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Chris Markiewicz

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Apr 29, 2021, 8:51:59 AM4/29/21
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Hi all,

As Vince pointed out, the table formatting in the PDF often doesn't work nicely, since the LaTeX is generated from the Markdown source document.

If anybody has expertise in generating LaTeX tables from external sources that generally look good (or at least readable), we could use some help here.

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Chris

Dan Lurie

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Apr 29, 2021, 11:35:01 AM4/29/21
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+1 to what Tom, Cyril and Vince have said. 

That said, I really like the idea of automatically hyperlinking to definitions from the file name templates (though understand that's not an option at this point; maybe something to aim for in the future)

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