Rear wheel not centered - is this OK?

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ItsFred

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Feb 24, 2010, 7:25:29 PM2/24/10
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I just noticed that the rear wheel on my road bike is around 3-4mm
closer to the drive-side chainstay than the non-drive-side. I think
the frame is straight and true and the wheel is a normal Velocity with
Ultegra hubs (built by Peter himself). So, is this unusual? What would
I need to do to center the wheel? The reason this matters is that I'd
like to mount Riv RolyPoly 28's and there' precious little clearance
on the drive side. Appreciate the group's help and feedback...

chuck davis

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Feb 24, 2010, 7:57:50 PM2/24/10
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Dish o.k.?
 
Wheel centered behind seat tube?


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richard deandrea

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Feb 24, 2010, 8:10:48 PM2/24/10
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It can be one of 3 problems;
 
1. the wheel is not dished properly.
2. the frame is out of alignment.
3. the dropouts are not lined up perfectly.
 
When standing behind the bike is the wheel straight, in the same plane as the seat tube, or is it cocked to one side?
 
Rich

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Horace

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Feb 24, 2010, 11:59:06 PM2/24/10
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Fourth possibility:

If the bike has horizontal dropouts, the wheel might not be installed straight in the frame, and it would be a simple fix to re-align it.


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Peter Jon White

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Feb 25, 2010, 1:00:52 AM2/25/10
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There are a few things to check. First, reverse the wheel in the frame
and see if it's still off to the same side or if it's now off to the
other side. If the rim is not centered on the axle the rim will now be
closer to the left chainstay. If the frame is out of alignment, the
rim will always be off to the right. On the other hand, it could be a
bent axle. So loosen the skewer and rotate the axle with the wheel in
place. If the axle is bent, the wheel will move side to side between
the chainstays and seatstays with every rotation of the axle. If the
dropouts aren't parallel, as you tighten the skewer to alignment of
the rim will change as the misaligned dropout causes the stays to flex
to one side or the other. And as Horace writes, if you have horizontal
dropouts, it could simply be the adjusting screws.

N8N

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Feb 25, 2010, 8:44:05 AM2/25/10
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Indeed. I ran into this issue on my Trek and ended up replacing the
skewer with an old chromed steel Dura-Ace one, no problems since.
However, I had the opposite problem to the OP; when riding, the tire
would move to the NDS chainstay due to the force on the cassette, and
I suspect if that were the OP's issue his would be off similarly.

nate

On Feb 24, 11:59 pm, Horace <max...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> Fourth possibility:
>
> If the bike has horizontal dropouts, the wheel might not be installed
> straight in the frame, and it would be a simple fix to re-align it.
>

> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:10 PM, richard deandrea <richde...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > It can be one of 3 problems;
>
> > 1. the wheel is not dished properly.
> > 2. the frame is out of alignment.
> > 3. the dropouts are not lined up perfectly.
>
> > When standing behind the bike is the wheel straight, in the same plane as
> > the seat tube, or is it cocked to one side?
>
> > Rich
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> > Subject: {BL} Rear wheel not centered - is this OK?
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> > Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 7:25 PM
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> > I just noticed that the rear wheel on my road bike is around 3-4mm
> > closer to the drive-side chainstay than the non-drive-side. I think
> > the frame is straight and true and the wheel is a normal Velocity with
> > Ultegra hubs (built by Peter himself). So, is this unusual? What would
> > I need to do to center the wheel? The reason this matters is that I'd
> > like to mount Riv RolyPoly 28's and there' precious little clearance
> > on the drive side. Appreciate the group's help and feedback...
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ItsFred

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Feb 25, 2010, 4:24:37 PM2/25/10
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Well thanks everybody for the troubleshooting suggestions.

I flipped the wheel backwards as Peter suggested and it favored the
other side. So tried a different wheel and I found it had less side-to-
side imbalance but it was still not centered. I noticed a lot of
movement in the chainstays as I tightened the skewers so now I'm
thinking that something might have gotten a little twisted somewhere
along the way. By the way this is a titanium bike with S&S couplers,
and it's been around the world a FEW times, so anything might've
happened in transit. I think next stop will be Brownsburg Indiana,
home of the friendly welders at Roark Fabrication.

Fred

Peter Jon White

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Feb 26, 2010, 11:16:30 AM2/26/10
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That is consistent with the wheel not being dished correctly. Send it
back to us and we'll fix it. Or if the wheel is otherwise true and
round, give me a call and I can talk you through centering the rim.
It's actually quite easy.

NickBull

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Feb 26, 2010, 12:52:26 PM2/26/10
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"a lot of movement in the chainstays" ... Cracked chainstay? A few
years ago, my bicycle just wouldn't hold a gear properly and I
adjusted the derailleur and put new cables and housings on and cleaned
the BB area, etc., all with no effect. Then in deep frustration at
yet another phantom shift I decided the heck with the danger, I'm
going to ride while looking at the rear derailleur to see what is
going on. Out of the corner of my eye, I noticed a gap in the
chainstay about an inch behind the BB. When I was pedaling, the gap
would close, but as soon as I coasted, it would open again. Without
any weight on the bike, the gap closed up again and was invisible. It
was an aluminum frame.

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Peter Leiss

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Feb 26, 2010, 6:29:50 PM2/26/10
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Hi all,

You were lucky to have caught that although having a chain stay let go usually just means the wheel rubs the other chain stay and you can't ride well not very fast anyway. As far as the wheel problem I agree with Peter it is probably a wheel dish issue. Any decent bike shop should be able to tell you with a simple check if this the wheel dish.

Peter

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