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Jun 19, 2013, 9:37:04 AM6/19/13
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Hello,

I am Zac Painter, a Contractor at the US EPA Office of Research and Development. We are in the process of implementing the VIVO expertise application at ORD, and we have come across a question regarding the bibo ontology as it relates to the data we are putting into the system.

We have a document named “Use of Environmental Challenges in Behavioral-Toxicology”, which was published in the journal Federation Proceedings. This journal has changed its name to The FASEB Journal. We have asserted that this item is both an Academic Article (due to its publication in a journal) and a Conference Proceedings (since this journal is a collection of conference proceedings). But, because Proceedings is an inferred class of Book, the document is also asserted as a Book by extension of merely being a Proceeding.

The Thompson Reuters Web of Science has a section to filter document types, and we have used their services to populate our VIVO instance. If you filter for solely Journal Articles, you will receive a few Proceedings Papers and Book Chapters if those things are listed as both. We have a number of scientists at ORD for whom this is the case.

Below is a listing of discussions I have found on the subject. The most recent one is from 2010, so I am wondering if further discussion on this topic has occurred since.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/bibliographic-ontology-specification-group/proceedings$20book/bibliographic-ontology-specification-group/2BX9ig_xyh4/ZL_qZiozEnkJ

https://issues.library.cornell.edu/browse/VIVOONT-271?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel

Essentially, I would like to know why Proceedings is listed as a subclass of Book in the bibo ontology.

Thanks.

Bruce D'Arcus

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Jun 19, 2013, 9:50:13 AM6/19/13
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Hi Zac.

Quick question below ...

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM, <zpai...@ordweb.epa.gov> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am Zac Painter, a Contractor at the US EPA Office of Research and Development. We are in the process of implementing the VIVO expertise application at ORD, and we have come across a question regarding the bibo ontology as it relates to the data we are putting into the system.
>
> We have a document named “Use of Environmental Challenges in Behavioral-Toxicology”, which was published in the journal Federation Proceedings. This journal has changed its name to The FASEB Journal. We have asserted that this item is both an Academic Article (due to its publication in a journal) and a Conference Proceedings (since this journal is a collection of conference proceedings).

Hang on; this isn't making sense to me.

I don't think you want to say the item is a proceeding; you may want
to say (if it's possible; that's a separate question) the containing
publication (the journal) is though.

Right?

Bruce

> But, because Proceedings is an inferred class of Book, the document is also asserted as a Book by extension of merely being a Proceeding.
>
> The Thompson Reuters Web of Science has a section to filter document types, and we have used their services to populate our VIVO instance. If you filter for solely Journal Articles, you will receive a few Proceedings Papers and Book Chapters if those things are listed as both. We have a number of scientists at ORD for whom this is the case.
>
> Below is a listing of discussions I have found on the subject. The most recent one is from 2010, so I am wondering if further discussion on this topic has occurred since.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/bibliographic-ontology-specification-group/proceedings$20book/bibliographic-ontology-specification-group/2BX9ig_xyh4/ZL_qZiozEnkJ
>
> https://issues.library.cornell.edu/browse/VIVOONT-271?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel
>
> Essentially, I would like to know why Proceedings is listed as a subclass of Book in the bibo ontology.
>
> Thanks.
>
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zpai...@ordweb.epa.gov

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Jun 19, 2013, 11:30:48 AM6/19/13
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Hang on; this isn't making sense to me. 

I don't think you want to say the item is a proceeding; you may want
to say (if it's possible; that's a separate question) the containing
publication (the journal) is though.

Right?

Bruce

Bruce,

In my mind, the Journal is the whole. This whole is composed of various parts. These various parts are all Proceedings. So, the individual Article within the Journal is a Proceeding.

VIVO allows for items to be asserted in multiple formats. Since this is an Academic Article from a Journal, we would like to assert it as an Academic Article. However, this Article is a Proceeding from a conference. These things are not mutually exclusive, and so we would like to assert the item as both. Our problem is that the item in question does not belong to a Book in any way (since Academic Article is a separate class from Book under Document) , yet in the bibo ontology the class Proceedings is an inferred class of Book.

The VIVO Ontology has pre-defined an ontology under bibo:Article named vivo:Conference Paper. But the definition of vivo:Conference Paper (A paper presented at a conference; optionally collected into a Proceedings or a special Journal issue) does not fit our example as well as bibo:Proceedings (A compilation of documents published from an event, such as a conference).

Does that clarify our situation?

Thanks.

ljgarcia

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Jun 22, 2013, 3:15:19 AM6/22/13
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Hi Zac, Bruce, 

I think I understand what Bruce means and I agree, a single article cannot be a bibo:Proceedings but the journal could, it comes from the definition of bibo:Proceedings, @Zac, you have it on your last email "bibo:Proceedings (A compilation of documents published from an event, such as a conference)". So, you cannot say that a single article is a compilation of documents.

A bibo:Journal is a periodical collection, as the conference happens once a year, it makes sense to also say that some bibo:Journal is also a bibo:Proceedings. A bibo:Journal hasPart only bibo:Document, and a bibo:AcademicArticle is a bibo:Document so it is fine. I did not see any disjoint condition between bibo:Collection and bibo:Document so it seems fine to have the proceedings as proceedings but also as journal.

Cheers,
LJ
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