Citing from non-Documents

[Tomasz Pluskiewicz]

Hi

Please help me with a idea. Let's assume I have a database about a specific topic. I my case those will be buses. For example there could be triples:

:Volvo_B10 a :City_Bus; :length 11

Now I would like to state that the above is based on information from a specific book. Let's say:

<urn:isbn:3907153251> a bibo:Book; bibo:title "Volvo-Busse - seit 1928"

I looked at bibo:cites but that would imply bus:Volvo_B10 is a document which isn't true.

What is a good way of doing this? Would I add additional statements with :Volvo_B10 as subject or maybe refication is the way to go?

Regards,
Tomasz

[Bruce D'Arcus]

I can say bibo:cites isn't appropriate, since it's about documents rather than statements.

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[Christopher Gutteridge]

Perhaps; which makes the target of the citation an "Endeavour". " A class whose members are any of the products of artistic or creative endeavour. This class represents any one of the FRBR group one entities."

Property: biro:references

URI: http://purl.org/spar/biro/references

references - The relation between a bibliographic record or a bibliographic reference and the publication being referenced.

Inverse:

http://purl.org/spar/biro/isReferencedBy

OWL Type:

ObjectProperty

sub-property-of:

owl:topObjectProperty

Domain:

http://purl.org/spar/biro/BibliographicRecord

http://purl.org/spar/biro/BibliographicReference

Range:

http://purl.org/vocab/frbr/core#Endeavour

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[Bruce D'Arcus]

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Christopher Gutteridge
<c...@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> Perhaps; which makes the target of the citation an "Endeavour". " A class
> whose members are any of the products of artistic or creative endeavour.
> This class represents any one of the FRBR group one entities."
>
> Property: biro:references
>
> URI: http://purl.org/spar/biro/references
>
> references - The relation between a bibliographic record or a bibliographic
> reference and the publication being referenced.

But just stepping back and thinking what we mean by citing and
referencing in scholarly documents (which cite:refernces and
biro:references are based on), the focus is really on an author,
through the document they create, publicly declaring the provenance of
an idea or fact within that document. I wonder if that's exactly what
the OP is after?

Bruce

[Jakob Voss]

Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

> But just stepping back and thinking what we mean by citing and
> referencing in scholarly documents (which cite:refernces and
> biro:references are based on), the focus is really on an author,
> through the document they create, publicly declaring the provenance of
> an idea or fact within that document. I wonder if that's exactly what
> the OP is after?

Citation has been studied first and deeply by Eugene Garfield. He and
other researchers found many forms and means of citations, for instance
to refer to a statement that you intend to disprove - in this case the
citation relationship may mean the contrary to what Tomasz wants to express.

Tomasz wrote:

> :Volvo_B10 a :City_Bus; :length 11
>
> Now I would like to state that the above is based on information from
> a specific book. Let's say:
>

> <urn:isbn:3907153251> a bibo:Book; bibo:title "Volvo-Busse- seit 1928"

>
> I looked at bibo:cites but that would imply bus:Volvo_B10 is a
> document which isn't true.
>
> What is a good way of doing this? Would I add additional statements
> with :Volvo_B10 as subject or maybe refication is the way to go?

You use case looks more like refication than referencing or citation.
However there are many forms of reification beside "traditional" RDF
reification:

http://answers.semanticweb.com/questions/2398/which-type-of-reification-do-you-use

Cheers
Jakob

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