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Bruce D'Arcus

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Jun 2, 2011, 7:15:27 PM6/2/11
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FYI:

<http://schema.org/>

They have some support for citation/bibliographic-related content, but
it's very incomplete (and man I hate some of the design decision in
HTML5/microdata; the itemscope attribute is just heinous).

<http://schema.org/CreativeWork>

Still, for those that are interested in RDFa, this ought to be easy
enough to also support. And one could always extend it with some
properties from BIBO.

Bruce

Bruce D'Arcus

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Jun 3, 2011, 8:21:50 AM6/3/11
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Just as a followup, is there anything we want to do in response? One
option, for example, is to add (at least some) missing types and
properties as extension to the schema.org vocabs?

Frederick Giasson

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Jun 7, 2011, 12:47:59 PM6/7/11
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Hi Bruce!

> Just as a followup, is there anything we want to do in response? One
> option, for example, is to add (at least some) missing types and
> properties as extension to the schema.org vocabs?

I am not sure I would care about any of this. In fact, this schema
describes their world view; what they system is able to mine as
information and such. Let's link to what is linkable, and forget about
the rest.

At the end, it won't make sense for them to add missing types if they
don't know, and can't do, anything about these types. Again, it is their
own worldviews :)


At least, these are my thoughts about this subject.

Thanks,

Fred

Bruce D'Arcus

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Jun 7, 2011, 12:50:03 PM6/7/11
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I agree; we'd be better off just documenting better how to use BIBO as RDFa.

Bruce

Frederick Giasson

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Jun 7, 2011, 12:51:28 PM6/7/11
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Hi!

> I agree; we'd be better off just documenting better how to use BIBO as RDFa.

That is my thought too.

Thanks!


Fred

Bruce D'Arcus

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Jun 7, 2011, 1:06:00 PM6/7/11
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On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Frederick Giasson <fr...@fgiasson.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> I agree; we'd be better off just documenting better how to use BIBO as
>> RDFa.
>
> That is my thought too.

I put up a repo on github if people are interested in this.

<https://github.com/bdarcus/bibo-rdfa-examples>

Am in a hurry, but my idea is a repo of little fragments based on a
standard form.

If there's interest, we can talk details later.

Bruce

Bruce D'Arcus

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Jun 7, 2011, 7:28:57 PM6/7/11
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Alright, I added the start of a skeleton examples.md document, basic
structure encoded in markdown, but using the github infrastructure to
render it and do syntax-highlighting.

<https://github.com/bdarcus/bibo-rdfa-examples/blob/master/index.md>

If we make progress with this, we can later publish it using the
github pages support, which gives us templating (and with that,
javascript, CSS, etc.).

BTW, you can fork, edit and issue a pull request directly from the
github HTML pages using the "edit this file" link.

Bruce

Bruce D'Arcus

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Jun 8, 2011, 10:49:47 AM6/8/11
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On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Bruce D'Arcus <bda...@gmail.com> wrote:

...

> Alright, I added the start of a skeleton examples.md document, basic
> structure encoded in markdown, but using the github infrastructure to
> render it and do syntax-highlighting.
>
> <https://github.com/bdarcus/bibo-rdfa-examples/blob/master/index.md>

And per Dan's smart suggestion, have moved it to RDFa, and added a profile doc:

<https://github.com/bdarcus/bibo-rdfa-examples/blob/master/profile.html>

Bruce

Frederick Giasson

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Jun 9, 2011, 5:12:03 PM6/9/11
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Hi Bruce,

> And per Dan's smart suggestion, have moved it to RDFa, and added a profile doc:
>
> <https://github.com/bdarcus/bibo-rdfa-examples/blob/master/profile.html>

You removed it?

Fred

Bruce D'Arcus

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Jun 10, 2011, 3:11:07 PM6/10/11
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No; moved (since I started to add a profile doc). Sorry:

https://github.com/bdarcus/bibo-in-html

Bruce

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