Dearcommunity,
yet again I am troubling you with basic questions; unfortuntely the help document and the net search could not solve them.
Currently I am trying to set up a simple subtraction with advanced tags:
I subtract the current value minus the value from the memory tag into the derived tag (I run the expression every 5 minutes)
then I update the memory tag value to the current value tag using a link tag (every 5 min and 5 seconds)
Sometimes my calculation works but other times the memory tag is updated before the derived tag is executed; the executed tag is sometimes 10 seconds late.
Why is that? Can I set the order in which the tags are executed? I do not want to use a bigger time offset.
I could use the data logger but it just doesn't seem right to me that it doesnt the execute the tags at their specific time.
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Kepware User
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We use Kepware as a client that reads data, from the two DA servers, and then writes this data to the DeltaV OPC server. (We also write data from DeltaV back to these servers but that seems to work fine)
This is accomplished using linked tags in the Kepware advanced tags.
Thanks for the reply.
I can confirm that our client is using Asynchronous writes.
I am dong some testing on a spare application station (live system) and have found that the writes begin to fail fairly quickly.
The Application station has a 5K Scale up and I am currently testing 800 points.
I setup a control module with 800 input parameters. 200 Floats, 200 INT, 200 UINT and 200 BOOL
When enabling the 800 writes per second, i immediately started getting a scrolling list of failed writes.
If i remove the 200 floats and 200 uints, the system recovers and i no longer have any fails.
Does the 2000 writes per second come with an asterisk and it is data type dependent.
Or maybe it is "Up to" 2000 writes per second.
I'll do some research on the client connection duration.
I am hesitant to use OPC Mirror since that is what we used several years ago and found it to be fraught with issues. Perhaps newer versions are hardened, but our original experience soured us on it.
In the communication settings for Kepware, I reduced the Max items per write from 512 to 400 and increased the write timeout from 1000ms to 2500ms.
So far I am a little over 600K writes and 0 failures with all 800 points.
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